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Thanks to everyone for their browser suggestions. As superliew noted <above>, Mozilla has given Firefox ESR v115.x (the legacy version for Win 7 and 8.1) another last-minute reprieve and decided to extend support for this browser until March 2026 (see the official Firefox ESR release calendar at https://whattrainisitnow.com/release/?version=esr) so I'll be recommending my acquaintance stay with Firefox ESR v115.x, assuming uBlock Origin and other popular browser extensions continue to work with the FF v115.x branch for the next 6 months. Unfortunately, I haven’t seen any similar announcements about an extension for Mozilla’s Thunderbird ESR v115.x mail client for Win 7 and 8.1. AFAIK Thunderbird ESR v115.18.0 (rel. 24-Dec-2024) is still the final release for Thunderbird ESR 115. --------------- Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.6218 * Firefox v142.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.25070.5-1.1.25070.4 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.3.8.212-140.0.5364 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * MS Outlook 2019

Can anyone suggest a secure browser and email client for an acquaintance who has a "plain vanilla" 64-bit Windows 8.1 machine? I am aware that Mozilla is ending support for the legacy FF ESR v115.x browser for Win 7 / Win 8.x in Sep 2025 and that FF ESR v115.27.0 (rel. 19-Aug-2025) will be the last FF browser released by Mozilla for these older OSs. I recommended they try r3dfox (a fork of modern Firefox) or Supermium (a fork of modern Chrome) but would appreciate knowing if someone has another suggestion for a supported browser that still runs on a Win 8.1 OS. I also recommended Thunderbird ESR for an email client, but I have no idea if Mozilla as made any similar announcements about dropping support for Thunderbird in the near future for Win 7 / Win 8.x OSs, or if there are other email clients that still support Win 8.1. ----------- Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.6218 * Firefox v142.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.25070.5-1.1.25070.4 * Malwarebytes Premium v5.3.6.205-138.0.5346 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 * MS Outlook 2019

Hi WinClient5270: Just an FYI that Malwarebytes announced today that Malwarebytes v3.5.1 (the legacy edition for Win XP and Vista) has officially reached end-of-life. This EOL is effective immediately and there will be no further malware definition updates released for this legacy product. See employee jtodd234’s 08-Aug-2024 post in anon74’s Malwarebytes 3.5.1 not updating definitions… again in the Malwarebytes forum for more information.

Just a reminder that today (22-May-2024) is supposed to be the official EOL for all legacy Norton Security v22.15.x products for Win XP and Vista. I checked the Norton Security | Norton Internet Security | Norton AntiVirus board today and didn't see any new topics about this EOL, but if Norton follows through and stops pushing out malware definition updates it could be a week or so before v22.15.x users start seeing pop-up warnings in their system tray about out-of-date protection files.

NortonLifeLock has announced that they will stop supporting Norton Security v22.15.x products on Vista and other older OSs that do not support SHA-2 code signing as of 22-May-2024. See employee Gayathri_R's 01-Mar-2024 announcement End-of-Life announcement for Norton security software on Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 (SP0) for more information. Note that Win 7 SP0 is Win 7 without Service Pack 1. NortonLifeLock threatened to end support for Norton Security v22.15.x a few years ago and reversed their decision after customers complained but I think they intend to stick to the 22-May-2024 end-of-life date this time.

Hi trancer03: The GitHub home page for Dism++ at https://github.com/Chuyu-Team/Dism-Multi-language is currently offering v10.1.1002.2 (rel. 26-Mar-2023). I can't tell you if that new version posted yesterday still runs correctly on Vista machines but you might find some helpful hints in SIW2's 02-Dec-2021 instructions <here> in the VistaForums for using the previous v10.1.1002.1 of this tool. SIW2 suggested that you only apply ~ 30 updates at one time with Dism++, re-boot, apply the next 30 updates, and proceed this way until all available updates have been installed.

Could someone confirm that the legacy Avast v18.8 antivirus products for Win XP and Vista (available for download from the July 2018 Avast announcement End of Support for Windows XP/Vista) are still getting regular virus definition updates? WinClient5270 recently updated their original post in Last Versions of Software for Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 (most of the the antivirus programs listed there are also compatible with Win XP SP3) that would indicate that legacy Avast / AVG v18.8 products are still receiving virus definition updates, but I came across a recent post <here> in the AskWoody forum from a Win XP SP3 user who believes that their Avast Free Antivirus v18.8 is no longer working and is looking for a replacement. I believe they'd prefer to stay with Avast Free Antivirus if a clean reinstall would fix their problem, but I don't want to suggest this if virus definition updates for this legacy product have stopped.

Hi AndrewSM36: Does Webroot Secure Anywhere v9.0.31.84 require any modification to a "plain vanilla" Vista SP2 OS patched to end of support on 11-Apr-2017 (i.e., does it run on OS Build 6.0.6002.x)? Your 25-Mar-2022 post in Best Windows Vista Anti-Virus regarding v9.0.29.62 states "i installed the sha2 updates, but i havent installed the extended kernel", so I'm guessing you installed the Windows Server 2008 updates KB4493730 (April 2019 Service Stack Update) and KB4474419 (Sept 2019 SHA-2 Code Signing Support) at some point in the past and currently have OS Build 6.0.6003.x.

Hi Tripredacus: That can't be correct, because the image below shows an old notification email I received on 19-Jan-2020 that was automatically sent to my @live.ca email address. As I stated <above>, my email notifications from MSFN to this @live.ca email address stopped in Sep 2020 and there was nothing I could do to get them re-started (e.g., unsubscribing and then re-subscribing to threads I wanted to follow didn't work) so I had to change the email address in my MSFN account settings to an alternate email address provided by my ISP to get my email notifications working again. Now I can't change back to this @live.ca email address because the validation email to confirm this is a legitimate email address never arrives. I've checked everywhere I can think, including my Blocked Senders list on Outlook.com, and can't find any reason why emails sent by MSFN to this @live.ca address would be blocked on my end. EDIT: If I resend my confirmation email the message is "Oops! Something went wrong, Please try again". Doesn't that imply that the problem is on your end? -------------- 64-bit Win 10 Pro v21H2 build 19044.1889 * Firefox v104.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.2205.7-1.1.19500.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.5.13.208-1.0.1740 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.6867 * MS Outlook 2019 v2207 (Build 15427.20210) Dell Inspiron 15 5584, Intel i5-8265U CPU, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB Toshiba KBG40ZNS256G NVMe SSD, Intel UHD Graphics 620

I am currently using the email address provided by my ISP in my MSFN account and would like to change it to the free email address provided by Microsoft (@live.ca) but I can't because the validation email to confirm my new email address never arrives in my MS Outlook 2019 inbox. I waited for about 20 min and tried re-sending the validation email but got an error stating "Oops! Something went wrong, Please try again". I have confirmed that the validation e-mails do not go my Junk Email folder, that msfn@msfn.org is in my Safe Senders list, and that no email address or domain associated with MSFN is in my Blocked Senders list. In order to sign into this forum again I had to change my email address back to the address provided by my ISP, and the validation email arrived as expected. I don't know if it's relevant, but when I originally registered on MSFN back in Feb 2019 I used that same Microsoft Outlook email address (@live.ca). In Sep 2020 I stopped receiving e-mail notifications when new replies were posted in topics that I was subscribed to, and changing my email address in my MSFN account settings to the alternate email address provided by my ISP got my email notifications working again. I first tried changing back to my free Microsoft Outlook email address in Mar 2021 but had the same problem described above where the validation email sent to that @live.ca email account never arrived. As of now I'm not sure if MSFN does not allow the use of any Microsoft (Hotmail/Outlook/Live) email address, or if I'm having problems because I tried to switch back to an @live.ca email address I had used previously to register on the MSFN forum (e.g., my Microsoft email address is on a list of previously used emails that are banned to prevent anyone from creating more than one MSFN account with the same email address). -------------- 64-bit Win 10 Pro v21H2 build 19044.1889 * Firefox v103.0.2 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.2205.7-1.1.19500.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.5.13.208-1.0.1740 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.6867 * MS Outlook 2019 v2207 (Build 15427.20210) Dell Inspiron 15 5584, Intel i5-8265U CPU, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB Toshiba KBG40ZNS256G NVMe SSD, Intel UHD Graphics 620

Hi coderun / D.Draker: Before this August 2019 thread is locked, just note that greenhillmaniac's 08-Aug-2020 post in their thread Windows Vista Update Repository (until April 2017+) has a link to their MEGA.nz repository of 32-bit and 64-bit Vista updates, and the link to that repository was still working when I checked today. Also see SIW2's 02-Dec-2021 instructions in post # 3186 of Vista ISO Download in the VistaForums for instructions for using the Dism++ utility to patch 32-bit and 64-bit Vista SP2 installations back to end of support (11-Apr-2017). I believe that Dism++ utility is still working even though Microsoft deactivated their Windows Update servers for Win XP and Vista on 03-Aug-2020. The last time I checked in December 2021 users performing a clean reinstall of Vista were still able to re-activate their license using the slui.exe 4 method in Step 2 / Option 2 of Brink's tutorial How to Activate Vista Normally and by Phone Activation in the VistaForums. D.Draker: Since you specifically mention Kaby Lake I'd suggest reading Will Vista Work on Kaby Lake? and Compatible Hardware with Windows Vista. I'm not certain but I recall reading that Vista will not run correctly on machines with 7th gen Kaby Lake processors.

Hi Boss: Thanks for letting us know that updating your trust certificates seems to have fixed you CAPI2 errors. There are multiple reasons why a .msu standalone installer will display that generic message - see the section titled "The update is not applicable to your computer" in the MS support article Windows Update Troubleshooting. The most common reasons are that the update is already installed (e.g., like your KB4015461), the update is no longer required because it was superseded (replaced) by a newer update that is already installed on your system, or you tried to install an update that doesn't match the architecture of your OS (e.g., you tried to run a 32-bit/x86 installer on a computer with a 64-bit OS). In most cases this message just means that the update isn't required for your system.

Hi Boss: Try a slight variation of greenhillmaniac's suggestion <here>. Download the MicrosoftRootCertificateAuthority2011.cer file from http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=747875&clcid=0x409 and save it to the root C:\ directory of your computer (i.e., so the location is C:\MicrosoftRootCertificateAuthority2011.cer). Then open an elevated command prompt with Administrator rights (search for "Command Prompt" from the search box next to the Start button and choose Run as Administrator), and enter the command certutil -addstore "Root" "C:\MicrosoftRootCertificateAuthority2011.cer" (include the quotes) to apply the required trust certificate. Does KB4014984 (Security and Quality Rollup for NET. Framework 2.0, 3.0, 4.5.2, 4.6 on Windows Vista SP2 and Server 2008 SP2: April 11, 2017) install correctly after that trust certificate is applied?

Hi winvispixp: You might be interested in reading ITMA's 14-Jan-2021 thread Security Software for Windows Vista? in the Norton forum. That thread offers suggestions for a few security programs with real-time protection that still receive regular virus definition updates and are compatible with Win XP and Vista, including the legacy Norton Security v22.15.x, the legacy Malwarebytes Premium v3.5.1, the legacy Avast/AVG Antivirus Free v18.8, the legacy Kaspersky v18.0/v19.0 (Free and paid products, v18.0 for older CPUs that do not support SSE2; v19.0 for Pentium III or newer CPUs that support SSE2), and Panda Security's current line of Panda Dome products. I don't believe the legacy Norton products or current Panda Dome products have been mentioned in this thread yet. As noted <here> in ITMA's thread, ESET is currently supporting Win XP and Vista, but that support will likely end on 15-Apr-2021 when their SHA-1 code signing certificates expire. Also note that when ITMA's thread started on 14-Jan-2021 Norton was originally planning to end support for Win XP and Vista on 28-Feb-2021, but the company reversed that decision (see Norton employee Gayathri_R's 08-Mar-2020 announcement Maintenance Mode for Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 SP0 for Norton Security Software) and continues to support these older operating systems. I used Norton Security Deluxe v22.15.x for several years on my "plain vanilla" Vista SP2 machine (patched to Vista SP2 end of support, no Win Server 2008 updates or extended kernel) and was very happy with the protection it offered, but I switched to Malwarebytes Premium v3.5.1 a few years ago after I purchased a Win 10 laptop. Malwarebytes Premium v3.5.1 is a good choice for my Vista SP2 machine because I only use it on occasion as a test machine so it's rarely connected to the internet these days, and because I had a spare perpetual / lifetime license for Malwarebytes Premium (not available for purchase since 2014) that does not require me to pay an annual subscription. ---------- 32-bit Vista Home Premium SP2 * Firefox ESR v52.9.0 * Malwarebytes Premium v3.5.1-1.0.365 HP Pavilion dv6835ca, Intel Core2Duo T5550 @ 1.83 GHz CPU, 3 GB RAM, Western Digital Scorpio WD2500BEVS 256 GB SATA HD, NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS

Just an FYI that NortonLifeLock has reversed its decision and is planning to continue delivering SDS (virus) definitions and other protection updates to the legacy version of Norton Security v22.15.x for Win XP and Vista beyond 28-Feb-2021. See NortonLifeLock employee Gayathri_R's announcement today (08-Mar-2021) at Maintenance Mode for Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 SP0 for Norton Security Software, which states in part: ---------- 32-bit Vista Home Premium SP2 * Firefox ESR v52.9.0 * Malwarebytes Premium v3.5.1-1.0.365 HP Pavilion dv6835ca, Intel Core2Duo T5550 @ 1.83 GHz, 3 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS