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Yeah SP1 take a long time to install...If I remember right mine took 1 to 1 1/2 hours to install. And the worst part was that I could not use my computer like you can with Windows Xps service packs

Got a download finally Did a total clean install installed drivers then SP1. Haven't had much time to play with it but just under 45 minutes to install! They better slow for the buying of the updated disk similar to what they did with the 64bit editions. They should make the disks free do to the fact they removed slipstreaming capability from it.

Now my question is How did you guys get SP1? I have looked around and can't seem to find a download anywhere. See I am hoping to reinstall Vista soon and want to have SP1 when I do it instead of later. Possibly Integrate it into my installation, but I rather not wait till mid-march to do it.

Awesome! is what came to my mind when I read the specs. It is defiantly a beast. I have read all the XP vs. Vista comments and a lot of them are very good reasons for their own opinion. The way I see it is that: -Your computer isn't going to be slow even with Vista -Eventually yeah you will probably need to go to Vista -Last, but not least it is your decision, no one is going to look down on you because you chose Xp over Vista or vice versa. My opinion I love Xp, and I love Vista! I bought Vista the first week it was out and found it to just as good as Xp if not better. Xp is a very very strong operating system, it will probably end up (in my opinion) like Windows 98. Either way you can't go wrong. Go with Xp if you want to then move to Vista when it is convenient for you. An operating system isn't forever it can always be changed. Have fun with it and make it the way you want it! Isn't that why you bought it?

I have had similar problems before with some of my games and it usually is easily fixed by running it as an administrator. Under the compatibility tab in properties I check the run as administrator option. That way it will always ask to run as an administrator. Hope this helps

Looks good! I would say go for the Asus P5B Deluxe. I did and I couldn't be happier, exept for the drivers for Windows Vista so far. As far as I know all of the drivers and utilities are still in beta but if you don't plan on going to Vista right away then the P5B Deluxe would be a good choice. Don't let the driver issue push you away, cause for betas I haven't had any problems with them yet except for the wireless drivers which I had some problems with. Oh, and it supports Intel's Quad Core processors for future upgrades. I have a P5B Deluxe (Wifi-AP Edition). But if you don't need the Wifi stuff then go with the P5B Deluxe Like it was said before the case is what you want. lol I'm using an old Dell XPS case that used to house a Pentium 2. Hopefully that will change within the next couple of months when I get a new one. I would suggest if you have a little extra cash to spend a bit more and buy the C2D E6400 that way you have a little extra power to run Vista. I have Windows Vista Home Premium, a P5B Deluxe (Wifi), 2 sticks of Corsair (512mb), and a C2D 6400, and Vista runs very well, wished I had gone with the C2D 6600 if I had had the money.

Okay, I'll have to do that when I get home tonight.

I thought I might tell you guys haw it all went. Well I got my stuff the other day. I had to do a few tweaking to my case. Never thought about new hardware and old case may not work. The problem was that the power botton cord and reset and all that is one plug well it didn't match the prongs on the motherboard, so when I went to turn it on nothing happened. So eventually I got it figured out. So I reinstalled Windows Xp Pro and it's running like a beast. But the boot time isn't as fast as I would have expected. The Windows Xp boot screen seems to take its time loading Windows. But as soon as that part is done it logs it withing a second or so. Also I haven't tried any higher, but I have so far overclocked it to 2.30Ghz. Thanks Everyone for your help this thing is awesome!

Thats kind of interesting Hoenig. What are your specs? Cause that doesn't seem quite right. Here Microsoft and the rest of the world is telling us that we are going to need a high end video card at least a 1.5 Ghz processor and 2 gigs of memory to run Vista smoothly and you can on an "out of date" computer.

Its classical. I could never see why clasical is so "liked." But thats my opinion.

Why would they want let us be able to easily change the ui? It would be just way to easy. But, I must disagree with you when you said it appears as if it had taken 5 min. Microsoft put lots of time and hard work into it. It is just to bad it takes up so much system resources. I would like to be able to create themes and stuff, but I don't have time to work with it enough, and I can't find a theme out there that I personally like. So I stick with Microsoft's themes. Basically thats what most people do. They are saticfied with the themes that Microsoft gives them.

I have always thought the more power your have the better. But i guess it depends on what a person is doing. I will definatly have to keep that in mind. I would have never thought that there was such a difference between power supplies.

Nakatomi makes a good point. Vista is made for 2 core while Xp wasn't. But as soon as microsoft seemed to be on the ball now Quad core chips are coming out, and if it takes another 5 years for microsoft to come out with a new windows version. Well, lets just say they will be lagging pretty far behind Apple, since they work pretty close to Intel.

Good thought Ripken. But I really didn't want a E6300. See I wanted to get a laptop with a Core 2 Duo and what not, but my parents really didn't want me to do that. So basically I upgraded my computer to what I wanted in a laptop. So ya. I think my dad's computer motherboard capacitor leaked. It still runs but it looks like something had leaked in the bottom of the case. Who knows. lol

The Gigabyte 965G DS3 Deluxe does I believe. Or Here Thoughs are all of Gigabytes Quad core boards.

Basically. I just can't figure out why u wouldn't want Unlimate. It is supposed to be best of all of the versions.

Well thank you everyone again. I have made my decision and trust me it was hard. Processor: Core 2 Duo E6400 ($230) Motherboard: ASUS P5B Deluxe ($185) Memory: Corsair 1 Gb (512 X 2) ($110) Video Card: Gigabyte 7300GS (256mb) ($65) Power Supply: CoolMax 400 watt ($50) So about a $650 system. I deflected from my "budget" a liitle on somethings, but I trust your guys knowledge.

Okay, I have decided on the Core2 Duo and now its between the DS3 and the Asus P5B Deluxe. I want to thank you all for your help and comments. Is there much of any reason to buy the DS3 just becasue it supports Quad-Cores? It has some other good features that I like but the P5B Looks to have more feature that sound more like what I want. Such as the Heat Pipe, Q-Connector, AI Nos, and If i want to experiment with some overclocking the Precision Tweaker. They sound like good features but will I use them? For the Video Card looks like I'm going to go with the ASUS GeForce 7300LE ASUS Geforce 7300LE The one review said that it could handle HL2 at 1280x1024 resolution with no problem, so I'm going to say that it should be able handle my type of gameing just fine. As for memory. A couple of reviews I read said that the P5B Deluxe doesn't handle "value" memory well. Is this something I need to be worry about when I order my memory? Sorry guys for all the questions and all. This will be my first build. So I want this to be right. you know.

So the E6400 and the DS3 combo is pretty popular. So is the 7300GT a pretty good card for moderate gaming and video? I have looked at the cheap video cards $30 to $50 and they are basically junk based on reviews and that. I'll finish my post later.

Thanks for the reply nitroshift. I'm hoping to get a few more opinions but if not no big deal.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't all the vista versions come out on 1 disk but you have to buy a serial number for the version that you want. So if you have Home Premium but wanted the features that business offers also you could buy a business key to unlock thoughs features that are special to the Business Edition.So now not only do you have the features of Business but also the features of Home Premium. So Basically in theory you won't need to downgrade at all because Microsoft has made it to where its a ladder as you go up from Home Basic to Ultimate for each version you go up you unlock more and more features. The point is that its not like xp where you can only have Xp home or Xp Pro or Xp media. With Vista you can have all of what comes with that version you bought and all the features that the lower versions have. I hope that makes sense.

Okay, I'm finally going to upgrade my computer from this slow Pentium 3 to something dual core. But here's the age old question what processor and motherboard should I buy. I was originally going to buy a Athlon X2 4400 (Socket 939) but then they now have the Socket AM2. So which on is better. Also there is the Core 2 Duo E6400. I'm going to use my computer for light gaming, watching and editing movies/picture, quite a bit of multi tasking. Basically I want something that is powerful but not over the top if that makes any sense. A few possible combinations: Processor: Athlon X2 4400 (Socket 939 or AM2) Motherboard: Don't want any thing over $150 but I'm flexible. Asus A8N SLI Premium (939) Like the thought of passive cooling for the chipset. ($150) Asus A8N SLI Deluxe (939) ($120) Asus M2N-SLI-Deluxe (AM2) Passive Cooling ($155) MSI K9N SLI Platinum (AM2) ($145) Gigabyte M55SLI-S4 (AM2) It's Vista Capable ($110) Memory: Basically something cheap I don't want to spend more than $150 for 512mb of memory. Video Card: This is where I'm having a lot of problems. I want something that will easily handle Vista Aero, but also be good when playing basic games. Nothing quite as intensive and Doom or Quake. More in the Lines of The age of Empires and games like that. And playing DVDs and what not. Rather not spend more than $50 to $70. Power Supply: Same Deal I don't want to spend $60 or more on a 500 watt power supply unless there a very good reason to. Processor: Core 2 Duo E6400 Motherboard: Don't want any thing over $150 but I'm flexible. ECS NFORCE 570 SLIT-Vista Capable ($100( Asus P5B It supports Core 2 Duo Extreme possible upgrade in future. ($155) Gigabyte 965P-DS3 ($160) Memory: Same as above. I do realize though that DDR2 is more expensive. Video Card: Same as Above Power Supply: Same as Above. I hope my guide lines aren't to narrow to do much with. I have about $600 to do this but can go to $700 if need be. Thanks for the Help

It booted! And I didn't have to use Hiren's Boot CD or nothing. When I opened the case I saw my problem my CD cable had come off. Which is kind of confusing to me. Why would a simple Cd drive not being connected cause so much problem? So who knows. After reattaching the CD drive I used 'Boot from last known working configuration' and it booted right up. Thanks for all of your guys help and time.

POW your probably right. I have done the same thing Windows Xp so that it can run pretty nicely on my pentium 2 machine. Unfortunatly my pentium 2 machince basicly out does my dad's Athlon Xp machine. It's pretty bad. And I have also gone through and disabled services removed extra stuff that has never been used.

Thanks guys for the posts I haven't tried any of them yet but I am going to in just a minute. Maybe I will put my burned version of Hiren's Boot CD.