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which reminds me, none of the sis 760 drivers that i tested on w98SE worked on sis's site, either giving a black screen or not allowing me to change the resolution. i had to manually find a older version which only worked somewhat, allowed increasing screen solution but occasional random freezes, though i don't know if the freeze issues were because of the gpu driver specifically or other factors. i think there was a even an older driver that i found to which i may or may not have tested that had the same hardware or compatible id but mentioned sis 740, the specific laptop i used was the averatec 4155-eh1.

Here. I have it in my slipstream build but without going back and reviewing all my old notes I don't remember how I had to extract it.PCCARD.ZIP thanks, the old pccard.vxd on the w95 system i updated was 4.00.1119, the one you sent is the newest or newer at version 4.00.1121.

bump, does anyone know where to find the newest pccard.vxd for windows 95 and related files such pci.vxd for pc cards / pcmcia? i tried downloading the few limited dell packages with pccard.vxd version 4.00.1121 which someone else mentioned in another forum but the setup for the package did not work, apparently it only works on certain dell models.

ok, i got it working now without needed active desktop enabled, it seems that last time i tried to test it, i either installed it incorrectly and / or the system needed more updates. all i had to do was use the classic opera 10.63 installer, installed it without launching it yet, copied and replaced the old opera.exe file and dll file with the newer ones, and then i was able to launch the browser and it worked fine.

yes, both winsock 2.0 and dcom95 were installed, as well as ie 5.5 with sp2, directx 8.0a, etc, although i don't remember if i tried it with active desktop enabled, perhaps it may work with it enabled, i use windows 95 osr 2.5. my question is simply on the instructions, am i right that all you have to do is install opera 10.63 and replace the dll and exe files with the ones listed on that site and when relaunching, it should work? assuming i have all the other requirements? im gonna go ahead and do the same method as implied with active desktop enabled.

One question that immediately comes to mind is, "Do you have at least Windows Sockets 2.0 for Windows?" Opera 9.5 on Windows 95 requires Windows Sockets 2.0 (published June 15, 2008) The direct link for w95ws2setup.exe is available here: http://web.archive.org/web/20080615142443/http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/e/0/0e05231b-6bd1-4def-a216-c656fbd22b4e/W95ws2setup.exe yes

i bumped this because im interested in running opera 10.63 on windows 95, i browsed the web page that mentions instructions on how to get opera 10.63 to work on w95 but im not sure on the instructions so i tried to manually copy the modified dll and exe opera files in the zipped file on the page and replaced them with the opera 10.63's files but it didn't work. i did this a while ago so i don't remember exactly what i did, i believe i used the classic 10.63 opera installer on windows 95, did not launch the browser, replaced the dll and exe files, then tried launching it but it didnt and gave an error, the download name on the web page says "opera 10.63 windows 95 fix zip package with above fixes", implying as if all the instructions are done? i also want to make it known that im not familiar with hex editors and don't want to use them.

i was wondering if anyone has experimented or used any laptops that are no newer than ich6 based for the chipsets. most, if not all the laptops i used for windows 95 or 98SE builds from like ich2 - ich6 were not able to show the cpu temperatures or other temperatures, except for the hard drive when using either speedfan 4.28 ( works on both windows 95 and 98SE ) or hwmonitor 1.17, works on 98SE. i've used mostly dell inspiron and latitude models and some other random models from different brands. i was thinking there may be some asus models or alienware laptops that may have the internal sensors to show the cpu temperature, the laptops don't need to be fully supported or directly supported in terms of originally having the operating system on them from the start. any thoughts or suggestions?

well now i found out that the intel chipset software installation utlitiy i've been using mostly in the past is version 3.30.1010, which is newer than the ones you mentioned lonecrusader. however, i think i remember using two versions on the same computer where the older version actually installed some other drivers or devices in device manager so the ones you mentioned are probably needed to install everything. im not sure which laptop i used, i think it was the 855GM chipset which i installed on windows 95 but it had the smbus driver missing where i couldn't find the right package at the time to install the driver for it, but i think perhaps an older inf or package that i haven't tried may take care of it. ( correction, it was either the 845mp or mz chipset ) also not relevant to this specific thread but i thought i just post it here as i don't find it absolutely necessary to make another thread for it but i haven't found a proper working driver for the cisco mpi350 mini pci wireless card for windows 95, the oldest one i found and tested was version 1.26 in 2001 but gives a code 2 of device failure in device manager. the semi good news is that the text document lists windows 98 in it so im fairly sure it will work at least on windows 98SE.

i was gonna experiment with nt 4.0 next, though i gave up halfway because i couldn't even login to the operating system and i couldn't find out what exactly i did wrong for that to happen. i think i used the terminal server edition, i picked that one because i thought if i picked the newest or a newer version, i would encounter less problems in general. i think i may try out the regular server version next and see if i can get it even past the login phase lol, there seems to be a lot of limitations though from the research i have done such as the 7.8 GB hard drive limatation which i still have not find a clear answer of what exactly you would have to do to get past it or fix it, like some source said if you have the install disc with service pack 4 at least, then you just format it as the largest it can take without necessarily setting a manual size and then after your within the os, put sp6 on it and it fixes the issue and displays the full size? i do find it attractive though that you can install lots of ram, up to 4 GB i believe without issues ( or at least, that is what wikipedia said ). is this true?

even those specs are slow for windows 95, even those specs are weak for windows 95, i wouldn't recommend anything less than a pentium III for windows 95, unless your strictly doing it for educational purposes and not to re sell it, then the pentium 133 Ghz on w95B or C is fine, for windows 98, i would not use anything less than a pentium 4 or a processor that doesn't have SSE2 instructions, with SSE, its ok with w95 because most people probably won't do much or can't do much extensive work on the internet anyways, your limited to fairly basic sites like craigslist, wikipedia, youtube ( with basic 240p video playback ) if you use the unofficial flash 7 plug in, and other basic sites.

I had wished you would say: "Unless it's a *really new* PC, I prefer Win98SE..." as far as i know, windows 98SE can be made to work fairly modern with all the unofficial updates and work that has been done to it so far, so you can have a near "modern" working pc with the nostalgic feel of a old operating system, 1080p video watching in youtube, playing fairly new games online or offline, use and browse most sites properly like facebook, hotmail, ebay, etc. windows 95 as of now just has too many limitations to make it practical to work as a near modern pc, some of them would be directx 8.0a ( although there are a few dx 8.0a games that look nice ), 8.0a is slightly old for extensive graphics and functionality, no or limited wdm support ( someone correct me if im wrong ), fewer API codes, and just generally harder to build more stable or newer in functioning.

i don't know about the toughbook cf-29 but i had some difficulties getting the intel extreme graphics 2 driver that the toughbook cf-29 also uses to work on windows 98SE on other laptops. either the driver would not work properly despite downloading a windows 98 version, where you would need to find another very specific windows 9x driver or it would work but freeze intermittently on playing videos or any flash related stuff and also dxdiag would indicate it using like no video memory, i think i remember it was only like 9 MB or something ridiculously low, but that could just have to do with using newer unsupported dell dimension desktops with picky bios's on windows 98 which would be a no no, maybe if it was like a asrock 865g board, it would work better, but i dont know. as far as the gpu goes, you should be able to find a working audio driver and ethernet, although be prepared if finding a driver is more difficult than you expect. you will find many pcmcia, usb or mini pci wireless wifi cards that will work on windows 98, though i would avoid pcmcia as my experience with it was not too good, i got resource conflicts and system lockups when trying to confgure pcmcia wifi cards, usb is good but doesn't look practical to me for a laptop. mini pci would be best as its internally and securely installed in the laptop but the problem is some cards not supported, even if they physically fit into the laptop, you will get a message upon booting that the mini pci device is not supported and it has been disabled.

i just checked now and there seems to be an official driver for the geforce 8400gs under windows 2000 basing off the inf file and readme of forceware 163.75 so i think your set for the graphics card.

just looking at the specs and not factoring much of other things, windows 2000 would be the best choice. being that the board you use is an ich7 chipset, it is supported for the chipset part, 4 GB of ram will WORK on windows 2000 ( but may be a little less though, like 3.5 GB or so ), geforce 8400gs might work, but im not sure, i know that the 7000 series are supported officially. even then, it would be easier to make newer hardware to work on windows 2000 than to do the same thing on windows 98SE so there may be a slight advantage of using windows 2000 in general. with all that said, even if you dont use the geforce 8400gs, the gma 950 is supported on windows 2000 which your motherboard uses. the older operating systems have too many limitations and modificiations needed to make it practical to work for your particular setup.

Sorry for the late reply, timezone's fault (and my cat's too). I'm afraid you misunderstood the utility of the tool. It does not search the web for drivers - it merely reads the registry and displays the information found in there. It's possible that Win95 behaves a little differently than 98 and later. When devices are detected and no drivers are found for them, those devices should appear as 'Unknown device' in their corresponding sections. Their VID & PID or VEN & DEV, if known, will be displayed below as a hint for the user so they know what drivers to look for. When an Internet connection already exists, the application tries to silently download the current vendor and device ID database from www.pcidatabase.com (may not be the most up-to-date list though and behavior may change in subsequent application versions) in order to be able to provide the aforementioned feedback. If there is no Internet connection, the application will use an internal database or - if previously downloaded - the database (VendorID_DB.txt) found in application's folder. The USB_devices.txt database is not updated currently. a lot has happened from the other day, i replaced windows 95 on the laptop with windows 98 to see if i could get more support which i couldn't get it to work properly, could not find a working sound driver still, for some reason java 1.5.22 that would work on previous builds wouldn't install completely, it would just freeze the pc at near of end of setup where only one bar was left i believe, i eventually got a older version of java to install, i believe 1.4.19 AFTER deleting all java linked files in the find option and uninstalling any of them in add or remove programs but net 2.0 didnt want to install and i just didnt want to work with the pc anymore so i decided to install windows 2000 SP4 to see how it would function and it didnt even fully install windows 2000, it got stuck on the starting up windows 2000 logo part with i think 10 bars where i tried to restart the system a few times with the same results so i just decided to install windows 7 and currently, its in the gui right now but the windows update is taking a long time, i did increase the ram to 1.5 GB ram before installing the os. it was 1 GB on windows 98 and 512 MB on windows 95. i find it interesting that it ran with less problems on windows 95, than on 98, and 2k. the good part is, at least i have the drivers that did work on windows 95 as i may plan on testing it out on the same laptop again sometime in the future, although windows 98 would be better because of the better support of wdm. i will have to see.

i found a ich3-s motherboard with sata ports lol, although it would be extremely expensive to buy - http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/E7501/X5DPL-TGM.cfm

wow, that is a nice Intel D845PEBT2 motherboard with sata ports with release information mentioning september 2002 and ich4, i thought 2003 was the earliest for sata ports in motherboards but i guess intel implemented them a little earlier, i also thought ich5 was the earliest for sata ports but that board uses them with ich4, btw, i checked those two chipset software utilities but basing off the devlist, it only mentions up to ich3, nowhere does it mention ich4 and no windows 95 folders within the package. the one i use does use windows 95 folders under the name of win95cur and win95old with the same devlist info, although i renamed the chipset inf package, so i dont know which version it is anymore. are you sure there are ich4 drivers specifically listed for windows 95 or maybe they are not listed specifically, but still work to internally suit ich4 builds?

Technically no. The last Intel chipset with official 95 support was the 845 ICH4 Pentium 4 chipset. I have several 845 chipset based boards that have working 95 drivers for every single device except the USB2.0 conrollers.If you're just looking for chipset support, it is simple enough to create INFs (or modify those for later OS'es) to properly name all of the devices. The problem comes when other devices on the board no longer get along well with Windows 9x, whether it be integrated Audio or Network cards, or more obscure non-configurable things like the ACPI controller. I have successfully used Windows 95 without any such problems on an Intel 875 chipset board. Not all drivers were available, but there were no resource conflicts or other such annoyances. thats interesting that you got up to ich4 chipset drivers working, i was only able to find up to ich3-s and ich3-m in the packages, but i guess i haven't looked enough up to this point . looking at the list of intel chipsets on wikipedia indicates ich4 was brought out in 2002 so it does make sense that windows 95 was still supported as i read somewhere that windows 95 still received updates till december 31, 2002, and not 2001, or at least, some of the hotfixes i have, link files to dates of 2002 and newer, the one im looking at right now links to 2004, q837209, with all this said, i do thank you for bringing up that ich4 is also supported on windows 95, although i work more on laptops now, i now a newer chipset to work with on w95 desktop builds, but would ich4-s and ich4 be the same in driver support? reason being is that the recent laptop i worked with, the dell inspiron 600m with 855gm or pm chipset, i was not able to find a driver for the smbus which is usually updated after installing the inf update on older chipsets, but i guess that answers my question on ich4-s vs ich4, ich4 IS supported, ich4-s is not? btw, did you use ide drives on that 875 chipset or sata in compatiblity mode / legacy mode? would be nice to to use a board like that and have sata drives in ide mode.

i ran the hddb exe file, it brought up a similar device id indentifier like the unknown devices i use but did not connect to the web for a update and gui. i did not find any unknown devices in the list, however, it does list more detailed device id's that i can possibly look up to see if i can find a working driver. does this hddb tool actually go on the web and find updates for windows 98SE though?

yes, i did download some of the official xp drivers to see if i can find instances to older drivers but with no luck so far. originally, i had a little hard time finding a lot of information for the laptop before obtaining it, i was unsure of the gpu portion for one, though i was sucessfully able to find a working w95 driver, under the name of m10 in device manager or mobility 9600 for the other name. i did check the ethernet driver and it had w95osr2 supported and i also have it working, one thing new is the laptop is apparently based on an ati chipset, which i rarely encountered when working with desktop or laptops, or at least, i always choose the intel based ones because they just seem to more common and wikipedia ( list of intel chipsets ) always helps me with the support info . basically ich3-s and m would be the last to support windows 95 ( as fas as the chipset portion goes ). what would be nice is to see if i can find if there are motherboard chipset drivers for this laptop as i also don't know where to look for this portion. one way would be to use an ati based chipset identifier so i can maybe get some other important updates. does anyone know if there is a chipset identifer under w95 that works with ati chipsets? im open to try out suggestions that can help with any of the issues i need help with. btw. thanks for the info drugwash.

i was wondering if anyone can help me find some working drivers for a few missing devices on a hp compaq presario r3001 laptop with windows 95 installed. the ones i have missing are listed below - PCI Multimedia Audio DeviceUnable to Detect, Hardware ID: VEN_1002&DEV_4341 PCI System PeripheralUnable to Detect, Hardware ID: VEN_104C&DEV_8201 Unknown DeviceUnable to Detect, Hardware ID: VID_049F&PID_0086 the audio on hp's site indicates ad1981b, though i could not find a vxd version / windows 95 one with the same hardware id. devid.info site has not worked all day so i couldn't check there as i usually check there for hardware id's. pci system peripheral links to some hp firmware loading device but from the few packages i downloaded, they were not detected in the device manager manual inf finder and i also tried two of them using the setup option but mentioned other devices that werent compatible and nothing changed after installing them. unknown device links to some bluetooth usb device, the earliest package i found had the inf of 2003 but still did not work after restart. although i did find a "working" driver for the pcmcia controllers, i still dont know how to get the pc cards to work. i have (2) texas 1620 controllers, a pcic to pcmcia controller ( which was there from when i first installed the operating system, the other 2 texas 1620 controllers were part of other devices that i found a working driver ), and just recently, a pcmcia card services with 2001 driver date working ( which came up when i plugged in the intel pro wireless 2011b pc card that im trying to get to work ). i downloaded the intel wireless drivers for the pro 2011b, ran setup but as i don't the card specifically listed in device manager, im lost on trying to install the driver and get it working.

Beats me. Mr. Loew, you got the floor. when you say win95, does that mean forceware 82.69 / 82.16 may work on windows 95, but may not support geforce 7000 series gpu? or is it meant to only correct shutdown problems with official driver releases such as the 81.98 forceware? not that you would need anything better than like a fx 5200 on windows 95 lol. the best games i have researched only recommend 32 MB graphics cards with dx8.0a, so a 64 MB video card on windows 95 would be good enough for most things. which brings up a question, does anyone know any games that recommend 64 MB of video memory on windows 95?

i found two files that you uploaded drugwash, from what i downloaded, the only thing that you would need to do is run the autopatcher from "shutdownpatcher1450" to fix the shutdown issues, so what is the other download for with the file "ShutdownPatcher1450_src"? and this is for the forceware 82.69 under windows 98SE right?

virtual memory shouldn't be disabled in any circumstance in win95 / 98, from what i gathered, every build i had that i disabled virtual memory to see if it would fix anything would actually mess up everything and crash almost anything i ran. if your using 2 GB of ram, regardless of limiting the maxphyspage and min/maxfilecache will probably still give you a malfunctioning computer or insufficient memory errors because for some reason, even though the extra ram is limited, it still seems to interfere within the operating system. try to see if you can run only one stick of ram if your using 2 sticks of 1 GB so you only have a max of 1 GB, although every windows 95 i worked with would not boot with more than 512 MB ram from the start, only windows 98SE would. all my recent windows 95 builds had the ram limited to 384 MB with one 512 MB stick of ram ( which is how much you would have to begin with in the first place ), any more than 384 MB, like 392 MB or higher would make the computer malfunction / give out of memory errors, and i think virtual memory even got disabled.