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  1. I'm surprized that WDIDLE3 any version works (or appears to work) as it is not specified

    as software applicable to that model(/model family) of drive (referring to this;)

    http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=608〈=en

    which is reached via this webpage (applicable 'model family' at bottom left of webpage;)

    http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?level1=6〈=en

    _

    Although not specifically about your model of drive (but is applicable to the 'model family'),

    you may find this webpage of interest;

    http://koitsu.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/wd30ezrx-and-aggressive-head-parking/

    ("RP9, KernelEx, both are unaffected by this problem" - if so, why not try the 98SESP3.xx?)

  2. "This 2nd board CAN NOT HAVE THE SATA TURNED ON IN BIOS AT ALL BECAUSE IF I DO

    WINDOWS LOCKS UP DURING BOOT."

    Meaning 2nd board=Foxconn 648FX7MF-S .

    [WELCOME back Nomen, after your less than pleasant experience]

    I'm not clear on whether earlytv is booting off an IDE or SATA hard drive.

    _

    "Website has 4A3F1P31 bios board says 6.00PG bios???"

    Elsewhere on the startup (BIOS) screens it may say 4A3F1P31 (or like 4A3F1Pxx),

    possibly appearing too fast for you to notice.

    6.00PG bios is the base BIOS firmware, (like we are all HUMAN not chimpanzee or gorilla), while

    4A3F1P31 is the name of the particular BIOS 'variation' of 6.00PG for ONLY

    that motherboard model (like you only are named EARLYTV, although other members

    are all human, but different named humans).

    _

    "My boards have old 40 pin ide and sata so what does that mean?"

    Any IDE containing motherboard only has '40 pin' position connecting slot,

    it is the IDE cables that are either described as '40 pin/wire' or '80 pin/wire'

    cables. You NEED the '80 wire' cable to get best performance/speed!

    _

    [Actually, I was confused by "(No AHCI Only SATA Controllers Present)"

    which would perhaps be better written in its' webpage as;

    (No 'AHCI Only' SATA Controllers Present) ]

  3. @Dencorso said;
    "using IE 5.50.4807.2300 surely isn't an option, even if it's good to know it works"
    Ha ha ha, certainly I meant not such an inference... merely providing Ver used for completeness of info.[Grin]
    (Also, I should have added that I was using WinME as OS.)
    Incidently, it really would be helpful to have a Pinned 'For Testing posting text only - posting by members' topic in Site and Forum Issues, so mbrs can (as a singular example, but not limited to); test whether text or URL's will be displayed in a Post.
    (Yes, there is Preview, but better to test somewhere in a 'junk' Test topic, so member could try turning off ad-blocking or malware software that they may suspect is interfering with posting OR try posting using different browsers/vers, etc.).
    CheersEDIT No such exists, but this will do in the meantime; http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/158377-test/

  4. Firefox 2.0.0.20 (and surely other later vers) shows;
    "The page isn't redirecting properly
    Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this
    address in a way that will never complete.
    * This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to
    accept cookies."
    [You say 'Der-Fred'.]
    Attempts to access above Post #61 link; (i.e. "but this doesn't for ハイドン")
    http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showuser=229127
    (with 'referrer information' active in FF;
    [ref;
    http://kb.mozillazine.org/The_page_is_not_redirecting_properly#Enable_referrer_information
    note;your FF browser almost certainly has 'referrer information' already
    activated as default])
    shows in the URL bar;
    +(OUCH! forum software[?]won't let this URL display! so you'll have to view
    what appears in your URL bar with referrer info turned on, as I say)+
    whilst concurrently down in the status bar is shown the two alternating texts;
    'Connecting to www.msfn.org' and 'Waiting for www.msfn.org'
    and yes, it alternates these statements about 20 times, which suggests this
    webpage;
    http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.http.redirection-limit
    has relevance in talking only about a resulting }SYMPTOM{, but so far not
    the actual CAUSE, of the problem.
    Incidently, the URL Post #61 link; (i.e. "but this doesn't for ハイドン") DOES complete
    and takes you to ハイドン's profile, if you (sign-in with &) use the
    browser I.E. 5.50.4807.2300 .

  5. jaclaz;

    Do read and understand the question by jassenna.

    "Anyway, I would like to dig deeper. Any of these programs must look for the saved

    password in some file or other. Any idea about the names of such files?"

    He is enquiring now about any "saved password" generally, and any location of such

    password 'in some file OR OTHER'. My reply draws to his attention that should he look

    for an ISP PASSWORD, he may NOT be able to find it within such a file in his computer -

    but rather within the stored memory in his DSL modem/router.

    ALSO he DID NOT state which "password used by an Internet connection" he found, so

    why should you take the view that my post is automatically invalid? You said also;

    "Surely the password is stored *somewhere*"... "somewhere else, cannot say." Well,

    I can and did say an example of where a "password used by an Internet connection" is

    kept, (if you couldn't), so there is no reason to you to attack me for doing so.

    Also you say, "The OP ALREADY FOUND what he was looking for" - so what!! AS YOU

    THEN ACKNOWLEDGE the OP has 'shifted the question', (He wants to dig deeper!) so

    your statement "The OP ALREADY FOUND what he was looking for" has no relevance -

    unless your intention is to deliberately annoy.

    _

    ALTHOUGH I make it a hard and fast rule to only post when my post INCLUDES information

    relevant to the THREAD TOPIC, (unlike yours above) I'll make an exception in THIS post -

    because you TOO OFTEN descend into nonrelevant 'carping' and 'borderline sniping' about

    other posters contributions (- and I am aware of one long time project-maintaining Member

    who has started posting at another Board because of just such behaviour as yours - how do

    I know this? BECAUSE HE CITED YOUR NAME SPECIFICALLY).

    Understand, we are all interested in relevant information you have to share, because you

    often know 'dove il diavolo tiene la coda', -BUT please-, 'ridurre il piagnistei irrilevante,

    perché il risultato è solo un }diavolo per capello{!!'.

  6. "Is there a way to retrieve a saved password used by an Internet

    connection, short of tapping the phone line?"..."It is a DSL connection"...

    It is unclear whether you are viewing the username and password for your

    DSL MODEM or the username & password for your INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER

    (ISP).

    You may not be aware that (assuming here that your physical connections are

    Computer-TO-Modem/Router-TO-Wall Connection) the DSL Modem itself can often

    be 'talked to' by your computer for the purpose of viewing/changing modem settings

    (one such setting is the user address and connection password for your ISP, which

    when set in your modem's memory, may AUTOMATICALLY connect you to your

    ISP[& hence, Internet] when you communicate out via your Modem.) The DSL Modem

    may require you to 'log-in' to it to input such settings, only upon INITIAL SETUP of it.

    Incidently, this is why you may not need to 'sign-in' to your ISP every time you use the

    internet connection; the modem may do it automatically for you.

    (This is separate, and has nothing to do with, other 'log-in's, such as log-ins to websites

    or email providers that you use.)

    Refering to the DSL Modem Wiki;

    "Many routers provide an internal web page to the local network for device

    configuration and status reporting." You may also care to refer to the PPoE Wiki.

    You did not state maker/model of your DSL Modem/Router - here is an example

    of a webpage describing log-in procedure to a DSL Modem/Router.

    http://support.iprimus.com.au/index.php?Itemid=120&id=196&option=com_content&task=view

    Kindly refer to the manual for the maker/model of your own DSL Modem/Router

    for its equivalent procedure. Incidently, it is quite possible that the

    'ISP password' may only be stored in the Modem's memory, and is nowhere

    found in any file on your computer (nor catcheable by any keylogger, now

    to be attached).

  7. ftp://ftp.oreilly.de/pub/examples/english_examples/9780735620476/cd_contents/Tools/script56.chm
    Searchable Microsoft Windows Script Technologies CHM help file 2.78MB
    circa JScript version 5.6 , VBScript & WSH.
    _
    http://wsh2.uw.hu/index.html
    Microsoft Windows Script Host 2.0 Developer's Guide (htm webpages Book)
    "This electronic book was originally created-and still may be purchased-as a print book.
    For simplicity, the electronic version of this book has been modified as little as possible
    from its original form. For instance, there may be occasional references to sample files
    that come with the book. These files are available with the print version, but are not
    provided in this electronic edition
    ."
    e.g.;
    http://wsh2.uw.hu/ch07c.html
    Environment Variables Set by the OS vbs/WSH, JScript
    _
    http://www.ericphelps.com/index.htm
    Says "If you want to write ASP or web pages with scripting, you'll have lots of
    of friends. But if you want to write utilities using the WSH, you're on your
    own. There aren't many good sources of help out there. So let me offer what
    I have. By the way -- all I do is Visual Basic Scripting. No JavaScript here."
    Scripting links, Links to Script editors, and to Code Samples.
    _
    http://www.weijers.net/guide/intro.php
    Says "guide to HTML... it has grown to include some Javascript, Server Side Includes, CGI,
    Perl, information on Style Sheets and other things that are not strictly speaking HTML."
    Grounding in PHP , Perl, JavaScript, as pertains to their usage in a website.
    _
    http://www.michaelhorowitz.com/backupscript.html#RevisionHistory
    Michael's Backup Script vbs/WSH
    _
    http://www.silentrunners.org/termsofuse.html
    Purpose: Silent Runners.vbs identifies the programs that start up when Windows starts (Win95 to Win8 x32/x64).
    _
    http://www.vbscriptexperts.com
    a 'Pay to Access', 'time limited free trial' Forum
    _
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experts-Exchange
    _
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/4y5y7bh5(v=vs.84).aspx
    Webpage that lists VBScript version (by Host application) with Language Element

    _

    [ WinSCP (Windows Secure CoPy) is a free and open-source SFTP, SCP and FTP client for Microsoft Windows.

    Its main function is secure file transfer between a local and a remote computer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinSCP ]
    http://winscp.net/eng/docs/scripting
    Says "In addition to graphical interface, WinSCP offers scripting/console interface with many commands.

    The commands can be typed in interactively, or read from script file or another source.
    Using scripting interface directly is recommended for simple tasks not requiring any control structures."

  8. Maybe this?;

    http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Windows/XP/Q_25116367.html#a26491751

    [Note; that webpage 'Answers' may not be visible, and may have suggested incorrect

    causes for the fault stated on that webpage.

    Regardless of actual cause, that webpage OP stated the fault did not occur when he

    placed his drive in a machine with 6GB (RAM, compared with 2GB in original machine),

    and then successful conversion took place. Also stated he had files as large as

    4,294,966,784 bytes. (= 4 GiB - 512 bytes).]

    On future conversions (of drives other than that failed conversion drive, I mean), RYU81

    should check if he has very large files whose any individual size is larger than the amount

    of RAM in his computer.

    Suggestion is also to run further conversions with /V switch , i.e.;

    CONVERT volume /FS:NTFS [/V]

    volume Specifies the drive letter (followed by a colon),

    mount point, or volume name.

    /FS:NTFS Specifies that the volume to be converted to NTFS.

    /V Specifies that Convert should be run in verbose mode,

    as that webpage OP stated "I ran convert with /V and it's printing the names of the

    files as it converts (I'm not referring to the initial chkdsk phase). It seems to

    have successfully scanned a large number of small files before it failed on the

    first large file it encountered".

    }Of Course, backing up data onto separate disk, before doing further conversions.{

    In regard to RYU81 present time 'data damage' drive, well... remove it and connect

    it as a non-booting drive in another system? try image it? and try examine it with

    something like WinHex? to see if any of (both copies of) the FAT remain?

    _

    jaclaz said; "Heigh-ho! sing, heigh-ho! unto the green holly.."

    I still proffer;

    "The woods are alluring, emerald dark and deep,

    But possess I - immalleable - promises to keep,

    And smoots to go till I may sleep,

    And smoots to go till - I - may - sleep."

    -buyerninety

  9. [it may actually be a bit more complicated than that (because)...]

    Elsewhere, jaclaz suggested to ROTS (but he still has not done this);

    "You should post the specific make/model of the motherboard"

    To which buyerninety would add;

    ROTS, ALSO say what you are connecting the drive to, if any card you

    are using,

    [because elsewhere ROTS SAID "the VIA fasttrack that is connected to my drive"

    which sounds to me as if he may be using a version of something like (e.g.)

    Promise Fasttrack Controller, (PCI to SATA)?

    http://www.promise.com/storage/raid_series.aspx?region=en-global&m=21&rsn1=5&rsn3=9

    ]

    _

    AND ROTS said;

    "My current hard drive is an ATA 200GB So you are saying that all hard drives

    over 128GiB all are 48 LBA"

    so he may not understand that his (windows 98 computer) motherboard also has

    to have a BIOS which is 'LBA48 capable' (cela doit également être établie)

    _

    However, to answer ROTS specific question,

    "The point being, of this post is to ask, IS THEIR A UTLITy THAT WILL CORRECT

    THE FOLDERS AND FILES",

    if you have too many CHK (.chk) files, I suggest placing your drive into

    your "XP/Vista etc computer", and try using a utility such as:

    Chk-Back;

    http://trcdatarecovery.com/software-apps/chk-back

    or

    FileCHK;

    http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/FileCHK.shtml

    to attempt to get the CHK files back to the correct 'file type' (BUT still there

    may be damage, not able to be corrected, to data INSIDE the files).

    _

    THEN after, still on "XP/Vista etc computer" also make a BACKUP COPY of

    all your data files!

  10. FYI (I Logged In, and)

    On this webpage, scrolling down to see the listing for topic 'KernalEx 4.5.2':

    http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/91-windows-9x-member-projects/

    and to the far right of that listed Topic is shown this last post,

    (which is currently 'Yesterday, 07:06 PM by

    @jumper ') ;

    which when clicked on returns (only) this displayed webpage text;

    "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1031722 bytes) in /home/msfnorg/public_html/board/admin/sources/classes/output/publicOutput.php(1554) : eval()'d code on line 682"

    THEN returning to;

    http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/91-windows-9x-member-projects/

    and clicking on the (next) topic 'KernelEx Apps Compatibility List (New)', (which is listed below topic KernalEx 4.5.2),

    returns (only) this displayed webpage text;

    "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1344119 bytes) in /home/msfnorg/public_html/board/admin/sources/classes/output/publicOutput.php(3245) : eval()'d code on line 18"

    Other topics, which have all LAST posts in which are of OLDER dates (Jun 30 or before), correctly returns

    their last post and does not display any problem text as described above.

    _

    Relevance is that Presumably the above is due to 'Database not recovering' completely(?).

    Cheers

  11. rloew said;

    "An AHCI only Controller would make Windows 98 unuseable."

    Agreed. Although my comment, more as an aside to myself, looked at it

    from a different perspective - ICH7 being the 'high water mark' as it

    were of confident Win98 working, I often see it more as a question of

    }'what ICH7 boards give the ability to use Win98 AND MAXIMIZE the

    ability for the owner to use later technologies/later OSes in future'.{

    I have not heard of any ICH7/ICH7R/ICH7DH mobo which did not have IDE

    mode (useable by Win98). Many with ICH7R/ICH7DH (and I mean later mobo

    of 975X/G41 era) have an AHCI mode in the BIOS, therefore for me, a mobo

    with ICH7R/ICH7DH would provide an extra positive factor (for future

    proofing/useage of later drvs-OSes) when considering whether to buy.

    _

    [i readily admit that while a ICH7R/ICH7DH mobo with AHCI mode would be

    useful for using ACHI for later OSes, it is not something [FMC]Ravage

    should attempt to 'multiple boot' with. THAT setup is in the realm of

    'exploration required' - interesting to see, only for you and me... after AHCI

    set in the BIOS, would a FAT32 drv be seen on its IDE cable? would it be

    ignored BY the later OS as if it 'weren't there' in a similar fashion to how a

    Win98 FAT32 drv doesn't 'see' an NTFS drv?... would the later AHCI using

    OS attempt to write to & corrupt(?) the Win98 install on the Win98 FAT32

    drv... more curious questions in the Win98 world...

    grin.]

    _

    (In regard to ICH7R/ICH7DH, I am aware of about three 'if money no

    problem' G41 industrial boards that would be my prime purchase targets

    for a Win98 system... but perhaps we shouldn't wander further off

    [FMC]Ravage's topic!.)

    Cheers

  12. @[FMC]Ravage, on 25 June 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

    "Core2 + PCI Express"

    If I understand, you are trying to strike a balance between achieving a

    useable Win98 system [hence the ICH7 + 3 PCI] w/ a reasonably recent mobo

    allowing for use w/ other [later] OSes (in future, or now w/ multiple boot).

    You want that mobo to use a reasonably fast CPU [hence the Core2] & allowing

    use of cards for later technologies/useable by later OSes [hence the PCI-E].

    (Are the 3 PCI slots (and/or the 1333MHz FSB) on the Abit IP35V what attracted

    you to this mobo?)

    I guess you need to identify what are the absolute minimum number of PCI slots

    (& IDE slots) that you need for a mobo to be useful 'for you' in Win98.

    Beside that Abit 'P35' board, other makers had 'G41' or 'P41' Core2 boards

    with 3 PCI & ICH7 - Gigabyte had these mobos, for instance;

    GA-P41T-USB3L, GA-EP41T-USB3, GA-EP41-UD3L, GA-P41T-D3P, GA-P41-ES3G,

    GA-G41MT-ES2H, GA-EP41-US3L, GA-EG41M-S2H, GA-P41T-D3, GA-P41T-ES3G,

    GA-G41M-ES2H, and possibly a specific mix of features that you may want for use

    in later OSes could be found amongst them, but suitability for Win98 is unknown.

    This Win98 Topic;

    shows member 'krelian' using a Gigabyte GA-P31-ES3G,

    & shows member 'Lecco' using an MSI P31 Neo V2 [ aka MS-7392 Ver:1.2],

    & shows member 'xRaYer' using a Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L,

    those mobos being 1333MHz, Core2, ICH7, 3 PCI boards.

    [For myself, I'd go for a mobo with an ICH7R or ICH7DH instead, as this may

    allow use of AHCI in later OSes.]

    Cheers

  13. @nostaglic98 said:

    "discovered... ..Asus mobo (P4P800MX) doesn't have AGP... Only the artefacts."

    [P4P800MX = Onboard Intel Extreme Graphics VGA AGP, no AGP slot]

    +Try ratcheting up the amount of video memory in the bios screens.

    Try attaching or directing a fan at or to the large central (Northbridge) heatsink,

    see if that decreases the amount of artefacts at all.

    Any 'store new stock' PCI card wouldn't have drivers for Win98.. 'store old stock'

    might, refer to the OSes mentioned on the box. But why buy new? zillions of PCI

    video cards available 2nd hand...

    I'm hopeful one of our other posters can direct you to the link to the 'sticky's',

    there's one discussing useable video cards for Win98... (I can't see it.),

    @submix8c

    +For clarity; found online copy manual for E521... turns out its bios screens DON'T have

    ANY mention of a setting for 'Disable/Enable USB Keyboard'.. (only USB Legacy setting

    is for Bootable Devices...) possibly there may be some such setting there but 'not made

    visible to end users'. Regardless, a flash using the keyboardless methods discussed in

    previous posts is still worth trying, if a full 512KByte 'recent bios' image can be found.

  14. We are certainly in perfect and calm agreement then.

    Unfortunately submix8c's copy of the bios was a backup copy (and if I

    understand him, not the full 512Kbyte), -so it is not the more recent

    bios that should have the fix for the default option - 'USB keyboard enabled'.

    Search finds no-one except submix8c on these Boards owning a E521.

    Should I whispher it? even those S-L-I-Cer's don't seem to have a full RECENT 512Kbyte

    bios image available either.

    Time for bed. Cheers

  15. (Enjoyed the colour pic, thanks to Trip for that.)

    @thisis1984

    If you have your heart set on THAT unique case, consider;

    'President' - may in fact be a model name.

    'Ancient computer game' enthusiasts e.g. (refering picture), "Invasion of the Vorticons",

    such may also have knowledge of where very old cases could be found.

    Yep, life would have been easier if ATX cases came as easy to open as a

    Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White).

    Incidently, I think some of the pre AT's looked purdy too;

    http://oldcomputers.net/ace2100.html

    http://oldcomputers.net/kayproii.html

    Cheers

    _

    Addendum; Looked up the maker of the board in the magazine article top picture;

    "Willow Peripherals, Inc."

    http://www.tiemann.net/About3.html

    They make, or rather made, video capture boards, and if you look real close at the

    other pics, it seems the gent has captured a pic of himself on the display.

    Then I looked up wimsbios and found this in the AMI bios records;

    http://www.wimsbios.com/aminumbers.jsp

    http://www.wimsbios.com/biosupdates/president.jsp

    and

    a "President Technology Inc" listing in google;

    http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://businessdirectory.bell.ca/CompanyProfile.aspx%3Fmfgcode%3D2011173%26sInfo%3DPresident%2520Technology%2520Inc.&sa=U&ei=9g63UYjBEMXpiAfrtoDQCw&ved=0CBsQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNFb_eYGUn_cqbwFVMEtLwzH7XUDJQ

    Of course, 'President' is as generic as milk. Hope this helps.

  16. Errors like these are also what are causing folks to create duplicate posts since the post takes even though it give you an error that says it didn't so you post again.

    Yep, duplicate post now in Win98/It Works! thread. Tried to delete - no delete apparently (even though no subsequent posters).

    Maybe consider placing a 'DELETE' button, so can get rid of a (duplicate) post before subsequent posters appear.

    [Just for clarity - deleted all text in mentioned duplicate post to AT LEAST make post as unobtrusive as possible.]

    Cheers

  17. bphlpt said;

    "As a general rule, if the computer becomes "bricked" because of a failed BIOS update, the computer is TOTALLY dead"

    Mmmm, EXCEPT I Specifically stated;

    "If the fu-barred computer can still spinup & read the floppy drive" so your comment doesn't apply. Incidently, submix8c

    has described his two systems as "bricked", "fu-bared" and as "doorstop" elsewhere; apparently one totally as you describe,

    the other maybe some life... here's an exact quote, admittedly from weeks back;

    "First one is toast, second one even a PCI->PS2 may not save it since it NEEDS a Keyboard to even enter the BIOS.."

    SO if you have a problem with terminology used, please take it up with him.

  18. @PROBLEMCHYLD, asked:

    "I have never done this, but in case I do, how do you fix something like this?"

    @bphlpt replied:

    "If you mean hot-swapping,"... and went on to give his outline of it.

    +I would add (hot swapping may not be necessary as);

    It depends if the fu-barred computer can still spinup & read the floppy drive. If it

    can, AND you have a BIOS image AND flashing software that understands how to flash the

    image into that motherboards EEPROM (AND understands access method to EEPROM

    through the Southbridge) then you can succeed.

    (Even without a working keyboard!) How? Well like...; working floppy drive, a

    Win98 system disk made using "format a: /S" and take off everything except IO.SYS

    MSDOS.SYS & COMMAND.COM, ensure NO Bad Sectors & Defrag the Floppy disk,

    then place an AUTOEXEC.BAT (onto it) with line awdflash bios.bin /py /sn /cc

    (substituting your bios image filename for 'bios.bin'),

    awdflash Bios flashing software, Bios Image file (a ROM or BIN or such).

    The floppy spins up, is read by the EEPROM bootblock routines, throws to the StartUp

    files on the floppy, which throws to AUTOEXEC.BAT, which throws to the Bios flashing

    software which (with appropriate switches) automatically accesses and flashes the bios

    file into the motherboard EEPROM (without need for keyboard anything!).

    ++ [HOWEVER, note that in the specific case where the original bios used

    in the motherboard specified a }default option of 'Disable USB Keyboard'{ , in this case

    I think that you would want to make sure that you are flashing the bios with a more RECENT

    bios (that should have this option fixed!) to be }default option is 'Enable USB Keyboard'{ .

    Attempting to flash using e.g. an original bios BACKUP, would just put the faulty 'Disable

    USB Keyboard' setting back in. ]

    (Others posting in this topic would no doubt point out that flashing could also proceed

    using a CD Drv, given necessary CD driver files being available on the StartUp disk,

    OR EVEN no floppy drv & a CD drv with CD in it & having filesystem/files on it -as jaclaz

    could explain better than myself.)

    Cheers (P.S. didn't ignore nostalgic98, just addressed him via P.M.)

  19. @jaclaz said;

    "Both PROBLEMCHYLD and myself provided possible alternatives to

    a "real" floppy drive. Nothing more, nothing less."

    +Rather, more was less... your method required a CD burner,

    burner software, burnable disc(s) and a learning curve the OP

    intelligently and politely declined to follow. You are to be

    commended for your eagerness to provide information, however

    simply obtaining a working $5 floppy drive and carefully

    following the motherboard makers directions proved to be the

    'smart' choice. I suggested that course as a result of actually

    investigating the OP's previous posts to see how knowledgeable

    (and importantly how }careful{ ) he seemed to be.

    [Did you try, for instance, to ascertain what motherboard he had,

    which would be very relevant if that motherboard happened to have

    a 'Phoenix Award Bios v6.00PG'? Reference via your own link.]

    @jaclaz said;

    "submix8c"... "provided some further ranting"...

    +Mmmm, like you, I'm not convinced that he has taken all the

    actions (cheaply) possible to get his Dell E521's fixed.

    PM to him from me w/suggestions to follow tommorrow. (PM's to

    nostaglic98 regarding some of his other troubles occupied earlier.]

    @submix8 said;

    "Jaclaz' post #8 is not "magical""... [emphasis] "and is quite simple,

    so why the "trek down that route""... [quotation] "comment?"

    +You should be aware that when you use "magical" in double quotation

    marks, readers 'will' think you are quoting someone... go figure.

    Could you please consider using single quotes e.g. 'magical', so

    everyone realizes you are e.g. merely emphasizing the word 'magical'.

    [i say Perdue University has a lot to answer for.]

    @jaclaz said:

    "Everything seems to me cool enough"..."sprung by magic out of the

    blue"...

    +Yep, which calms us all with the pleasant mental image of jaclaz

    pounding away on his keyboard, (strange scents hazing the air),

    whilst attired in Joseph's Technicolor Dreamcoat.....

    ~Goodnight~!

  20. @Jaclaz:

    No stomping of feet or other such personalizations necessary...

    The method (reached via the post) you cited COULD be utilized by the OP, let's see whether he wants to trek down that route.

    @submix8c:

    you seem to be confused, only nostaglic98 used the word "complete" that you specifically quoted, perhaps readers will take your comments in context of disappointment with your previous, er, non-successful flashes; seriously, please share what specific motherboard(s) did be 'bricked'?

    @nostaglic98:

    Well, make darn sure you make a BACKUP of the bios, how to is described in your mobo manual, p2-4, 'Crashfree Bios 2'.

    Specific information people may want you to tell us: exact Processor you had delivered, everything your BIOS screen shows in CPU Configuration, ditto Chipset, are you using graphics card or plugging VGA cable directly into mobo (has onboard 865GV 'Extreme Graphics 2'), Monitor maker/model (from rear of monitor).

    "How many MB/GB of data should I expect this to use on my internet connection"? :wacko:

    How long is a piece of string? Without even knowing which distributed net app you'll use... (surely that info is given as an estimate on the particular apps webpage?), remember internet provider download plans are like mobile plans, Unlimited DOES NOT mean unlimited, google is the best way to find out which provider is least likely to shaft you...

  21. Jaclaz said;

    "Well, as long as the "quirky" whatever comes as a floppy disk image running

    *any* real mode OS (please read as DOS, FreeDOS or similar) the grub4dos

    or El-Torito boot CD approach will work alright."

    +Ahhhh, but is found long past by maker of UNIFLASH software (eeprom flasher

    software now no longer maintained [but possibly extended by clannish Russians])

    that some motherboard makers use 'non-usual' methods to activate/deactivate

    access (flashing) }into{ the BIOS chip on their motherboards, particularly

    in the case of BIOS chips that are FWH or LPC capable interface.

    Therefore, a same eeprom BIOS chip may be flashable with 'generic' bios flasher

    software in many other different makers motherboards, but fail to flash using

    that 'generic' software in a 'particular makers' motherboard, because that

    particular maker uses 'non-usual' method to flash - thereby requiring that

    particular makers 'flashing software' to successfully flash the BIOS chip.

    To be clear, this may not just be matter of software, but the 'particular

    makers' (e.g. ASUS) 'flashing software' gains its access using 'non-usual'

    method into certain pins of the BIOS chip, which only the 'particular makers'

    flashing software expects/is ready to do (for sure, access methods that the

    motherboards Southbridge is 'set up for/capable of', is additional factor also.)

    (Analogy - most houses you gain access to by 'usual' method through door,

    but maybe one particular house you can't because housemaker disables door

    by locking it and only allows access by alternate 'non-usual' method of

    climbing through window! Why? To force you to use their preferred access!

    i.e. 'their flashing software'.)

    [This is probably getting WAAAAY off topic however.. Jaclaz to explore further

    refer UNIFLASH TXT of need for an "-ASUS" switch in that software e.g.;

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8JkSapB3vjIJ:http://www.rainbow-software.org/uniflash.txt%2Buniflash.txt&complete=0&hl=en-AU&gbv=2&ct=clnk

    ]

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