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  1. I don't think I ever used the translation while running the program. I also PM'd Spoiled Brat who encountered the problem I describe. He even adds "Security Center" to the list of components who will be "ignored for removal" by nLite if not present at start. Unfortunately, the forum's "make over" ate his ini file.

    One more here, with ini file and more components.

  2. I'll try again to be clearer. This goes over the same source. The twist is the SP, which changes the source. Same scenario, explained more precisely;

    You have XP SP1, you start nLite, at that point probably it checks a default list of components (remember, 99% things you know, I don't). You load no preset because this is your 1st time. You tell nLite to use "integrate SP" and "Remove Components". AFTER nLite has integrated the selected SP, it shows you the list of components, "Blaster Removal Tool" is present, you can tick it and finish. In the saved ini file, "Blaster Removal tool" will appear (meaning it has been ticked for removal).

    Now you restart the same thing except you load "Last Session". nLite will show you that you have SP1, that you choosed to "integrate a SP" and to "Remove components", I suspect AT THAT POINT, it has already "detecte/reads/decided" that the components listed for removal in the ini files are "present or not" and thus "to be removed for real or ignored". ...but Blaster Removal Tool is NOT present yet. This results in the fact that AFTER you integrated the Service Pack, you are presented with the list of components to be removed, but "Blaster removal tool", altough being listed (like your 1st time), is now still unticked. So Same source, same actions, different results. Same for few languages.

    That's why I say that the presets should (if possible) be rechecked after the SP (or any pack) is integrated, just before presenting the list of components to be removed.

  3. Ponch, that languages-not-removed bug seems familiar to me, it was something about some langs being actually detected over a text entry which doesn't get removed unless something else happens, can't remember now, but it is an exception, not a rule... no other component should do that, and if it does let me know.

    The problem is not that the component is not rremoved, it's the box being unticked by nLite. When manually reticked (which defeats the concept of presets), component are removed.I think other components do that as well.

    Same scenario; take XP SP1, run nLte, integrate SP2, remove "Nachi &Blaster removal tool" (or whatever it was called), which is a component aded by SP2, the setting will be saved in lastsession.ini.

    But do it again, load XP SP1 and your presets, integrate SP2, the box is now unticked (!).

    This is because obviously, nLite needs to read the preset file to show that "you did integrate a Service Pack last time", but it also processes the whole file and doesn't find that component at the time in the source and so decides that it technically can't be removed.

    Maybe there's a way to recheck the "remove components" part of the presets after packs have been added?

  4. Hello,

    I can give you an annoying scenario.

    You sart nLite on XP SP2 (or less),

    you tell nlite to

    -add SP3

    -remove all languages (beside some you use)

    This is all fine. But in a next run, if you try tu use the saved presets, nLite will read that preset file, state that some languages are not present (because they are not added yet by the Service Pack that is included after nLite reads the preset file?) and those languages will appear unticked when they do stand in the preset file as "to be removed").

    I think there was also a bug with the unattended preset. nLite can't handle modified or added users from the saved presets.

    We've had people finding their entire desktop copied to the iso because they had put a driver on the "Desktop" (to be integrated by nLite).

    You need to make the "MAKE ISO" button bigger and flashing red or place it where the "Next" button is now or replace "Next" by "Finish without making ISO". Some people miss it, click Next and come here saying there is no ISO created.

    Few options you need to rephrase (numerous threads,if you want, just search on "disable enable", and my name).
    -SFC; let chose between "SFC enabled (default) and "SFC disabled". (Now it's "disable SFC:" "Enable (default)/Disable", which is confusing to some).
    -"Press Any Key"; from your comment down the screen, it is totally a guess if "Enable" means enable the option or enable the message. Even more when you check the two next options ("Remove Duplicate File"s and "Remove Old Bios information")
    I once suggested you replace the right part by "keep(default)/remove" instead of "enable(default)/disable"

    An other SFC cosmetic bug; when SFC is removed (thus on a modified source), the greyed out dropdown says "Enabled" instead of "Disabled".

    When using Unattended settings on XP Home, nLite forces you to create a user but still XP creates "owner", so there is no need for that additional user. Someone found a workaround here. And it was discussed here as well.

    Cheers.

  5. How long would it takes to install nLite on a machine ?

    nLite is a program that transform an original XP install source (read MS XP install CD) in a modified install source.

    Depending what you remove(things you are 100% sure you will really never need) and add (Windows updates and drivers for your machine so you don't spend time to install them post install).

    -Download and install nLite (the program) on a machine; 4 minutes

    -run nlite a first time (discover all parameters); 40 minutes

    -installing resulting XP set of files; 9 minutes.

    -redoing it for fun and tweaking... for some it's a life style.

    Have you checked if you're not beter off with imaging ? (installing once, taking an image of the install, re-applying the image would take very short time)

  6. Yes, but there is work involved before. It also depends if you mean "on a given machine" or on any machine, and if you are implying that unneeded (by you) parts of the OS might get lost in the process or not.

    Imaging comes as first obvious way, nLite and vLite come as second (check their forums here, be aware they are for personal use only). Hardware might play a role in your 5 minutes, and the way in which (from what media) you physically transfer the install files can impact your time as well.

  7. It looks like people have suggested a bit of everything but then face it, if they suggested everything and you rejected everything (or in my case, ignored it), what's left ?

    Ever had someone comming to you with a problem and saying "I've tried everything, what should I do now ?" Either he tried everything and there's nothing you can do for him or he hopes you've got something he has'nt tried yet but then he beter try it and not say "I'm telling you, I've tried EVERYTHING"..

    I tried to be polite and take it logically yet all I got was stupid and way off advice

    Obviously too stupid for your politness, we're not worth your time. There might come a day when you are able to amaze us with superior logical abilities of your own and solve your own -computer- problem. Rest assured some people on this board do have social difficulties, that's why we're here. :lol:

  8. Ponch ... not sure what OS you use since you have none listed

    I use XP at home and 7 at work. XP at home because that's what my crappy OEM computer is licensed for (does this still make sense on this forum?) and 7 at work because that's what the admins deployed (that PC originally came with Win8).

    But even in the context of a computer enthusiasts forum, I'll never claim any sentimental commitment to an Operating System.

    For anybody working in IT, for obvious reasons, XP is the past. Any machine sold with XP is more than 6 years old (apart of cheap netbooks).

    People don't upgrade their OS, they update their hardware, because they need more or because it fails. The new OS follows. Microsoft has millions employees. Many wrote XP back in the days, they can either say "thanks" or say "let's go on and make something else". What do you think they choose ? Why do you think they made Office XP when everybody was happy with 2000 or even 97? Then 2003, 2007, 2010, 2013. They need money and will do what they need or can to get it. But that's capitalism, not IT. And at this moment their is no real alternative.

    I'm still promoting XP to my father, only because it's easier for me to leave the thing as is than to reinstall and have to explain to him how things that were down left have moved down right. I'm all for XP, I've used it for years and it all seems "so normal and so right", but I'm not defending anything and I don't see it meaning more in few years than 98 today. I guess I'm not in love.

  9. nLite is not a lite version of Windows, it's a tool that allows you to remove things YOU are 100% sure you won't EVER need before installing. So the answer to your question is... "it depends what you remove". On a 80Gig HDD, the space gain will be less than 1%. It's also you yo know if it's worth it.

  10. They make XP updates for hundreds of millions users, they can't afford to say "if you have doubts whether this update is important to you or not, give us a call".

    Though they did call my sister last week to assist her installing updates (through remote control). :rolleyes: Fortunately she insisted she'd rather first ask me about it. They asked "but does your brother work for Microsoft?". :D

  11. It's not clear because 1 and 2 are not exclusive and so look like a list and not like options and it also looks like you are replying to an other thread, so when you come with "option#2 based on linked topic", we expect to see an option #2 in the linked topic... but there is none.

    Also you go on with "option#3 and something" when you mean "option#3 is that something".

    Then you go on with "option#2 without something" when 2 doesn't even mention that something at first.

    Mind you, you do warn us that the post will be confusing by starting it with "??"... I hope I'm clear. :angel

  12. @ submix8c, it might be clear to you what you are referring to as 1, 2, option#2 or option#3, but to us, it's quite cryptic.

    Sorry submix8c. I can usually follow your posts, but this time I'm afraid I agree with the above statement. When you say option#1 etc, that is an answer to what question? If this was directed as a response to the first post in this thread, then I guess it is in response to this --

    Submix8c asks and answers his own questions, not those of the OP, so he is is refering to his own references, then extrapolates to references he could have made but didn't.. If you read it five times, it all makes sense.

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