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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hello kuja killer, I did not mean to offend you by describing your PayPal-fight as stubborn. There simply was little sense in repeatedly - like Sisyphus - rolling a huge stone (e-mail option) up a hill only to have it roll back down again ("slide the mouse"). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You asked: What is "tabula rasa" ? Tabula rasa is Latin for “blank slate" This means: 1. A mind not yet affected by experiences, impressions, etc. the mind in its uninformed original state (in the philosophy of Locke) 2. Something new, fresh, unmarked or uninfluenced. Clean slate: anything existing undisturbed in its original pure state,an opportunity for a fresh start. "Tabula Rasa Installation" of NM28: A new,fresh,unmarked or uninfluenced “blank slate" installation of NM28, i.e. no modifications, personal settings,add-ons,extensions,host file,DNS filtering etc. or anything else that could interfere with PayPal. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hello kuja killer, You asked: "but why can i NEVER get past this horrible "slide the mouse" You may have answered your question yourself: " i've always done the email option every time for years and years" Internet security is very dynamic - what worked for years in the past must not necessarily work in the here and now. E-mail as a sort of 2-factor authentication is dubious. Consequently PayPal may have ditched it. Though it is pure speculation - you may have confused the PayPal security system with your stubborn insistence on the e-mail option. Since e-mail is insecure try the phone option - after tabula rasa installation of the latest NM28 (maybe with a different user agent). -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hello kuja killer, It is about 2-factor authentication with two different devices. When you receive an e-mail it can be hacked or faked. In most cases e-mails are insecure,especially when you get the PayPal e-mail on the same PC you are signing in your PayPal account. You said: " i've never once in my life done the phone option because i dont have a cell phone with text messaging" I neither use a cell phone with text messaging, just a simple tried and trusted landline. A portable phone should work in the same way. After passing the hCaptcha challenge PayPal sends as the next step the 4-digit number to my PC and then I get the phone call from PayPal and then I type the 4-digit number into my phone like when typing a phone number. And that's it and it works. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hello kuja killer, You said: "THIS time it made a "call you or email you code to finish logging in" - i selected email" A few minutes ago I visited my PayPal account. To get there I had to prove I'm human and not a bot by solving a hCaptcha challenge (had to click on animals like cats). Next I got a phone call and had to type the 4-digit number they had send me into my phone - and finally had access to my PayPal account. May I ask you why you did not select the phone call ? Perhaps the phone call works ? -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hello kuja killer, You said: "I did already is what im saying, my only guess why it would work for you apparently is it's probably looking at our IP addresses... germany for you... united states for me.. and that it's not being as strict for other countries." May I quote myself from a previous post: " I had exactly the same problems you described with the versions of St52 and NM28 when trying to sign in my PayPal account - it did not work anymore. After completely erasing NM28 (git-20250809) and replacing it with the latest NM28 version (see above) with a new profile without personal settings, add-ons and extensions or any other modifications, the access to my PayPal account finally worked again." You see, NM28 (https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod-sse.7z) did not work for me and it was not an IP address problem. Tabula rasa plus the latest NM28 did the trick. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Re: St52 www.paypal.com https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250823-3219d2d-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod-ia32.7z -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.paypal.com/de/home/ Hello RoyTam1, Please let me bring to your attention that visiting the above URL with the latest ST52 gives the following message: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the script continue. Script: https://www.gstatic.com/recapt…0EWWbt2I_ULP0/recaptcha__de.js:692 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Web Console says: Content Security Policy: Ignoring “'unsafe-inline'” within script-src: nonce-source or hash-source specified (unknown) An iframe which has both allow-scripts and allow-same-origin for its sandbox attribute can remove its sandboxing. home Ignoring unsupported entryTypes: largest-contentful-paint. datadog-b1cfe729.js:7:26127 Ignoring unsupported entryTypes: first-input. datadog-b1cfe729.js:7:26127 Ignoring unsupported entryTypes: layout-shift. datadog-b1cfe729.js:7:26127 Ignoring unsupported entryTypes: event. datadog-b1cfe729.js:7:26127 Ignoring unsupported entryTypes: longtask, paint. datadog-b1cfe729.js:7:26285 No valid entryTypes; aborting registration. datadog-b1cfe729.js:7:26285 Content Security Policy: Ignoring “'unsafe-inline'” within script-src: ‘strict-dynamic’ specified (unknown) Content Security Policy: Ignoring “https:” within script-src: ‘strict-dynamic’ specified (unknown) Content Security Policy: Ignoring “http:” within script-src: ‘strict-dynamic’ specified (unknown) Ignoring unsupported entryTypes: longtask. recaptcha__de.js:260:21 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it possible to make St52 also work with PayPal again because NM28 works with PayPal ? -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hello kuja killer, Please use the search function of XP and search for "moon". Then erase (with a security tool like ERASER.exe) everything that has to do with NM28. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hello kuja killer, You write: "Still didnt work for me. I deleted the whole profile folder for the New Moon 28 latest version..." Use the search function of your OS and radically erase all PM28 files (do not forget to backup your bookmarks etc.). Then make a complete new intallation as if NM28 had never been installed on your XP. With this "virgin" unadultarated (no modifications by you) NM28 try the PayPal sign-in. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
NM 28 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod-sse.7z St52 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250823-3219d2d-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod-ia32.7z ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: PayPal sign-in Hello kuja killer, I had exactly the same problems you described with the versions of St52 and NM28 when trying to sign in my PayPal account - it did not work anymore. After completely erasing NM28 (git-20250809) and replacing it with the latest NM28 version (see above) with a new profile without personal settings, add-ons and extensions or any other modifications, the access to my PayPal account finally worked again. But that same procedure which worked for NM28 did not work for St52 - neither St52 (git-20250809) nor the latest above version of St52. When trying to sign in my PayPal account I get the following message: Please enable JS and disable any ad blocker As a consequence I additionally disabled hosts file and DNS server ad blocking (NM28 gave no problems in this respect). Result: Please enable JS and disable any ad blocker Are there any ideas why the latest versions of NM28 and St52 work so differently with the PayPal sign-in ? -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hello roytam1, Please notice that the installation of IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250315-3219d2d-uxp-f428ae64da-xpmod-ia32.7z installs the same ST52 version as IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250308-3219d2d-uxp-8a35744175-xpmod-ia32.7z This means: 2025-03-15 = 2025-03-08 -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
https://www.auf1.tv 404 [GET] "/_nuxt/builds/meta/2aa240db-878f-4a11-b529-66f04d78c3db.json": 404 Not Found --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello modnar and AstroSkipper, Thank you very much for your feed back ! Extensive testing reveals that the probable culprit is the hosts file (merged file). Why only https://www.auf1.tv gave that strange error message (other websites no problems in that respect) remains a mystery. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250222-d849524bd-uxp-e43876ec84-xpmod-sse.7z ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ When visiting the following popular website with the latest version of NM28 (installation out of the box - no modifications,clean profile), https://www.auf1.tv NM28 gives this error message: 404 [GET] "/_nuxt/builds/meta/2aa240db-878f-4a11-b529-66f04d78c3db.json": 404 Not Found ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Web Console [nuxt] Error fetching app manifest. FetchError: [GET] "/_nuxt/builds/meta/e2655b30-996e-4ba8-91ba-ba21125ab1f1.json": 404 Not Found Stack trace: FY@https://www.auf1.tv/_nuxt/BtJJzr4I.js:19:20649 $Y@https://www.auf1.tv/_nuxt/BtJJzr4I.js:19:21143 l@https://www.auf1.tv/_nuxt/BtJJzr4I.js:19:23481 n@https://www.auf1.tv/_nuxt/BtJJzr4I.js:19:25661 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The latest version of St52 shows the same error message. Can someone confirm this problem ? Can this problem be fixed ? -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Asp said: "Problem with DuckDuckGo for a while now, and update to the latest New Moon 2024-10-24 did not help. I can enter a search term in DDG's search box and get a page of results. But every link gives me a "400 Bad Request" page." No problems here with DDG. Latest NM28 works fine with DDG. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hello AstroSkipper, Here are my screenshots of outlook.live.com with NM28 and St52 (latest releases). Since I don't have an M$ account this is the end of the line. Obviously St52 does not work with M$ Outlook. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
anton12 replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
UCyborg said: "Another website making playback of videos difficult. https://www.dw.com/en/rammstein-allegations-spotlight-concert-safety-for-women/a-65846744 Among the browsers at hand, only Thorium 117 plays it here. No idea about the actual required minimum versions." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can confirm this for the latest versions of NM28 and St52.