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You are forgetting:
1. The resolution (more pixels per inch on an e-book reader)
2. The (slightly) more powerful hardware needed for displaying, scrolling, downloading, etc (of ebooks). Which means it almost starts stepping into the zone of "runs on an OS" (however miniscule).
3. It isn't just about hardware - software is just as important to make an e-book reader worth using (witness people going ga-ga over OSes that are barely as functional as Windows, but offer a flashy UI). And the software can't be off-the-shelf - it needs to be custom developed for the device.
4. Economies of scale. (far more cheap photoframes are bought, than e-book readers)
5. A photoframe is pretty much just that, while the ebook reader market keeps having better designs, so standardisation and mass production is not done to that extent.
6. Niche. Not many people buy it, so proces aren't driven down as fast. (you see the value of a photo frame. you may or may not see the value of an ebook reader, which is a highly controversial topic, with people wowed by it but then dumping it for lack of practicability, and not matching a standard book, and moreover, barely 0.1% of the world's textual content is currently accessible through an ebook reader, which needs to increase. I won't buy such a device until it reaches critical mass - atleast half of the books published must be accessible, and I mean not just those from big publishers in the west.)
7. Pricing of e-books. Why would I bother to buy an e-book that actually gives me LESS functionality (in some ways) than a physical one, unless the price is very competitive at half or so?
8. Lastly, comfort. (the feel of a book in your hand, turning pages, reading it anywhere, no electricity required, still readable even in bright sunlight.....)
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Considering that I've verified that an MSP created on one machine works just fine across hundreds of machines, I'd say "sharing it to somewhere else" is not a cause for error. Provided it is tested well while being made, and you keep the software environment uniform when deploying it, it should install just fine.
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@hamohd
Chances are that there is some error message coming up and so setup is erroring out.
Have you followed Step 6 from the OptionA ?
Please do that, take note of the error dialog, and then you would know what to do. Or else we could help.
Also, are you sure you are using a volume licensed version (non-pirated?) that supports using MSPs ?
If you're using a retail edition, use Option B.
Hi mich, is this an upgrade by any chance? If Office 2003 is installed, you might need to uninstall it first, through scripts or manually. Does the install run fine when run manually? Also, have you tried this in a VM with nothing else installed?I set it to install all components except office groove. save the .MST and execute itThe install goes without errors but afterwards it seems only word, excel, outlook and powerpoint are installed though I've marked publisher, onenote, access, infopath, etc to be installed too..
@neuropass
Yes you can make Office install silently. Yes you can choose to install only word. And by "delete the other stuff, so it will be lighter" if you mean that you don't want to install anything else, thats possible. But if you mean that you want to reduce the size of the installer itself, so as to retain only files related to installing MS Word, then that isn't possible (as far as I know), maybe someone can find out how it can be done.
But I think one possible solution in your case is, to use the MS Word disc (MS Office is sold in different versions - editions that bundle a lot of apps, as well as individual apps in a standalone form). Atleast those companies with volume licensing can get access to individual apps. But don't expect very much size reduction, because MS-Office apps are quite small by themselves, but they all have dependencies on shared components that make up the majority of space occupied. In other words, MSO 2007 Std Edn may be 320 MB by itself, and Word 2007 might be 200 MB by itself.
Also you might want to take a look at this thread - http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=39016
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Hmm, I would like it to be automated though, because even if I login to my router remotely, I have no way of finding out whether the power is back (because the router is backed up by a much larger battery and never loses power).
That power circuit suggested by jaclaz does sound workable, but I worry about power surges which might kill the PC (common in my area), and also because it does bring in a few complications of its own as mentioned by others above. So I'm back to the table again!
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God forbid that this happen to anyone, but it eventually happens.
With the current controversy about nVidia graphics cards being prone to over-heating and dying, a quick reply poll among us should uncover how far it is true. The story is that laptop graphics chips (GeForce 8400 GS) started dying in large numbers, leading to a recall by OEMs and nVidia footing the bill. At this point, desktop chips based on G84 and G86 cores were found to be at fault as well, but because of generally better ventilation, they haven't quite died out in mass numbers yet. Then claims were made about G92 and G94 cores being at risk too, whether they were fabricated at 65nm or 55nm. The above may be real or just pure media scares. So..... lets find out if the situation is worse today than earlier, and lifespans are decreasing?
In my case, this has been my (personal) video card history:
1998 - Cirrus Logic, generic 512 KB Display Adapter - worked just fine until 2005, and probably would have still been in use if the mobo hadn't died and I did not throw away that dinosaur of a PC
2003 - GeForce 4 MX440 integrated into nForce2 MoBo, still in operation
2005 - GeForce 6100 integrated into nForce4 MoBo, still in operation
2006 - GeForce 7600GS, returned card because of overheating and artifacts in display
2007 - GeForce 7900GS, awesome card still in operation
2008 - GeForce 9800 GTX+ (G92b core, 55nm fab, this is controversial and is supposed to fail soon, as per news reports, but it may not be true)
So what's your graphics card's lifespan and when did it die?
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Thanks rendrag, but thats exactly the problem in this case. The PC/motherboard never does truly "lose power" because it only goes into sleep mode, and even then the UPS is supplying it with power 24 hours a day......because power failure on motherboards occurs if the motherboard loses power........Since the computer hasn't lost power, the Power Failure option won't kick in.
I might have to do it the way jaclaz is suggesting, it does seem workable. But then I'm lazy and wonder if there's an easier way to do it, through software or something?
The PowerChute software that comes with the APC UPS does not seem to offer any such functionality. So I then looked to see whether I could use Wake-On-LAN signals from my other desktop can solve this (the other desktop has a really huge battery to back it up, but its graphics card is power hungry so can't use it as download machine). But WOL only seems to work if the PC to be "woken up" is switched off or hibernated. The "sleeping" PC isn't able to be woken up, because as far as the network card knows, the PC is already "awake". Moreover, since I won't be at home, I need to send WOL signals over the Internet to my DSL router, which will forward the same to the sleeping PC, but WOL-over-Internet works very spottily if at all it works. And in any case, I have no way of knowing when power comes and goes if I'm not at home, plus WOL would again make this a manual way of doing it.
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Hi jaclaz,
You are right, the PC has an ATX power supply. I turn it back on manually through either pressing the on/off button of case, or by pressing the "Wake up" key on my keyboard (standard feature in no-name multimedia keyboards with 115 keys). The BIOS offers options to wake up by pressing any key on keyboard or by a mouse-click, but I've currently disabled that option, because I felt that people at home might accidentally wake up the PC when I actually want it to sleep. But I could enable that option if it can somehow automate the wakeup procedure when power comes back.....
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Ah, indeed.
I have always been dropping in and tracking the forum, but I usually don't log-in unless there's something useful to say.
And Zxian, I'm glad to see so many old-timers still around, and some who've come back after a long period of inactivity.
Once an MSFN'er, always one.
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Here's the situation.
I live in an area where the electricity supply is highly unpredictable. Power might blackout for only 2 minutes, or there might be a 7-hour powercut in a single day without any warning. So one of my home machines is supplied by an APC 650VA UPS (for power regulation and backup, with USB monitoring, pretty decent for home). The UPS is capable of giving backup power to this PC for 20 mins. I have configured 'Power Options' to turn off monitor in 2 mins, and to put the computer into 'Sleep' mode if its running on battery for more than 5 mins.
All of this has been fine so far, but lets say I want to call this PC my download machine (because of low power consumption). Now at this point, two concerns arise. One, to power off the PC in time in case of a powercut, which is taken care of by Windows' own Power Options. Two, the PC needs to 'sense' when the power (mains, AC power) is back, and turn on and get back to where it was.
That second concern is what is seeming quite complex right now. I can confirm that the APC UPS (link to specs underlined) pretty much works like a laptop battery, which means it can inform the OS when power is off and power is back. But if the PC is 'put to sleep' during a powercut, there is no OS sitting there to realize that the power is back! So I went looking in the BIOS, for a way to turn on the PC, but all it seems to offer is "Power State after power failure" with the options "Off, On, Last State". But this option is relevant only if I don't already have a UPS to manage the power situation (thank heavens, else the electricity issues here would have killed my PC long ago). I'm trying to automate this because these power failures happen all too often in a single day, and at daytime I am usually not at home to turn the PC on manually.
Therefore, that's where I'm stuck. I mean, powercut happens, PC goes into sleep mode. Power comes back, PC is still stuck in sleep mode. I'm looking for a way to somehow wake it up automatically when power is back. If you think there's a solution, please do post here, just about any suggestion is welcome. I'm hoping someone has an idea about this.
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This was a problem I was experiencing, and finally solved it, so posting it here for the benefit of others or for myself to look up if I experience it again.
My monitor supports the usual DPMS power management, and through Power Options, I had set it to show screensaver after 1 minute, and go to sleep (no display) after 2 minutes.
And this worked just fine, with cheap no-name mice connected through PS/2, USB, and even Microsoft's Optical Basic mouse.
But then I got myself an MS Wireless Optical Mouse (model number 2000), and the problem started - the screensaver just wouldn't come on, and the screen never switched off. I verified this multiple times by plugging in a wired and wireless mouse, and found that the problem is happening when the wireless mouse is connected (either by itself, or along with the wired one). The OS is Windows Vista SP1 64-bit edition.
I tried a bit of googling which made it clear that this wasn't happening to me alone. Apparently, MS IntelliPoint 6.30 drivers need to be installed for it to work properly. So what's the root cause?
Look in: 'Device Manager > Human Interface Devices' and by default, you'll find a generic device when the wireless mouse is connected, named HID-compliant consumer control device. When you install IntelliPoint, this device changes to HID Non-User Input Data Filter and the problem is solved. Until then, unnecessary signals keep the monitor awake due to perceived continuous input, and therefore the OS gets no "idle input" instructions to act upon; but once this driver is installed, the mouse can discard the junk signals and differentiate in favour of the actual input coming from you.
Now, separately installing one extra EXE, means one extra thing to keep track of when I re-format, so this wasn't a route I wanted to take. I extracted the IntelliPoint 6.30 installer using WinRAR, and separated the unnecessary setup and EXE files from the actual driver-related INF/CAT/SYS/DLL files. Then integrated these into the Vista driver store using vLite, and its all good now. I can simply plug the wireless mouse in and it works the way it should, without thinking about any further actions.
Hoping this helps.
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Thank you shilyro. Shall try and post back.
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Well, chose to not remove WinRM and Remote Registry.
But still same error.
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That would be the route you'd want to take.add the Autounattend and packages etc from my pre-SP1 and add them to the new DVDIt works, and is easy. I was glad that I did not even have to run WAIK again, it just worked out of the box.
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Hi brucevangeorge,
This app lets you 'record' the tweaks you select - X Setup Pro 9.0 - http://www.x-setup.net/
Or choose the tweaks you want from the registry tweaks topic - http://www.msfn.org/board/Registry-Tweaks-t27911.html
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One of the the things that were looked forward to in Vista SP1 and Server 2008, was the ease with which updates could be merged into the base OS. It was said that in Office 2007-style, you'd just have to drop-in the updates you want to install automatically, in an "Updates" folder on the installer DVD. It might not be preferred to updating the WIM, but is the simplest method in a time-crunch.
These are what I'd like to know:
Has the functionality of "Updates" folder from DVD, been implemented? (haven't seen such a folder on the integrated ISOs from technet)
Is any specific argument required to switch on this functionality in AutoUnattend.xml ? (or are the Updates picked up automatically, as promised?)
What should the folder be called, and where should it be placed? (simply Updates? or $Updates$ ? root of DVD? or inside $OEM$ ? )
At what stage/pass of setup are these updates installed, or are they copied and installed at first boot?
Which types of updates are supported? (*.msu, *.msi, *.cab ? )
If someone has any information at all about this, please post here, since googling hasn't turned up anything much related to this. Even little bits of news or URLs to more info would be much appreciated.
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Oh, that would probably be an ISO you downloaded.
As for the single-file exe, it is:
File size: 352,395,816 bytes
MD5: 7a958dd2bb1f4d80867c8d16eed9707bAlso, you can right-click for file-properties, and see Digital Signatures tab to verify.
SP3 is coming along nicely, and build 3244 finally feels like it is made for all editions & channels of XP.
EDIT: oops, kels has already posted while I was busy getting the checksum...
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You could look at this - http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Mode...915GL&s=478
or this - http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Mode...Combo&s=478
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Still waiting upon the direct drop-in folder of "Updates" to automatically install updates post-SP1.
And the other drop-in folder mentioned earlier (quoted below):
Came across this bit of info recently - I'm assuming it will be available in Vista SP1 as well, and if so, it finally solves the driver problem in a simple manner.Windows Server Longhorn Automatic Driver InjectionDuring WinPE the system looks for the directory named $WinPEDriver$ at the root of all visible drives given a drive letter of C or greater. If this directory exists, the module then adds this path to the list of paths that it maintains to search for driver packages. When this operation is complete, the module continues to scan the answer file, if present, for additional driver paths.
Because of this operation, drives that contain a $WinPEDriver$ directory in the root cause Setup to recursively search this directory for driver packages to be imported into the image during the WinPE phase. This includes hard drive partitions and removable media like floppy disk drives and flash drives. Type-27 hidden partitions are assigned a driver letter during the WinPE phase of Setup and are also searched.
LINK to source - HTML from google cache | or MSword file
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Or even better, just dont make any mention of the MSP in your autorun.inf (because it has no relevance by itself, except to autorun, and will fail when that is disabled).
Just place your MSP in the updates folder, run setup.exe - and voila! (the MSP gets automatically taken)
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Indeed would be helpful, but doing so at this late stage might not be of very much point.
If one doesn't already have the hotfixes in hand, he/she could just download the SP1 beta....
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Yes its possible.I really did want every single option installed instead of just defaults. Is there a way to do that?Either using option B (second post in this topic), where I say you can modify it accordingly for the other component products, the options are commented with double-slashes. I obtained the OptionIds from setup.xml files, in each component folder..
Or just use option A which is simple, and while creating your MSP, choose this option for all components - "run from my computer".
That could be because your office 2007 installer files are corrupted or some files missing. Use the original disc.i'm getting an error message:Setup could not find any available products to install. Please contact your system administrator
I'm getting the same problem, and after reading the forum, I'm still not sure what to do.... PLEASE HELP!!! I'm a writer with a deadline and my original files are in the new word format!
Or install office 2003 or officeXP, and use the compatibility pack, which lets you read & write to office 2007 file formats.
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Yes, that does it.I have the Professional version and want to install everything that one would normally install doing a "Full" install. Does leaving the OptionState line commented out do thisThat way you'll have the default items installed. (some items are NOT installed by default, so you might want to enable those, but if you just want the default set of items that get installed normally, then dont worry)
I dont have any official info regarding this, but I'd think it installs them all (in correct order though, so thats a saving grace).If the hotfixes release to replace the previous hotfixes, are both hotfixes will be install if I put them together in the Updates folder?Like Outlook Junk email Filter...are all hotfixes will be install or only the latest?
I wish that were possible...Can we decrease the size of Office 2007 by removing unwanted applications from it as we did with office XP and Office 2003.0 -
Yes.
That should be because retail & VLK fresh-install keys weren't supposed to work with build 3180 (and its timebombed?).
Wait for public betas.
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I would like a way to set pagefile silently please.
The old pagefileconfig.VBS & setting-registry-key, both seem to be deprecated in vista, and so its not directly usable (nor do I want to use those 2 methods).
What did seem to be recommended by MS, is this:
wmic computersystem where name="%ComputerName%" set AutomaticManagedPagefile=False
wmic pagefileset where name="%SystemDrive%\\pagefile.sys" set InitialSize=768,MaximumSize=768However, doing that still is somewhat pointless, because the first line results in a situation worse than before (not only C:, but all drive-letters end up with a pagefile.sys).
The second line does the needful, but not before the first line has been run!
Failing a way to set pagefile silently, is there a way to completely disable it instead? (i know the reasons why it should remain enabled)
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Vista unattended Guide
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I'm asking out of curiosity (no malice intended), but what makes you think that this guide's section on installing applications would be valid for WinVista's gold release but not for Vista SP1 ?