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  1. There is nothing wrong with the sp1(6001.1800).it works great for me , but i didnt integrate IE8 via Vlite ,i created my own install.wim with Dreamscene , IE8 integrated ,and some software such as Vista codecs ,and Nero installed ,it worked all right ,and i removed the SPeech support ,but office2007 sp1 installed and works all right , ,by the way i am running vista 32

    Never said there's anything wrong with SP1. What you did, I'm presuming, is a completely different way of doing it, ie. doing a Reverse Integration type install (where you install the OS first) but just to install stuff in it (Dreamscene, IE8, Nero, Vista Codecs etc.) and then sysprep/imagex to make a new .wim. What they wanted to do was integrate it directly (using vlite or manually with pkgmgr) to the original install.wim from MS and the issue was it wasn't getting installed (even though it integrated fine) when installing the OS. I haven't tried it personally so I don't know the specifics but my guess about that issue was in my previous post.

  2. Here is my configuration, it is not the best but it is still ok for most games :

    CPU : AMD Athlon 64 3000+

    RAM : 1gb DDR

    Video card : ATI Radeon 9600 128mb

    HD : 160gb

    Current OS : full XP SP2

    What do you think is the best solution for me? vlited Vista SP1 or nlited XP SP3?

    Thx / Merci

    Heh, I've got a nearly identical spec'd system as a mostly media computer. I'd personally use an nLited XP SP3 on it. Although 1GB Ram and a 9600 will work on Vista and provide Aero Glass etc., I think it's best to have at least 2GB for Vista to use.

    This config is a borderline sort of thing. While it may be sorta fine for a vLited Vista, it'll really be great with an nLited SP3. Gaming wise Vista and XP drivers may be nearly identical these days, but again you'll probably get better performance in that area too on XP SP3.

  3. the cab integrated fine with vlite too but when i tested with VMWare i still had IE7 lol

    Yeah, although I haven't tried integrating IE8, that behavior can happen.

    ie. If you try to integrate the Dreamscene .cab using pkgmgr into for example Vista Business, it will integrate with no issues, but, when you install the OS, it won't be there since the SKU does not support Dreamscene. It's probably not the exact same thing with IE8 but I expect something similar (some compatibility check) is going on.

  4. Thanks Arneh so the best bet is to go with the Standard Core? Cuz I see Standard Core and Core as options in the vLite when it asks for what OS to vLite...

    No, unless you intend to run it as a very stripped down server with no GUI, Core is not for you. Stick to the regular versions of S2008.

    Standard Core and Core? Are you sure you're reading that right?

    You should see something similar to Windows Longhorn SERVERSTANDARD and Windows Longhorn SERVERSTANDARDCORE. The regular version of S2008 Standard does not/should not have the "Core" word in it.

  5. well, I tried to install the core-only version of WS2008, using vLite and also without vLite. In both cases, I only get a blank DOS screen after the OS is installed and I have no idea how to proceed from there (ie.: how to install desktop?). So you may go and take your chances :)

    There is no desktop to install for the Core version. The Core version is meant to be exactly that, a no-GUI command prompt only OS for specific server roles:


  6. 1.full nllited xp cd uses less resources

    2. there is NO software to mod windows FLP

    are u happy now?

    Correct, there is no way to mod a WinFLP install prior to the install however there are plenty of guides on how to make a Windows install smaller after the install which would work for WinFLP. It's nothing compared to what you could do with nLite prior to an install but those guides are out there anyway.

    aviv00, WinFLP offers 5-6 or so simple but very large/important options during setup, a quick selection for what bits you want to install. WinFLP doesn't even include many of the "bloated" stuff that comes with a regular XP in the first place and you can use an unattend script with it.

    Granted, it has nowhere near the number of options of nLite (nLite is still the the better option for highly customized solutions) but it is much much smaller and less "bloated" than a regular XP install and has the full support of MS and you're guaranteed that nothing will break whereas with nLite you might remove something and lose functionality that you didn't mean to remove. Again, I'm *not* saying you shouldn't use nLite in any way (I still think it's a great app for highly customized solutions) but I'm sure many users would appreciate having that kind of option to customize during Windows setup however MS doesn't seem to think so for its versions of Windows aimed at the general population of Windows users.

  7. I'm not really here to debate which takes longer or shorter to install, as that doesn't really matter to me since both don't take a long time to install anyway. I'm just saying that the approach/customization that MS took for WinFLP is really nice and would perfectly fit Vista too but unfortunately they didn't include it in Vista as a "Customize Setup" option.

  8. i have WinFLP installed on a older laptop and the mininal install size is 685mb installed on hd.
    162 mb install on a full nlited xp :P

    Yea, nLite will allow you to have a smaller install, nothing surprising about that, however it's the approach to WinFLP that MS took that I really like.

    They based the product off XP Embedded, didn't add unnecessary bits without losing much if any functionality, gave an option during setup to select which bits to install and not to install, and used a Vista style image based setup/deployment. Unfortunately, there's really not much support for it, even from MS, since it's a very unique product aimed at a small population of users.

    It's a shame there's no "Vista Fundamentals" as that would be a perfect candidate for vLite.

  9. The problem with supporting WinFLP is also that there is no way to slipstream SP3 into it and there's no way to tell whether MS will make a new WinFLP ISO with SP3 integrated. And, the standalone SP3 update will be a unique version for WinFLP (ie. the regular SP3 .exe update since Build 3282 cannot be used with WinFLP anymore). So, even *if* there was support in nLite for WinFLP, the only way you can install SP3 to it is after you install the OS, and looking at what happened with Vista and SP1 when folks tried that with a vLited Vista RTM, I don't think it would go well. Nevertheless, WinFLP is in my opinion the best version of XP that MS has released and it really is unfortunate that they didn't target a larger audience with it.

  10. the same issue as always: it breaks the 'add components' option.

    and without that, you can't install Aero. which I really like.

    it seems there's a solution to integrate Aero in WS2008 RTM prior to installing it, but it's too complicated and it requires WAIK. That's a no-go for most people, including me.


    Well, here's how I like to look at it. Vista SP1 = S2008 in codebase. There really is no fundamental difference between them in the core. That could not be said for XP and S2003 since MS didn't merge the codebases of the two with a service pack. MS however used the same S2003 codebase for XP64 so in a way, VistaSP1/S2008 is the same thing as S2003x64/XPx64. So I don't see why many people are trying to use S2008 as a desktop unless they need to use some of the Server functions in S2008 that aren't available in Vista. If that's your reason for doing so, then it's perfectly understandable. But besides that, it's a bigger pain to get all the Vista stuff working in S2008 after a vLite than it is to just vLite a VSP1 ISO.

  11. Yes, integrating SP3 to an original XP disc will be just fine since it'll contain all the previous fixes of previous service packs. I've personally done it with an XP RTM disc (no sp's integrated) and integrated SP3 with no issues.

    You said you had an SP1a disc, not an XP RTM disc. So between the two, SP1a and an SP2 disc, I doubt it'll make much if any difference which one you use. If you have an original XP RTM disc with no sp's integrated, I'd personally using that.

  12. Off topic, but did you extract the contents of the Office 2007 SP1 and put those files in the Updates folder in the root of the Office 2007 disc, or did you just put the SP1 file itself in there? Putting the extracted contents (google for the specific files) worked for me. Still not happy that there's no true integration method, but better than nothing.

    Yea, you have to extract the contents of SP1, then place it in the Updates folder. Sticking the big .exe in won't work.

  13. "Windows Vista SP1 and Windows Server 2008 are not affected by any of today's bulletins. They're not affected because they are not yet available to the public." The bolded text is what worries me, is it included in SP1 or are we who run SP1 not affected because Microsoft didn't implement SP1 updates in their update utility yet?

    "They're not affected because they are not yet available to the public." is not a part of the quote from Tim Rains' statement. It was something CNET added themselves and did a pretty poor job at wording it in my opinion.

    Nevertheless, if you actually read the bulletins, you'll see that MS lists Vista SP1 and S2008 as Non-Affected software to those vulnerabilities.

    For example:


    Non-Affected Software

    Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (all editions)

    Windows Server 2008 (all editions)

    Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac


  14. Is it just me or is everyone with intergrated SP1 not seeing todays critical updates?

    Here is the link to it:

    Critical Updates

    That's because none of the updates for February affect SP1 or S2008.

    "Windows Vista SP1 and Windows Server 2008 are not affected by any of today's bulletins."
  15. Using the Automated Installation Kit (AIK) for Windows Vista SP1 and Windows Server 2008, will be able to slipstream into an vlite install?

    more info/download:


    The AIK will have updated SP1 WinPE images and other tools however MS have stated numerous times that SP1 cannot be slipstreamed and is in fact blocked from being slipped offline using the regular tools one might use to integrate hotfixes. As they've stated in their latest docs:

    "This "online" update method is the only supported method of updating images with SP1—you cannot install or uninstall SP1 to an existing image offline without booting into it. "

  16. Well, I have XP installed in my old machine in drive C: and will install Vista RTM in drive D: ; after install Vista RTM/SP1 and running vsp1cln, I will boot in XP and run ImageX/GImageX from it. It's correct ?

    Yes, all you need is 2 OS installs. One is the Vista RTM install which you'll be updating to SP1 and running vsp1cln in it and the other is the XP install which you'll use to capture/imagex the Vista install.

  17. 1. Depends on your system and hdd speed. It's a few hours work I'd say.

    2. Imagex will ignore and automatically not include pagefile, hibernation etc. when it starts capturing the wim.

    3. Yes, you should run vsp1cln before imagex while you're still in the Vista install and it should be fine for vLite use.

    4. Don't delete any files before imagex'ing it. That's what vLite is for.

    Almost correct, but a clarification on point 3: this should be done from another Vista installation (as should running imagex to create the install.wim).

    No, vsp1cln can be run from inside the SP1 Vista install. vsp1cln is both an online and offline tool meaning it can be run in the install or from another install as stated in the Vista SP1 deployment docs:

    "Typically, you should run Vsp1cln.exe if you want to reclaim this disk space after applying SP1 and if you will not need to uninstall SP1. You can use this file both online and offline, but you must have SP1 installed."

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