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Hey melissah
As You run a Mac Os, i think windows is not going to restart as it is in an Mac OS environment
Install this windows onto a normal pc,when the installation is done,make an image
and copy it onto your Mac, if your lucky it will boot or,
buy a PC
icy
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I see a lot of members having problems, as I used to have,
so i decided to make a small manual how I do it.
This is not the usual way to do it , but i am not usual, it just works fine for me
icy
PS if I make mistakes, tell me
If you can add good tips,tell me, i'll add them
MANUAL
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This manual consist of
- setting up the system to test a Nlited windows
Instead of using virtual machine software like WMWare Workstation or
Microsoft VM , i use Bootit Ng with an EMBR partition,
- Bootit Ng,
Info http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm*
Manual http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/bootitng.pdf.
when an EMBR partition is installed, then You get 16 active partitions,
ideal for setting up multiple Operating Systems and testing Nlite compilations
ATTENTION, do not use other partition software than Bootit Ng to PARTITION
An EMBR partition is NOT CPMPATIBLE with other partition software
PS You can use other software as long as You DO NOT PARTITION,
ex change drive letters
format
transform fat into ntfs or vice versa
etc
- How to set up Bootit Ng on the system
see bootit.pdf, install Bootit Ng for the first time
To work easely, you should have at least a HD with a capacity of 500 GB
in order no to be limited to 4 partitions,make a small EMBR 8MB partition ,
then you get 16 partitions minus 1 for the EMBR partition
If you have already a windows installed and the EMBR partition
does not install, then you got a problem ,the only solution is to backup
your data,reformat the primary partition ,install an EMBR partition
then install an OS
- How to use the partitions
*First partition gets the EMBR and Bootit Ng software
min capacity . 8MB, not GB
*Second partition,make a 30 a 50 GB partition
SET Third & Fourth partition up now,see below
WHEN done,delete this second partition
NOW in this empty space you can put up up to 13 OS
For Windows 2000 use 2GB
For XP use 3 GB
For Vista use 6 GB
goto - How to Set up the partitions
*Third partition serves
_for the pagefile ,pagefile.sys, of all windows
the pagefile can be set as follows:
Push Winkey & M
Rightclic mouse on "My Computer" icon
Push Proporties
Push Advanced
Push Performance Settings
Push Advanced
Push Change
Select drive to put the new pagefile.sys onto
Select Custom Size
Size is a multiple of 1023, 2046,3069,4092, i use 3069
Set Initial Size = Maximum Size
Set the size of the pagefile.sys on all the other visible drives to 0
Push ok 3 times until menu is closed
_for the tempory files of all windows,
the tempory files can be set as follows:
Push Winkey & M
Rightclic mouse on "My Computer" icon
Push Proporties
Push Advanced
Push Environment Variables
Push User Variables for Administrator
Change Variable Value
Push ok
Move sidebar User Variables co that you see Temp & Tmp
Change both
Push ok untill you leave the menu
_For the Temporary Internet Files of all Windows
Push Winkey & M
Rightclic mouse on "Internet Explorer" icon
Push Proporties
Push Settings
Push Move Folder
Choose drive
Push OK
_For the Temporary Directories used by all programs of all Windows
Most of the diskfragmentation is now localised onto this disk
How To defragment it: just use Bootit Ng to format this partition at bootup,
See bootit.pdf how to
PS If the partition for some reason doesn't match the driveletter,
you can change the driveletter with diskmgmt.msc ,program located in
the system32 directory
so SET UP a 10 a 15 GB Third partition
*Forth Partition ,takes all the rest as logical to create logical drives
See bootit.pdf how to
- Make 1 logical drive +- 30GB
All windows OS, be it Windows 2000,XP,Vista,Nlited or Vlited can use
99% of the programs installed on this logical drive.
There are four possibelities
- once a program is installed,it works for all windows
- idem , but you need to insert the registerykey
or validate via internet
- you can install it onto the same directory and overwrite it each time,
for every installed OS, it will work in all window OS
- You need to install in a separatedly directory for each OS,
This happens in less than 1% of the cases
Use the free space to make more logical drives to store data onto
- How to Set up the partitions
Bootmenu
push maintenance
push partition work
put cursor onto non assigned diskspace
fill in name , Bootit ??
fill in filesystem make first an 223 Bootit EMBRM partition,
fill in capacity , min capacity 8MB is ok
fill in clustersize, auto is ok, disk gets formatted
same procedure for second, but a Fat32 or NTFS partition,capacity 30 a 50 GB
same procedure for third, but a Fat32 or NTFS partition,capacity 10 a 15 GB
same procedure for fourth, but a logical partition,capacity all the rest
put cursor onto logical partition
same procedure as above to create first logical disk
capacity 30 a 40 GB to store programs
same procedure to create more logical disks
- How to install an OS See bootit.pdf
But !!! , how I do it
Bootmenu
push maintenance
push Bootmenu
select HD0 , 0 = first entry
do not fill the other 3 enties
push fill , select a partition that is formatted
push identity fill in a name
push Boot , make same selection as push fill
push reboot
select the partition = identity to install the OS
You get an error, no boot push a key
You get an message to put a boot cd
After inserting the cd ,push a key
computer restarts
Push a key,after the message push a key to boot from Cd displays
the cd boots into the setup of windows
If your OS installs correctly then insert the Bootit Ng cd
restart to restore the Bootit Ng bootmenu
THIS IS NECESSARY as windows after each install puts his own bootmenu
When back in the Ng bootmenu
push maintenance
push Bootmenu
select HD0 , 1 = second entry
push fill , select logical
select HD0 , 2 = third entry
push fill select the partition onto wich pagefile.sys & temp f1les have to come
push reboot ,
after rebooting all the programs & data stored onto te logical drives will
be acessible
the pagefile.sys & temp f1les can be moved to, see third partition above
PS If a partition for some reason doesn't match the driveletter,
you can change the driveletter with diskmgmt.msc ,program located in
the system32 directory
If your OS does not installs correctly then insert the Bootit Ng cd
restart to restore the Bootit Ng bootmenu
restart
push maintenance
push partition work
reformat
reboot into a working OS
remake a setup disk & install again
copy an original setupdisk into a directory source_ORG
If You use Windows Media Player 11,slipstream it first,
see http://www.boooggy.org/slipstreamer/ for inf0 and downloads
make a backup of this slipstreamed source as source_ORG_WMP11
Go to the I386 directory, identify your keyboard
(rightclick, proporties and see if correct),
copy your keyboard over KBDUS.DLL, so you will avoid problems
and you can delete all keyboards, yours will stay as KBDUS.DLL
make again a backup of this slipstreamed source in order
to use it again later as source_ORG_WMP11_Keyb
Copy one of the tree as source to use by Nlite
How I use Nlite
In order to operate Microsoft .NET Framework has to be installed,i use v 2.1
Start Nlite
Step 1
select Service packs
select Hotfixes , addons & Update packs
select components
select Unattended
select Options
select Bootable
Install
Service packs
Hotfixes & Update packs
addons if You like, i never install addons as most program, once installed,
do not need to be installed, see above *Forth Partition
components
delete Keyboards , see above KBDUS.DLL
delete all but your Language, if your is English, then delete all as
English Language always stays
delete Directories , they are useless in my opinion, but you can skip those
Unattended if you select this now,no need to install it each time
PS You can copy the serian directly into the first case ,
no need to do it manually
Options idem Unattended
This is the only step You can complete more then one operation
--Bootable iso
Now make an Bootable iso,Nlite creates automaticly WinLite.iso if
you do not change the name
Burn an iso , i use a rewritable DVD and use Ultraiso to burn it
copy Presets in the Nlite directory as Presets_0x into a separate directory
copy your source direcrory as source_0x into a separate directory
0x stands for 01 in step 1, 02 in step 2 etc
Restart windows,use a newly formatted partition to install ,see above how to
if windows does not install in step1, then split the tasks out,
Up to now i never got problems to install in step 1
- install NET Framework,directX, then sounddriver
test to see if driver correctly installed ,if not restart step 0x
- install ata & RAID drivers,test idem above
- install driver to access internet,test idem above
- install driver screen adaptor,test idem above
- install software to burn Cd,
I use the standalone Cheetah DVD Burner, so no need to install
restore Bootit menu, see above
reformat the partition in order to install and test the next step
If all this is corectly then goto next step, untill the end
if not retry step with less eleminations
Step 2
From step 2 on, we eleminate component one by one as it becomes
to difficult to get a working Nlited OS
select components & Bootable
in Applications
Delete all but Charmap,it does not work when copied
wordpad and others can be copied later in the system directory
and they work when copied
Make Bootable iso, see above
Step 2 always works for me , if everything is working, goto step 3
if not
- copy Presets_01 over presets in the Nlite directory
- copy source_01 over the source direcrory
there is no need to do it all over as step 1 was ok
Step 3
select components & Bootable
in Drivers
- do not delete sound controllers,sounddrivers will not install without
- do not delete SCSI/RAID otherwise you will have to push F6 at boot
to install sata & raid drivers
XP sp2, XP sp3, all OS younger then XP have all standard Sata & Raid
drivers included, so do not delete them in order to install your
specific drivers
If Gurgelmeyers unoficial SP5 is installed in Windows2000, then Sata & Raid
are also included
--delete as you wish,from now on it becomes a lot more difficult to get
an Nlited OS working
Make Bootable iso, see above --Bootable iso
if everything is working, goto next step
if not
- copy Presets_0(x-1) over presets in the Nlite directory
- copy source_0(x-1) over the source direcrory
there is no need to do it all over as step 0(x-1) was ok
Restart step
Step 4
select components & Bootable
in Hardware support do not delete
- Your CPU
- Floppy Support if you need this
- Logical Disk Manager = diskmgmt.msc , to change the driveletter
- Multiprocessor support if you have one
- Ports (COM & LTP) if you need serial or parallel ports
- Printer Support
next see above --delete as you wish
Step 5
select components & Bootable
in Multimedia do not delete if you want a minimum of multimedia
- Acm Core Codecs
- ActveX for streaming video
- DirectX , to install Direct X 9 for the sound card
- Intel Indeo codecs
- Windows Media Player
- Windows Media Player 6.4
next see above --delete as you wish
Step 6
select components & Bootable
in Network do not delete
- Internet Explorer if you need IE to surf
- TC/IP version 6 (Future TC/IP)
next see above --delete as you wish
Step 7
select components & Bootable
in Operating System do not delete if needed
- 16 Bit Support
- Command Line Tools
- File System Filter Manager
- Format Drive Support ?
- Help Engine needed for a lot of programs
- Internet Explorer Core if you need IE to surf
- Mdac , delete after services in step 8
- Visual basic 5 Runtime for Visual basic programs
- Visual basic 6 Runtime for Visual basic programs
- Visual basic Scripting Support for Windows
next see above --delete as you wish
Step 8 Operating System & Services
select components & Bootable
in Services I keep
- Beep Driver
- Protected Storage
I think all can be deleted in Services
in Operating System delete now Mdac if you do not need it
next see above --delete as you wish
Step 9 Tweaks
select tweaks & Bootable
make the tweaks
make a Bootable iso & install
fill in logical partition ,see *Forth Partition
fill in partion to store pagefile.sys & temp files,see *Third partition
make an image of the installed windows without drivers,
see How to make a compressed partition image in bootitng.pdf.
Give a name of 6 letters + 2 numbers as bootit works in a dos
environment, start with numer 00 and add 1 for each following
image of the same partition ,i store them onto a logical disk
Install all the drivers , make an image and store it
See which programs are working without installation,see *Forth Partition
Install what not works
Move all tempory files of programs, see *Third partition
Make an image and store it
Tips
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To put new drivers, restore image XX00.IMG ,
install drivers & software see above step 9
To install updates of software restore XX01.IMG the second image
install software see above step 9
to install new software restore the last image,in order
to get a clean windows back,install the soft,make an image
When Windows is corrupted or fragmented,restore the last image,
in order to get a clean windows back
From time to time format at bootup (Bootit Ng) the partition onto wich
pagefile.sys & temp files are stored as this partition will always be
the most fragmented, windows will restore pagefile.sys & temp files
without furter intervention.
Data disk or program disk can be defragmented
or backup all files & directories , format the disk and
restore all files & directories
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Hey 5eraph
I am sure you are a crack in using and making addons,
i only use topp programs like Nlite and others, i 'll give you a tip
visit *http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm*, read the manual *http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/bootitng.pdf*
You 'ii be surprised all it can do, espacially in testing Nlite.
i use it for years
icy
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hey fpsdf
use bootit ng,make an image and you can recover in less tan 5 minutes,
you can even make an hidden partition to boot off
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hey 5eraph
Probably from your point of vieuw you might be right,
but is unattended installing of programs better or easyer?
if You have all the same computers, then installing an image takes 2 or 3,
minutes,this is far less then un unattended install takes
Ie8 & others can be installed without backing up an older version
Why all the fuss of making installers as you can do it the simple & direct way
That's my point of vieuw,i respect yours.
icy
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Hey gneville
Fernando 1 is right when he says to start with good media.its very important
Windows is so complicated and Nlite is so good in eleminating parts of windows and
there are so many different computer hardware that is is nearly impossible to
get a satifying working Nlited windows the first times.
Try to eleminate a few parts at a time, if it works,elimanate a few more,
untill you get ik as you wish,
it can take you from a few days up to a few months, depending how good you are.
But once you got a good workong Nlited windows,it is easy to update it with the
same settings, as I do.
My iso is 163,116 MB , wmp11 incl,without addons & drivers,framework & directX,
all the programs i need working
icy
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I agree with you johnhc
I always use a untouched source to start
Thank You for your advice
icy
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Hey Ron475
Do not take out SCSI/Raid drivers & Sound Controllers in driver section
Do not take out Printer Support in Hardware section
The rest You have to try out as it changes from computer to computer
icy
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I just saw the Video
Video HowTo: Integrate addons with nLite
There was added
Firefox 5.68 Mb
Klite Codecs 6,2 Mb
Thunderbird 6,36 Mb
Winrar 1,1 Mb
Yahoo Messenger 10,07 Mb
total 29,42 Mb
At the end it was said :
The installation grew by 29,78 MB
It may be easy to integrate addons in the source,but what is the gain
Concerning Sata & Raid drivers,
those are standard integrated in xp SP2 & SP3,and all newer windows OS
If You install Gurgelmeyers unofficial Windows 2000 SP5 , then Sata & Raid drivers
are also integrated in Windows 2000,I installed it like this myself and
no need to push the F6 before installation.
I w' ont install addons or drivers if there are no other benefits than direct integration.
The biggest benefit of Nlite is eleminating the stuff You do not need and also
slimming down the OS, thank You Nuhi
icy
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I added an IE8 addon and guess what, it didn't work.
Can You tell me what's the difference in adding an addon or install it directly.
Up to now I am not convinced that there is no surplus in adding programs
as an addon, if you have a good Nlited windows, then you can start again in
minutes to install newer versions or even better program.
But who am i ? , mayby am i totally wrong.
icy
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I just made a new Nlited Windows XP with IE6 SP1 with the same Taskselection, only the updates changed,
Everything runs OK
I thank Nuhi again for the great job he has done
I made another with the same Taskselection,with IE8 as addon this was plenty of faults
My belief is that adding adding programs and drivers into an NLited Windows is not all that easy.
I use other methods than most of the Nlite Users .
I see that a lot of users got a lot of problems.
My method does work ,but i agree that , to get a working Nlited Windows it takes
a lot of time.
If I have enough feedback, i will write a manual
icy
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I made My third compilation in a year
XP Corporate Sp3
no drivers included, 163184640 bytes
works like a charm,
thank You Nuhi
icy
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hey doertsch
in Drivers, include Sound Controllers ,
when Nlited Windows is installed, then install ,directX vers9
Then use your cd with drivers of your motherbord
And your problem will be solved
installing those drivers with Nlite shall never work
icy
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Hey HydraHeaded
i obtaained a source of +- 155 Mb , mediaplayer 11 included
There are new updates out, so i have to redo mine one off these days
if you take your time and work hard, you will get a source under 200 Mb
icy
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look for Super Language Pack for XP SP3 on the net
icy
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My opinion is that Nlite is easy to use,but the interaction of Windows with the hardware can give a lot of
failures because drivers & OS parts are deleted after slimming down.
I always make images , so afterwards it only takes a few minutes to start over or to install a fresh copy.
i never integrate drivers or software, it is much easier this way.integrating those is not worth it,to much
problems and work to integrate
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The iso of my last Nlited XP takes 155.385 MB and works like a charm.
icy
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hey F_O_XXX
i used those mentioned at http://users.telenet.be/tc76/winup/_winxpsp3.html and had no problems ever
icy
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Hey
I' ve been using ME lite for years , but after years my ME became obsolete because many new programs
didn't run anymore onto this OS .
Each time I tried Windows2000 i was disghusted about this s*** , especially the administrator s***.
I was even more disghusted about XP.
About 8 monys ago i finally decided to go with Windows2000, i tried out hslip with Gurglemeyers SP5,
and also Nlite , after many tests i decuded to go for Nlite and finally after some time and a lot of swetting
i go a small Nlited Windows2000 that performed very well untill now.
A few weeks ago i started to nlite an XP SP and now i 've got a small ,155,8 Mb Nlited XP wit mediaplayer 11
installed,this works like acharm up to now, and it was even more swetting.
There are a few bugs in Nlite:
- when i nlited all in one piece i got runtime errors
- when i deleted keyboards, i was not able to install my keyboard, so finally i copiead my keyboard
over the US one and the problem was solved.
In the beginning I was very sceptic about Nlite, but now that i have experiance i say that Nlite is a
wonderfull program to slim down Windows to my needs and i thank Nuhi for this great work he has done.
I think also that there are so many different hardware windows is running onto that a compilation that
works onto one windows,probably will not work onto another computer,so there will always be a lot of
swetting to obain the desired results.
My wish is to remove al the administrator and logon schit like in the old days of tandy,trs 80 and apple,
Thanh You very much again Nuhi
icy
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Use bootitng , i use it for years, up to 16 primary partitions and more but not at the same time
it is very small and you will be astonished what it can, try it and forget about all the rest,
see their site for more information
icy
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Oh i forgot to mention
I you want to add support for your language you
can find Super Language Pack for XP SP3 onto the net.
it consist of a lot off languages in exe format,
so I think you can install them easely
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copy your keyboard over KBDUS.DLL in the directory of your final source
start Nlite and simply make an iso, burn it and install it
I have remarked that there could possibbly be a bug in Nlite as
I could nor install my keyboard also
icy
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Hey Guys
Scripten
Windows installer
can the be put in hotfixes or better installed separatedly ?
are there other items like this ?
Thank You for answering
icy
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Hey Guys
I also took out
-Windows Media Player
-Windows Media Player 6.4
in Multimedia
I had to install DirextX 9.c in order to install K-lite codexes
Up to now everything works Ok and installs
Uninstalling Help Engine gave me problem to install some programs,
so I put it back
Concerning DirextX 9.c in , is there a posibility to take out most of the bloat,
because i'm sure 80% of it is useless ?
Can someone give me some hints ?
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I' ve been looking around and found this
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\exefile\DefaultIcon]
@="%1"
i tried it , rebooted, but didn't work
then i changed the icons and guess what, it worked, problem solved
Ps for testing purposes i advice You to use Booitng, very small program,
up to 16 primairy partitions to chose from,format partitions before booting etc
You can even format USB drives that are not formattable the normal way
iocy
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Integration of Intel's SATA AHCI and RAID drivers
in nLite
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Hey Fernando 1
I followed your instructions and it worked the first time
thank You very much for this
icy