yes... i agree with you there i've never liked nero and it's such a big program..(like internet explorer...it takes up twice the amount of space as firefox, and does the same job ) ...anyway, everytime i want to do anything in nero ,i have to go through the help and search for the instruction...half an hour later.."arr ,so that's how i do it". with pardius (i can't remember what it's called...i know it's not pegasis...it has a d in it somewhere.....as you can see i havn't taken much notice of the name, even though i use it all the time ) it's so simple and easy to figure out ,i've never had to read the instruction...when i get home i'll have a look on my computer and tell you the name.