Yeah, I realize this, when I install I only pick a custom selection, of course I don't select everything, but it's there for anyone that might need it for some reason. I like the codecguys because they have like 2 updates a month, and they update to the latest offerings, even if apple or real do silent updates to their qt or rm, codecguide updates their package to the very latest versions... And yeah, you are probably right about calling a codec pack 'the best', sorry about that. I know some are good at what they do and it's the persons choice on what they want to use, I've been using codecguide stuff exclusively for 2 years now, and I don't really bother with anything else, but there are other good ones too. But of course, there are bad examples of codec packs too. For instance I dunno why would anyone install the nimo packs these days, that pack is so ancient now, but I see people linking to it all the time on other forums...