This is exellent, i've been looking in all the wrong places for al lthis time and just out of pure luck someone asked me where to get the dansoft sig from and when i did a quick google i found all this info right here, thank you! Now to get working on my new signature, "EDIT" Well it seems like my brain has given up on me so what i would like is for someone to help me out if you can. Will someone show me the exact code and files they are using or i need to use to get a signature working? I would be very grateful for the help as i've been at this since my original post time and still it's not working.