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Updated to 3.9.12 and deleted the cache - all working now. Thank you

It's a copilot+ laptop - which is the "new standard" with neural processing hardware built-in - very new but will become more or less the standard. The launch key is in the place where the right Ctrl key used to be. The default copilot shortcut combination in windows 11 is Win+c (lower case) - I can confirm that this is also not working when SAB is running. It is possible to assign Alt+spacebar as a shortcut for a minimal "quick view" version of copilot via copilot's settings - that shortcut does work but only for the much reduced version. (there is obviously no physical "F23" key on a laptop - microsoft map that "win-shift-F23" to the dedicated Copilot+ key) Copilot itself is definitely runable - it runs if started from its icon or in that cut-down version via the optional shortcut I have tried every combination of SAB settings I could - enabling and disabling "classic enhanced" taskbar and start menu etc - I have to disable SAB to use the copilot+ shortcuts.

Hope I'm in the right place - tried looking for this but can't find anything. Using SAB 3.9.11 on an Asus UX5406 Zenbook laptop with W11 24H2 and with SAB running, the onboard Copilot+ shortcut key stops working - if I disable SAB, it works fine. There is no other app or setting disabling that key and the app works if launched manually - it's only with SAB running that it stops working.

Then this should not be called a problem or a bug at all. [/quote} I made no comment about it being "a problem" or "a bug" - I merely confirmed what a couple of other users had reported as the way SiB was handling a paricular scenario. I don't think this is related to the trial expiration. Tihiy said the applications had their own icons since version 2.0. I just read back some pages and found out the first version of SIB I installed is 2.0.2. After installing it I entered the key at once. And a few days later when I looked through folder Start Apps, all the icons were blank. I didn't say it was or wasn't "related to the trial expiration" - I was just asking the poster to clarify because his post was rather ambiguous and pointed to known solutions to some of the possible interpretations.

It doesn't detract from ORelio's work to say that you've come up with some good ideas there. Besides, ORelio's been very open to feedback and suggestions since starting this and we've all benefited from that. Even the big, commercial software producers have people who aren't necessarily programmers but are imaginative and very good at saying "wouldn't it be great if..." - then leaving the poor old programmers to work out how to make it happen.

I can confirm that the menu remains in its "last used state" when re-opened - so if the last use had it scrolled to the bottom, it reopens already scrolled to the same place. Aloha.. I'm with you in not having sufficient entries in the start menu to even see the scollbar - but temporarily reducing the number of "recent programs" let me see what happens (makes the menu-window that much smaller). And thanks for explaining it clearly - I was struggling to understand until your post number 1821

Do you mean that you have icons but they are plain, white squares - or do you mean that there are no icons showing at all? If you have no icons, do you have the text naming the programs or is the program list itself completely empty? If that's the case, have you registered your copy of SIS - if not and the free trial has expired, it will remain blank unless you register and pay the (very reasonable) fee.

If you right-click on the folder in the start-menu, it will give you the option to open the folder in explorer BUT I can't say if it's "safe" to simply delete the icons from there.

I'm not sure that the "generate inactive colour" setting is needed (or works) anymore. Inactive, transparent window borders should "tinted" with the active window glow colour rather than having an independant colour (which I believe only worked anyway when transparency was disabled) Apart from that, I like the additions/changes you've made - it make AGT more of an all-in-one "appearence tweaker". Hopefully, Orelio and yourself can expand on that - a font changer would be useful, for example (it can be done as there stand-alone apps to do it). In essence, you could end-up with a replacement for the old-style personalisation settings tool that was removed with W8.

Thanks for the update - and I have to say that it's amazing that each update genuinely improves what was already an excellent app. (I actually tried using W8 without SIB a couple of days ago - I'd forgotten how bad it is ) Am I right to say that if you are installing 2.1 as an update, your existing orbs are not deleted or affected in any way (that's certainly how it worked for me)?

There is nothing about it that needs to be installed - just unzip it and double-click the exe.

Sontawila... It's a bit difficult to diagnose a problem you used to have when you say things like "I currently have everything on default value..." That implies that you had non-default "things" when you had SiB installed and were having the crashes. Did you have patches, hacks, themes, betas or non-default settings or applications in use at the time you had the crashes - not just relating to SiB but anywhere on your computer? It is entirely possible for a perfectly good, stable application to be "involved in" crashing a pc - if another, unsafe application reacts with it. In that case, removing the safe application can stop the crashes occuring but the real cause would still remain. Without at least that basic information, it will be completely impossible for anyone to even start to help you or decide what caused your reported crashes. All anyone can say for now is that this app is very popular and there is no widespread reporting of faults such as you are reporting - which suggests that there is something specific to your pc that is involved - if not actually the real cause. The one thing I would say - and it also relates to your "I currently have everything on default value" comment... If you have now re-installed SiB and everything else on your pc is completely standard - no hacks, betas - but that wasn't previously the case, you need to just leave it running a while and see if the problem has disappeared. If it has, you can retry any other patches etc that you were previously using until you find the one that actually caused the crashes.

Sontawila... Was there anything "personalised" about your installation of StartIsBack - such as a third-party skin or image for the start button orb - or were you perhaps using a non-Windows standard image for your Windows user-account picture - or were you using any sort of non-standard theme for Windows in general? Also, were you using any other patches or hacks - such as aeroglass or similar?

Dakotahnorth... Try going into the standard Windows "personalisation" settings and lowering the "colour intenstity" setting to about halfway - see if that helps.

It's a bloody BETA version and you are running a thread asking for BETA TESTERS. Telling me to "read the effing manual" is ridiculous - because that information should be ON THIS FORUM and because the "read me" actually says NOTHING. What's the point of telling us what "d2d1.pbb" DOESN'T do - why don't you tell us what it DOES do? It's perfectly reasonable for a person to question why a file with D2D in it's name is present in an app that - according to you - does use D2D.