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Inspired by @D.Draker's success with getting newer Nvidia drivers to work with Windows Vista, I was wondering if it would be possible to get some newer AMD graphics drivers to work, say, the Radeon R4 98E4 Stoney Ridge and related cards that use the same driver. This has a 6.1 and a 6.3 section that is filled in of course, but at the very bottom, it has a blank 6.0 section. Given that is there, it can't be too much work to hack work it onto Vista, right? My AMD laptop that can run Vista is an Acer Aspire A315-21 with Radeon R4 Stoney Ridge 98E4 from 2019. You can find the graphics driver I use for it here: https://www.mediafire.com/file/os5w3p1fb3ali8o/Win7-Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-2020-Edition-20.4.2-May25.zip/file I know there is newer that still has the 6.0 section, but those invert the color in a game I play when the game is in full screen (non-full screen is fine) while these do not. It will be interesting to see if these can be leveraged to work on Vista. If so, it would open up the Vista compatibility door wide-open here. I should note the problems that plague Haswell+ and Ryzen do not happen here and I've recorded no problems from what I could gather in my test. If anyone testing Vista on this or related AMD Radeons like Stoney Ridge notices any problems I may have missed, please do post them here for me and other users. October 17th, 2022: BREAKING NEWS: We may be one step closer to getting newer AMD Radeon graphics drivers such as for Stoney Ridge working with Windows Vista under Extended Kernel. Please stay tuned for more information on this as it comes in. October 18th, 2022: BREAKING NEWS; A huge development has been reported! This just broke the Vista compatibility vault wide-opened! Unfortunately, it will be a bit before this is available to everybody. To learn more, go here: https://imgur.com/gallery/nGsYopn October 22nd, 2022: I'm refocusing this thread to just AMD Ryzen from here on out. I do not have one, so I won't be participating as much, if at all in this iteration of the thread. If you have a modern Ryzen and want to try to get its graphics driver to work with Vista, then be my guest. Keep in mind, Ryzen dos have issues with Vista. These are different from the Haswell+ issues and I believe are related to the USB drivers (feel free to correct if wrong). Here's my new thread linked to below.

Hi can I install windows vista on my ryzen system with a b550 motherboard??

I don't currently have screenshots, but Windows 98SE seems to give me errors about random things but especially rundll32, and this happens on login, setup, and just while performing tasks like booting up MS office. I know this behavior doesn't seem to appear on Intel PCs, and it happens on both Virtualbox, and VMware, any fix available for this?

Hey everyone. Is it possible to use Windows8.1 on ryzen 3000? Did anyone tried it? Someone told me that with windows 7 drivers its possible but i don't have ryzen system to test it on

[done! be my guest!] Hi, it's time to post my resume on my research on AMD-chipsets and boards. This will be a long post, split up in some mails, for the purpose of clarity and transparency. All of this is not "matter-of-fact", but my very personal opinion and experience, so: YMMV ------------------ In a nutshell: After all the years, with the appearance of the 870A chipset, AMD-boards, with the modern socket AM3+ appear on the screen for W98SE-User with a Bang! And we didn't see that coming... Depending on board and chipset, they have some drawbacks and advantages, but something can be said right now: There has never been better compatibility. Some work just right out of the box, and with a minimum of AddIn-cards, you get gaming-enabled boards. You can now go to the shop, and, by careful selection, buy a brand-new board, a brand-new CPU, install, and have fun! (and perhaps a NIC, if you are lazy, and definitely a used sound-card, as the necessary exception from the rule). This is WAY better than P35/P45 or similar Intel-Chipsets, and as a bonus on top, provides excellent Dual-Boot capability with Windows 10 (and XP, of course, but that goes without saying). All of this would not have been possible without the help and programming skills of RLoew, one way or the other, so Kudos to him!!! ------------------ I added some further mails: - one for each chipset tested (AMD 970, 990*, 870A, 890, 880G*, 770) (*not done yet, but will follow later) - one for miscallaenous hardware that was tested (to make this happen), and - one for the "Dual-GPU-stunt", which is of interest for people who want to Dual-boot with i.e. XP and W10, and want to put in some extra effort to have such a modern machine ready for some serious gaming, while they are at it. ------------------- What to think about, before trying this yourself: The socket AM3+ provides space for the modern FX- and Opteron-CPUs, capable, and cheap (and for legacy, use your old Phenom II or Athlon II, that would otherwise gather dust in the corner). Unfortunately, they have some drawbacks: Their single-thread performance cannot touch those of modern Intel CPUs, and to add insult to pain, they can only deliver their subpar speed with an enormous usage of power. Even though their idle-power usage is actually not really bad (and, if done right, still better that i.e. Intel Wolfdale or Yorkfield CPUs, like the latest Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad, and maybe even on par with the first generation of i3/i5/i7), these are not really machines for your everyday use, especially with the dual-GPU-stunt. Still, a machine with a good AMD 970 board, and some ATI x800 or NVidia GF 7600 GT, can still provide a good gaming experience on W98SE (and perhaps even XP), and provide an ok machine for browsing and such activities on W10 64bit. Believe me, it is still a much more performant combination than any Legacy-build. And regarding legacy hardware now slowly becoming expensive on ebay, and ageing, this may even be the cheapest solution, if you don't have the right - and *intact* - hardware lying around. And as a (perhaps secondary) machine built for gaming only, you can, via the dual-GPU-stunt, enjoy Full-HD-gaming in XP and W10, and, with some restrictions, on W98SE as well (kind of... more in the "normal" HD range...) IMHO: At the moment, these provide the best build for W98SE on "modern" PCs. Maybe this will change again some time later, when RLoews research on modern Intel-chipsets succeeds. But until then... ;-) -------------------- Restrictions, and problems (of which most can be circumvented by choosing the right hardware): On many boards, you will have difficult times - at least during installation, and definitely with KVM-switches - if they don't have two separate PS/2-ports. PCI-PS/2-port cards (of which i only know of one model) don't work at all on the boards tested by me. For W9*5* users, this means, either to have two PS/2-ports, or end of the show (for experience with W95 on such chipsets, better ask RLoew, as i don't use it, and equally I'm not using WME...). If you want sound, you need a compatible Soundcard, and a free and well-positioned PCI slot on that board. I always recommend Soundblaster Audigy 1 or 2 PCI. For LAN, boards with the RTL 8111E are common, and if you know how to, you can use them with the NDIS2-driver (aka DOS-driver). I always have problems with that, so, as there are always ample of free PCIe 1x slots on those boards, for my convenience, i install an RTL 8111B Gigabit NIC, which can be bought in shops, and has drivers for W9x. For NVidia-cards on 890 and AMD 9xxx chipsets, to avoid stuttering because of an incompatibility of the NVidia-Driver with those chipsets, you need a commercial patch by RLoew. It also includes the NVidia-Ram-Size Fix, so this gives you further options. You don't need this on 870A chipsets (and probably not on 880G chipsets). You don't need this patch for ATI-cards, like the x800, so, yes, AMD/ATI-fanboys can rejoyce... :-) Because USB2 on W98SE will only work (on AMD 9xx and 890 chipsets, and not hang your board on 870A) when you fiddle with the USB2-legacy-settings, you will have trouble with booting from USB-devices, which very often need legacy-compatibility. If you do that (as i.e. you don't want to work with DVD-drives), you will have to find an individual way around this. It always woked out for me in the end, but was tedious. -------------------- All of this may work with AM2, AM2+ or AM3 boards, if you have one of those lying around, provided they have the same chipsets. But don't bet on that, and, moreover, better don't spend money or much time on those - this has been tried, with unconvincing results. And, until further notice: The AMD 770/710 chipset, today also sold as "AMD 980", or "760G", is NOT fit for W98SE (even though they are tempting, because of their onboard-equipment looking like feature-heaven for W9x-users). You have been warned. -------------------- Why i did all this: 1. for the same reason old man (with too much time and money... kind of...) lay under old (nice) cars on their weekends 2. since the ASRock Dual Series, i had some Phenom II lying around, and i asked myself: Why the f*** can't i run an AMD CPU with W98SE AND W10 on the same machine? I can do this with Intel... heck... now... let's do this... -------------------- I hope all of this is useful for you - it was nice for me, but pretty expensive. Does anyone need an AMD 770 board right now? ... Cheers, Ragnar G.D.

Hello, Are there Windows XP graphics drivers available for the following AMD APU's? A4-6300 A4-7300 A6-6320K AMD Athlon 5350

It's snappy, but updating Windows is super slow, like a 386 and 486! Seems to be deadlocks in Windows Update code. It's working well with a PNY Optima 120 GB SSD, which appears to have a Silicon Motion controller. It's doing well, despite a single 4 GB stick. (I lost fundamental stability with a 2x4GB RAM kit, had to return it)