ok... window lover... maybe if they don't charge us 600$ for vista ultimate I'll submit reported errors. Maybe because you have been using XP for so many years. Any different OS takes learning curve. My only hope is Vista, Longhorn isn't "too different" from XP and Server 2003. And it would be made possible to interoperate with older system. They kind of have to. Bloating is a way of Microsoft saying we work alot on the new feature, give us money now. It's like all those Vista promotion site saying blah blah blah, more secure, blah blah blah, easier to use, blah blah blah... Without saying exactly what is better.