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Camarade_Tux

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...link?

Then you'll have to remove it as soon as you see it : it's a pirate mod.

I really doubt you can run XP on so little memory. OK, you can : you just need a proper swap file to compensate.

Anyway, what is advertized shows they missed something can run on 18.73MB RAM (not quoting) : why don't they go to 18.728MB ; such a precision makes me go like that -> :blink:

Drivers are also a big source of memory usage. Default ones and also 3rd party ones. For example Realtek drivers easily use 20MB which is already over their 18MB.

Linux with no graphic interface uses 30MB at least.

I know by personnal experience that ~115MB implies at least 60MB of memory to be used.

I'm trying to download a copy of it but I certainly won't install it, it really seems to be a lie.

And a 30MB commit in XP is unachievable in decent conditions. 60MB is. 80MB is doable while having a confortable OS. 100MB is easy.

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In order to test my just-released update downloader, I made a new test iso. Result was 120Mo, 5MB more than Windows Jacked OS, a difference around 4%.

I forgot to put WIHU so no software has been added and since my program only downloads critical updates for windows, IE was left untouched.

I had a 50MB commit. With softwares installed I get a bit more than 60MB.

As I wanted to know down to which memory usage I could go I disabled some services (including print spooler...) and got 40MB.

csrss+lsass use 5MB. explorer at least 8MB. you need at least two svchost and one services.exe : at least 18MB. Sum this and the absolute minimum is 30MB. This is really and *absolute* minimum.

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In order to test my just-released update downloader, I made a new test iso. Result was 120Mo, 5MB more than Windows Jacked OS, a difference around 4%.

I forgot to put WIHU so no software has been added and since my program only downloads critical updates for windows, IE was left untouched.

I had a 50MB commit. With softwares installed I get a bit more than 60MB.

As I wanted to know down to which memory usage I could go I disabled some services (including print spooler...) and got 40MB.

csrss+lsass use 5MB. explorer at least 8MB. you need at least two svchost and one services.exe : at least 18MB. Sum this and the absolute minimum is 30MB. This is really and *absolute* minimum.

Tux this is impressive. How did you do it? I have an oem xp disc I bought and not using. I would switch from 2k to xp on one puter with results like this.

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Camarade_Tux

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Tux this is impressive. How did you do it? I have an oem xp disc I bought and not using. I would switch from 2k to xp on one puter with results like this.

You don't need big applications and if you have the proper tools (a proper cd burner for instance) you don't need the one in explorer.

Hopefully explorer is modular so you can remove parts of it.

And get rid of windows media player as it installs tons of things everywhere (just look at the context menu for a mp3 file).

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Bugs Bunny

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I use hfslip plus a reg file with good results. The reg file disables unneeded services by default and does some other things (security and looks related).

With all the updates and extras on TC's list plus some extra ms fixes not in the list plus IE7 and wmp10 and a Silent installer for DotNet 1.1 + 2 I have a bit under 50Mbyte of RAM used by windows with nothing extra installed. With Antivirus (AVG) + Firewall (Comodo PF) + drivers 'bout 120MByte of RAM are used.

These are the services I disable with the Reg file. They are only disabled or set to manual and can be set to automatic if needed. 4=disabled 3=manual

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CiSvc]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ALG]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Browser]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ERSvc]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Nla]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\RemoteRegistry]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SharedAccess]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\srservice]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\TermService]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\seclogon]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\WebClient]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\wscsvc]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\wuauserv]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\WZCSVC]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Themes]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SSDPSRV]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\TrkWks]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LmHosts]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Schedule]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\BITS]
"Start"=dword:00000003
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Dnscache]
"Start"=dword:00000003
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\helpsvc]
"Start"=dword:00000003
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\PolicyAgent]
"Start"=dword:00000003
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SamSs]
"Start"=dword:00000003
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\winmgmt]
"Start"=dword:00000003
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\upnphost]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\mnmsrvc]
"Start"=dword:00000004
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\UPHClean]
"Start"=dword:00000004

I normaly use a fixed IP so I can disable the DHCP service also.

BTW here is my full reg file that I put in the HFSVCPACK folder.

XPSecure.reg

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Camarade_Tux

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Did you use nlite or hfslip or a combo of both.

Both : hfslip, then nlite and a few extras, hfslip wihu and driverpacks.

You may see the link in my signature. The beast is ready but I can't publish it because I have no time to provide support for it (hopefully I've only a few months left).

edit : read "Both : hfslip, then nlite and a few extras, wihu and driverpacks."

instead of "Both : hfslip, then nlite and a few extras, hfslip and driverpacks."

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AgiHammerklau

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Well, it sounds pretty strange, to HFslip an already nlited HFsource(ss) again.

I´m running W2K, create the source(ss) with HFSLIP and run nlite on it, afterwards.

What´s the advantage of running HFSLIP again ?

Most stuff is already reduced and integrated by HFSLIP, the rest is integrated (drivers), killed/ kept and set by nlite.

Agi

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dirtwarrior

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Well, it sounds pretty strange, to HFslip an already nlited HFsource(ss) again.

I´m running W2K, create the source(ss) with HFSLIP and run nlite on it, afterwards.

What´s the advantage of running HFSLIP again ?

Most stuff is already reduced and integrated by HFSLIP, the rest is integrated (drivers), killed/ kept and set by nlite.

Agi

I think he used hfslip as a slipstreamer. Lited it with nlite then ran his batch file.

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Camarade_Tux

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No I made a mistake when I wrote this : I meant wihu in place of the second hfslip.

In fact running hfslip after nlite is a very bad idea as it readds some components while being unlikely to put them properly back. You don't necessarily run in troubles but it's far from being clean.

Post edited thanks. :)

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