yep np thx man yea no ways i'm lowering stuff so i loss performance rofl i'm a tweaker more then anything but i don't over clock. ht*p://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?1907162 3d marks 2001 on winxp with a mx400 Do not post active links...read the forum rules....edit by mod[/color:bab178ecc7]