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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... That's why the MozillaZine (not related to Mozilla) KB site was created in the first place : http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.backspace_action -
360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
VistaLover replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Mentioned previously in this thread: FWIW, this is the XP-compatible version 4 (last official 4 build being v4.0.7.22); version 5 is Chromium 86 based, latest version 6 is Chromium 101 based; v5 & v6 require Win7SP1 and higher... http://dcbrowser.cqttech.com/ (What with Google services being banned in mainland China and DCBrowser targeting only the Chinese, a Google search for "dcbrowser" here did not return that homepage above ...)- 2,340 replies
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My Browser Builds (Part 4)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
The path that works for me is: ftp://ftp.dyu.edu.tw/pub/Hardware/vendor/Diamond/display/fire-gl/fire-gl-1000-pro/b1kp154.exe (206 KiB file...) -
Updated browser list for Windows XP
VistaLover replied to Cixert's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... What version of Chromium is that based on? Also, it appears that its installer can't be unpacked with any of the known extractors ; many people, myself included, won't run directly a Chinese-made setup... Indeed, version 8.0.0.21681 (from May 31st), based on Chromium 79 (way far from latest Chromium 106 ), requires at least Win7: http://www.liebao.cn/index.html- 81 replies
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360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version
VistaLover replied to Humming Owl's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Hi Dave ! 20 days have passed since and we're less than a week away from the time clocks will have to be set one hour back (in your case, from BST to GMT), am I to infer that lack of further communication on this means that the "incorrect-today" issue on your 360EEv13.5 copy has no longer manifested itself? ... Considering you were skeptical about that ,,, Cheers- 2,340 replies
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Updated browser list for Windows XP
VistaLover replied to Cixert's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... I won't miss it myself, it is/was sending most user data to Chinese servers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UC_Browser Works here, but only links for the mobile version are to be found in it:- 81 replies
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Force "multiprocess mode" in FF 52
VistaLover replied to Mathwiz's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@Slavich : How does your latest post above fit into this thread/topic? This is about force-enabling multiprocess (aka electrolysis=e10s) in Firefox 52 ESR (under Windows XP) and in roytam1's Serpent 52.9.0/55.0.0 forks... Please post any issue(s) you have with New Moon (27 or 28?) in the appropriate thread ...- 142 replies
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My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Better first check on Mozilla Firefox 52.9.0, too... If it doesn't detect Silverlight too, then your issue probably has to do with a corrupted (global) Silverlight installation ... If a complete SL-removal-OS reboot-SL-re-installation doesn't fix it, an old Mozilla Support article that may contain useful info is this one ... Edit: If "plugin.scan.plid.all" is set to true (default), then SL should be detected by St52 via the reg-key below: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MozillaPlugins\@Microsoft.com/NpCtrl,version=1.0 Hope I've helped ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Can't confirm/WFM ; in a fresh Serpent 52.9.0 profile, latest St52 (2022-10-13) (32-bit), the NPAPI plugin is correctly identified inside "about:addons => Plugins" : When I visit a test SL page (radioactivepages.com), "Click-to-activate" is correctly triggered: ... and after I "Allow Now", the animation (clockwork) plays fine: -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
@UCyborg : It's well past midnight here and I had a rough day today (rusty plumbing caused a water leak in one wall of my flat ), so I'll review the linked documentation tomorrow, when, hopefully, I'll be more lucid , but, put in layman's terms, who is right and who is wrong here? Is UXP doing the right thing by taking into account "z-index=-2", resulting in the image being hidden, or is Chromium doing the right thing by ignoring "z-index=-2" and, thus, displaying the "story-image"? Thanks in advance ! From file https://cdn.tunwalai.com/lib/bootstrap5/bootstrap.min.css , L96-L104: .story-image { margin: 0; border-radius: 8px; display: block; height: 292px; min-width: 100%; width: 292px; z-index: -2; } -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=28972 More about "z-index" here ; still, Moonchild didn't say why Chromium displays such an image fine ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... or, rather, a "problem with UXP itself" (I can guarantee you the "tunwalai" admins don't think, even for a second, that their site has any "problem" ) ... FWIW, St52 doesn't seem to have an issue fetching the image itself (no network issues), however the CSS script it's being served is not palatable to UXP: Since it's been shown, here in this thread, that the "non-loading-image" issue also manifests itself in the official UXP apps, it had better be reported to: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewforum.php?f=70 https://forum.palemoon.org/viewforum.php?f=61 Why is this, simply, NOT a surprise? -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
In my Serpent 52.9.0 copy: -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Once again, you're correct ... But I created my cosmetic filter before patching palefill to work on "learn.microsoft.com"; without palefill doing its magic, the site in question would display as below: ... so I used the cosmetic filter: learn.microsoft.com##.has-default-focus.header-holder to also remove what "appeared" to be two "empty" ribbons ; and there it was my wrong assumption ... Thanks for pointing this out ! With palefill patched and enabled, the cosmetic filter above will also remove So a more appropriate cosmetic filter would be: learn.microsoft.com###banner-holder,#unsupported-browser which blocks both the top Microsoft Ignite "info" banner as well as the "unsupported browser" one... Thanks for that, too! Instead of removing the "unsupported browser" banner after its creation, remove the Javascript code that generates it in the first place ("promo" banner still displays, though...); @AstroSkipper, time to update your "learn.microsoft.com" custom filters ("My filters" tab of uBO) ! -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
It wasn't clear to me at first what you were speaking of there , but upon inspecting the userscript's code, I figured out it must be the problem of not being able to access GitHub releases in a UXP-based browser without having palefill/gh-wc-pf extension installed first... And yes, I have already reported this, in this very thread, just ca. 20 days ago: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182647-my-browser-builds-part-3/page/189/#comment-1226368 ... and https://github.com/martok/palefill/issues/47#issuecomment-1257080166 contains a "dirty" workaround ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Do you want these? https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/a16549ddb717f8c178f1433ade673fb0bb169b63 https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/51bb5d5c8179ff6e5ef0770403e9334bebd898d9 -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... As far as I am aware, the default setting in uBO is to have "cosmetic filtering" always enabled ("activated"), both in a global scope: as well as "on a per site" scope: Relevant reading material here ... So I take it, by what you posted, that you had disabled CF yourself sometime in the past... Am I correct in this assumption? Kind regards -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks for that link ... Let's just accept that for "now", WinXP isn't "retro", just "obsolete" : https://dfarq.homeip.net/is-windows-xp-obsolete-or-is-it-retro/ ... But it'll have become "retro" sooner than you and I would think (late 2020s, early 2030s? ); whatever the adjective used to "correctly" refer to it, "facebook" and their "pals" would still not consider it (and the browsers running on it) as a platform to officially support/test on... FWIW, let it be put on record that I personally hold nothing against WinXP; but in the majority of the cases I would post (especially in GitHub issue trackers) and complain that XP support had been removed from an app (often taking Vista support with it ), "they" were quick to point to me that "XP was first released to the public in late 2001"... Later edit: I believe https://w2k.phreaknet.org/ is a project run by one of MSFN members... "Retrocomputing" is the first term on the header; I see many references to XP therein, so perhaps it was from there I had formed a more "loose" comprehension of the "term" (to also comprise XP ) ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Palefill already had a "built-in rule" for "docs.microsoft.com", now that MS changed the hostname to "learn.microsoft.com", that rule has to be corrected accordingly; inside file "./lib/builtin-rules.js" (L56) : -docs.microsoft.com +learn.microsoft.com std-customElements ! -- Now the MS page should display as intended : BTW, if you're wondering why the page displays in its dark "flavour" (by default), it's because I have set: browser.display.prefers_color_scheme;2 inside my Serpent's config editor (about:config) ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Was your source this? https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/font-list/cambria-math (BTW, it would appear that "docs.microsoft.com" has now become "learn.microsoft.com", breaking some static filters of mine in UBO ) That page confounds most of my arguments in my previous post, i.e. in Serpent 52.9.0: 1. It displays a huge header saying: I took care of that in uBO: ! https://learn.microsoft.com learn.microsoft.com###unsupported-browser 2. While most of the page's content displays, Web Console warns of: TypeError: window.customElements is undefined[Learn More] 7743e1e8.index-docs.js:1:14604 <anonymous> https://learn.microsoft.com/_themes/docs.theme/master/en-us/_themes/scripts/7743e1e8.index-docs.js:1:14604 <anonymous> https://learn.microsoft.com/_themes/docs.theme/master/en-us/_themes/scripts/7743e1e8.index-docs.js:1:14 And that was only a "simple", knowledge-base, page... -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Hello? Where have you been? ... It's Q4 of 2022 we're into, this isn't any news ... FWIW, the overwhelming majority of sites, with social media services being the top offenders , will favour the latest Google Chrome over the rest browser choices, especially when non-mainstream ... I bet you UXP is beyond 95% of web developers/admins' radars, they have no intention of (consciously) supporting retro-computing communities that run OSes and browsers major vendors (read M$, Apple, Google) don't endorse... Who from? Web Compatibility issues in UXP-based browsers are cropping up like weeds as we speak... With WebComponents/CustomElements and Regex Named Capturing Groups (just two off the top of my head ) NOT (yet?) implemented (fully) in UXP, more sites will be in need of "further fixes", fixes which'll have to come from "upstream", noone can tell when ... [apologies if I sound a tad "ranty", sadly it's a grip with (current) reality ... ] -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
... Long-standing and known UXP issue(s) : https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28165 https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=26963 (locked) As I don't frequent FB (nor the rest of the social media ), I can't test the extent at which the "workarounds" mentioned inside the above links mitigate the problem(s) ... -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
FWIW, "upstream" have been made aware, but, sadly, can offer no insight and/or workaround ATM... https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=28855 -
My Browser Builds (Part 3)
VistaLover replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Already reported upstream: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=232312#p232312 It's the same underlying issue I spoke of in my Aug 29th post, i.e. missing Regex Unicode Property Escapes support in UXP ... As to the "whether it can be fixed?", my linked post has relevant info... German developer of palefill (martok) has recently fixed the Google Drive breakage, so perhaps all is not lost - post in palefill's issue tracker (GitHub account required) ... But if I were you, I'd use web-discord inside a Chromium-based browser (it's what they target, after all...); at the start of this year I used to frequent a Discord server and when I tried my default Vista browser, Serpent 52.9.0 (Discord "worked" there at the time), the whole experience was very sub-optimal (increased sluggishness all around the GUI ... ); for Discord, I had to switch to 360EEv12/v13 (360EEv11 had some glitches, as in not "scrolling" certain areas of the GUI ... ) . PS: Logging-in to Discord is such a PITA, though ... I have an internet connection where my IP address changes every now and then (dynamic/not dedicated IP); Discord then "needs" to re-authorise my new IP, meaning: I have to first supply my account credentials to them, then an IP-authorisation e-mail is sent in my inbox (with a short-lived link), I need to click that link in the same browser I'm trying to log-in, get the confirmation message my new IP has been "authorised", then attempt to log-in a second time (a form of 2FA, as I lack a mobile phone) ... One of the (many) reasons I avoid "social networks" like the plague !