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SOLVED I give up.
Thank you all for trying to help, I guess am not up to it, sorry for taking your time.
If nlite does not suit you, you can try HFSLIP.
The big different is that you do not need to keep restarting a fresh source everytime you re-do the slipstreaming process. (Nodoby will stop at 1st time only. I'm sure you will come back again to re-slip by adding/modifying/improving the slipstream process mainly for tweaking, adding programs or mistake made etc into the OS once you get the hang of it).
nlite modify your source. HFSLIP don't. HFSLIP create a copy of it and modify from there, i.e. thru the SOURCESS folder. So your source do not need to replace everytime your re-do the whole process.
Having said that, HFSLIP is generally not for components removal. But you can get a decent updated iso (XP with SP3, WPM11, IE8, dotnet framework, your registry tweak, programs addon, etc). Isn't that what majority of us is trying to accomplish? HFSLIP, being cmd-type script, it does not need .Net 2 framework to run.
HFSLIP is no longer supported by its developers (same as nlite), currently the active tread within HFSLIP forum is usually The File-Checker (HFSLIPFC) for HFSLIP
To get started, go to Windows XP SP3 Update-List, maintanined by forum member Mimo. On the left page, click on the link "Windows XP" .
Text search within the page for 'Table 6: Files used by HFSLIP'.
On the first table, download "HFSLIP 1.7.10 beta J v4 " or 'HFSLIP 1.7.10 beta J v5' for the batch script to get started.
I suggested run hfslip to a data drive, not system drive, so that you can retain the existing build and improve on it over time.
To learn more of how to use hfslip, On 'Mimo's HFSLIP Information Site', click on left frame "HFSLIP' and several basic topic to get started (Introduction, Basic-How-To, Advanced Features, Extras, XP SP3, Hotfox lists, Downloads, Changelog)
Hope that helps
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We can continue to debate but an ultimate winner is born. (the op's employer). I do not wish to hanker over it. Life is too short. Let's move on. I know you are a good Samaritan
. I respect your view.Best regards.
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Thanks for sharing your view, jaclaz. Let me recap your view. You isolate the issue to just 'improper procedure followed when making and restoring the images". nite is irrelevant.
Is there a correct procedure or tutorial in this case? Is there some guide out there? It could help others when doing similar things.
Yes, as often happens, OP is an IT technician, I presumed he might not be aware what are the proper tool out there to do this kind of task.
There is a saying 'Use the right tool for the right job". Is nlite the right tool to start off with? Could it be some other tools?
Some suggested tool would be helpful to get people on the proper track... At least some options are available for consideration beside using nlite
I agreed with Ponch "We've always refused to help people using nLite at work." + my own word "whether it is directly or indirectly of nLite usage because ultimately it is intended for home use."
At the end of the day, no matter how you clone and restore images, I still believe the keyword here is "for home use."
Your perspective view may be indirectly helping people use nLite at work, IMHO.
I too would like to stopped here. Just my humble view.
I got high respect for you, for your deep technical knowledge and resourcefulness, for your generous & very helpful hand you give when people come to msfn forum asking for help, including myself.
I, by no mean, on my part intentionally or disrepectfully wish to discredit you in this discussion. Just thought we can discuss something from a constructive point of view.
Hope you are not offended in any way and certainly hope you can still help/advise me in MSFN forum. (I'm a newbie too because I'm not from the IT industry. Computering is just a hobby for me. There are many things I do not know about IT)
Lastly, it is not about who is right or wrong. It's about what is the right thing to do in this kind of situation. From step 1...
I better stop here. Just hope you don't leash out your WEAPON X (a superpower combo by Wolverine in arcade game) on me. (Some lighthearted moment is needed here, I guess)
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I would say that the use of nlite is completely irrelevant and NOT connected to the issue.
Care to share your view why?
My point is as per post #4 - Item 1 & 5
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I spoke to soon after tried the above association and after the cs4 install pro was still the default after running the batch.
@echo off
assoc .pdf=AcroExch.Document
assoc .fdf=AcroExch.FDFDocPerhaps when you apply the above batch, it set association to your host pc, not your client PC.
Try adding the command to the registry instead. Something like (in key 20 I suggested)
@echo off
Set key=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /VE /D "Installing Adobe CS4 Updates" /f
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 01 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\acrobat9pro-EFG\AcroProStdUpd910_T1T2_incr.msp\" /qn" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 02 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\Updates\acrobat9pro-EFG\AcrobatUpd912_all_incr.msp\" /qn" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 03 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\Updates\acrobat9pro-EFG\AcrobatUpd920_all_incr.msp\" /qn" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 04 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\Fireworks-10.0.3-AdobeUpdate\Setup.exe --mode=silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 05 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\Photoshop_11.0.2_mul_AdobeUpdate\Setup.exe --mode=silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 06 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\AdobeDrive_1.0.1_AdobeUpdate_2\Setup.exe --mode=silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 07 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\AdobeExtensionManager-2.1-mul-AdobeUpdate2\Setup.exe --mode=silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 08 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\AdobeCameraRaw-5.7-mul-AdobeUpdate\Setup.exe --mode=silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 09 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\AdobeOutputModule-2.1-mul-AdobeUpdate_2\Setup.exe --mode=silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 10 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\AdobeVersionCue4All_4.0.1_AdobeUpdate_2\Setup.exe --mode=silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 11 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\AME_All_CS4.2_mul_AdobeUpdate\Setup.exe --mode=silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 12 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\DeviceCentral_2.1.1_mul_AdobeUpdate\Setup.exe --mode=silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 13 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\Flash-10.0.2-AdobeUpdate\Setup.exe --mode=silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 14 /D "\"C:\Applications\CS4\Updates\Soundbooth-2.0.1-786\Setup.exe --mode=Silent\"" /F>NUL
REG ADD %KEY%\040 /V 20 /D "\"cmd /c assoc .pdf=AcroExch.Document\"" /F>NULSuggest you let us know what key you are prompt to give Yes/No reply as asked by Yzöwl. Or post the full script for us to get a better picture?
Or temporary remove >NUL from your batch file so that you can see what error message you encounter during run.
Edit: Add
Wait clivebuckweat. On 2nd thought
pls check whether .pdf return same sting (.pdf=AcroExch.Document) after cs4 is installed.
If they are the same then using assoc will not make any different. Need to go to registry to change path to Reader X.
Try changing the program path in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AcroExch.Document\Shell\Open\Command
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I tried on my XP in VM for Adobe Reader X, then install foxit reader. Take some data to check before putting association back to Adobe Reader X
Try this on PC that has Adobe Reader X set as default. To generate a current list of association before CS4 installation.
@echo off
set viewfile=ARX5.txt
assoc .pdf>%viewfile%
Echo=>>%viewfile%
assoc>>%viewfile%
Start "view now" %viewfile%You will see .pdf=AcroExch.Document is the present association (line 1 of ARX5.txt). This is Adobe Reader X association.
Do a text search for 'AcroExch.' within ARX5.txt, you will also notice there are some other file extension associate with Reader X. They are
.acrobatsecuritysettings=AcroExch.acrobatsecuritysettings
.api=AcroExch.Plugin
.fdf=AcroExch.FDFDoc
.pdf=AcroExch.Document
.pdfxml=AcroExch.pdfxml
.secstore=AcroExch.SecStore
.xdp=AcroExch.XDPDoc
.xfdf=AcroExch.XFDFDocIn my humble view , only .pdf & .fdf are necessary. But here you are the judge.
Then proceed to install CS4. After that generate another list as your new file association inventory. Do a comparsion to observe the difference.
@echo off
set viewfile=APro9.txt
assoc .pdf>%viewfile%
Echo=>>%viewfile%
assoc>>%viewfile%
Start "view now" %viewfile%Now to set it back to Adobe Reader X as default, run this batch command
@echo off
assoc .pdf=AcroExch.Document
assoc .fdf=AcroExch.FDFDocDone. Just test by opening a pdf file directly. Hope this helps.
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Thank you. It works great.
After my install of Adobe CS4 I noticed that Adobe reader X is no longer the default PDF application, but Adobe Reader pro is, is there any way to change it back via batch mode so that Adobe Reader X is the default.
Again thanks for all your help.
Have you tried batch command assoc? Already suggest to you over here.
Edit: Add Assoc ref link
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Ok, replace with RunWithParameters instead.
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Tiny tool, which allows running any application with a parameter. Instead of going to the Command Prompt, users can simply right-click an application and enter the parameters in the pop-up window.
Features:
- integrates into Explorer
- remembers last parameters per application
- knows the default parameters of some popular tools
- supports custom filetypes
Context Menu with Explorer Integration.
When right-click, 'Run With Parameters' will appear in context menu for .bat, .cmd, .exe, .msi, .scr , .vbs file type
Default is English. To change language, see [Readme] section of the inf.
RunWithParameters_inf_addon.cab
Size: 105.5 Kb (108,028 bytes)
MD5: 4D7B9A69A46F2548213FA18AD8C79B40
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UPHClean v2.0.49
The User Profile Hive Cleanup service helps to ensure user sessions are completely terminated when a user logs off. System processes and applications occasionally maintain connections to registry keys in the user profile after a user logs off. In those cases the user session is prevented from completely ending. This can result in problems when using Roaming User Profiles in a server environment or when using locked profiles as implemented through the Shared Computer Toolkit for Windows XP.
On Windows 2000 you can benefit from this service if the application event log shows event id 1000 where the message text indicates that the profile is not unloading and that the error is "Access is denied". On Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 either event ids 1517 and 1524 indicate the same profile unload problem.
To accomplish this the service monitors for logged off users that still have registry hives loaded. When that happens the service determines which application have handles opened to the hives and releases them. It logs the application name and what registry keys were left open. After this the system finishes unloading the profile.
In short, help speed up logging off, reconciliation of roaming profiles and prevent exceeding the registry size limit.
Note: Installed as auto startup service.
During uninstall, uses regini.exe to modify registry permission.
And restore to default setting after uninstall.
If you wish to install to an existing system, uninstall any existing version first.
Then install using this package inf-installer. This installer/uninstaller is not compatible with msi installer.
UserProfileHiveCleanupService2.0.49_inf_addon.cab
Size: 109.94 Kb (112,577 bytes)
MD5: 670FA81C3BF21A0517F6DE1F906A468F
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I'm an IT Technician, but this has stumped me, he knows i'm doing it and he's fine with it, now any chance of some helpful advice?
It's not about 'Your employer' AUTHORITY. As your problem all boiled down to nlited image, the correct authority is still 'nhui' AUTHORITY. If every person thinks like you and deploy their nlited image to corporation even though all hardware are identical, then it goes against nhui spirit that it was intended for home use only. Hope that make sense.
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Glad you made it. But as part of 'post-mortem' review on the general troubleshooting step taken, I am curious to know if you have shutdown 3rd party services as I suggested in #29 when you are trouble-shooting all this while.
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I'm not sure exactly what they show, but I was surprised how similar they are.
Anything catch your eye as being out of the ordinary?
I have re-sort the list in Excel so that you might a better view between the file difference for the 2 users account (Dave & Admin).
In the Excel sheet, look at the Compare tab.
For example, (Dave in D:\WIN-NT\Explorer.EXE process) the following files are what Dave account have and Admin account don't have.
dot3dlg.dll
MCPS.DLL
MSISIP.DLL
OneX.DLL
pwrshsip.dll
WINSTA.dll
wmpband.dll
wshext.dll
xapauthenticodesip.dll (related to silverlight)To help you find these files at large in your system, I suggest install Everything Search Tool.
Just copy & paste the file name in it's GUI. Very fast search. Instant.
(Everything Search tool is for NTFS drive only, useful only for User with admin-right.)
Other thoughts:
One of the possible cause: ClearPageFileAtShutdown
Understand a bit about shutdown
Meanwhile, here are some info if you wish to apply some tweak to speedup shutdown.
Perhaps try to reduce your NTUSER.dat file size by using CCleaner to scan your registry for rubbish/junk entries. (Observe Pre /post file size if you want to clean them, made a backup registry first.)
Have a batch file to monitor the filesize of NTUSER.dat over a period of time everytime you logon and logout.Record to a text file as log file. If file size exceed certain size, say 20%, then you know some special / unusual activity has taken place. So that you can be alert to investigate. (Just an idea...not really sure if it is practical)
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Base on winlogon image in #19 by MagicAndre1981, you can get a list of dlls opened by msgina.dll using ListDLLs v3.1
Then generate a list of dlls to investiage. Basically, dlls that are non-MS is highly suspicious.
@echo off
Listdlls -d msgina.dll>Mylist.txt
Listdlls winlogon.exe>>Mylist.txt
Listdlls explorer.exe>>Mylist.txt
Start "view now" Mylist.txtAlso look into services.msc to disable 3rd party applications. (Launch by Start -> Run -> services.msc)
That all I can think right now....
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Just an idea (I dun really know)
Read this tool, maybe can help you.
You can attempt to install normally .net 4, which will likely generate error log file.
Use the verification tool & post your error log at the link given (in comment's page)
Hopefully you get some reply/ answer from there.
Regards
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Updated to v5.0.2.718
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You can try assoc.exe
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You can convert .reg to .exe using Reg2exe converter or use autoit to write the script and convert to exe. (The own idea is to use exe file, then you won't have a problem)
Hope that helps (FYI: I'm don't use WPI)
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Hey this unfortunately does not add anything in the registry on WXP and W7.
I converted it over to the proper 7-zip SFX format and it gives 0 errors, but doesn't work:
;!@Install@!UTF-8!
OverwriteMode="1"
RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c \"%APPDATA%\\WhileIdle\\WhileIdle.exe\""
RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c \"reg add \"HKLM\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVersion\\Run\" /v Whileidle /t REG_SZ /d \"\"%APPDATA%\\WhileIdle\\WhileIdle.exe\"\"\""
InstallPath="%APPDATA%\\WhileIdle"
GUIMode="2"
;!@InstallEnd@!Thanks
I'm sure, beside giving you a working config.txt , you would like to know why your own config.txt is failing and with no error.
Just a quick tip: Use Process Explorer from sysinternals to see if your own silent installer is hang silently
As in your case, whileidle.exe is started but your silent installer expect it to close before proceeding to execute the reg add command. Hence you do not see any registry added.
Also to add troubleshooting your own config, do not use hidcon:
Wait until you build your config.txt and tested fully functional, then start to hid those console box.
There is a slight error in my own config provided. I missed out the /f in reg add command. Running it once, it's okay. Running 2nd time, will hang. So modify as follow:
This is a functional config.txt, not as best as gora's config.txt. The whole idea is to keep it as close to your (skEwb) original config.txt as possible so you'll appreciate what went wrong.
;!@Install@!UTF-8!
OverwriteMode="1"
RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c start \"NowaitStart\" \"%APPDATA%\\WhileIdle\\WhileIdle.exe\""
RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c reg add HKLM\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVersion\\Run /v Whileidle /t REG_SZ /d \"%%T\\WhileIdle.exe\" /f"
InstallPath="%APPDATA%\\WhileIdle"
GUIMode="2"
;!@InstallEnd@!While on this thing, perhaps we (all users of this great tool) could share some common tips that can help user avoid mistake that user generally made. This way we learn faster & better in understanding/appreciating this tool capability & its limitation. (I hope these tips can make it into the help documentation eventually)
What I see right now is some user who have config.txt problem just doesn't know what to do or doesn't have a clue what went wrong.
Thanks for reading & Cheers
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Hi skEwb
Try this alternative
;!@Install@!UTF-8!
OverwriteMode="1"
RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c start \"NowaitStart\" \"%APPDATA%\\WhileIdle\\WhileIdle.exe\""
RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c reg add \"HKLM\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVersion\\Run\" /v Whileidle /t REG_SZ /d \"%%T\\WhileIdle.exe\""
InstallPath="%APPDATA%\\WhileIdle"
GUIMode="2"
;!@InstallEnd@!0 -
Creating bootable CD/DVD/USB disks from ISO 9660 image files.
Passcape ISO Burner was developed for creating bootable disks from available ISO images. PIB is compatible with the majority of CD/DVD recorders and USB devices, (including Memory Stick, Compact Flash, SmartMedia, Secure Digital, USB flash drives, USB ZIP drives, USB Hard Disk drives, etc.) The application's Spartan interface is ultimate-simple and oriented toward the inexperienced user.
Features
-Write ISO image to CD/DVD or USB disk;
-Create bootable disks (including USB ones) from ISO images;
-Extract ISO images to disk;
-Simple user interface;
-No installation required, the program does not write anything to your hard disk or registry
I have since switch to this app for my hfsliped's iso. Burnt fast & works . (previously using Nero 8 mirco)
PasscapeISOburner130_inf_addon.cab
Size: 316.24 Kb (323,832 bytes)
MD5: 9032CBAD2F97B1B523E2D20800B1CAA3
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This is repack like svcpack addon program.
Edit the cmd file within (delwallpaper.cmd) and recab back. Slipsteam like any progam addon. The cmd file will execute at T13.
Will host for 7 days for earlier, whichever is earlier
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Defragger v2.07.346
Use Defraggler to defrag your entire hard drive, or individual files - unique in the industry. This compact Windows application supports NTFS and FAT32 file systems
The following install option are configured:
Add Start Menu Shortcuts
Add Defraggler menus to Windows Explorer
Replace Windows Disk Defragmenter
No google toolbar
Default is English. You have to change to your own lang in the inf. Instruction in inf, [Readme] section.
(Tested only in English XP]. Suggest to test in VM first.
Additional info: If it is English platform, all language files are not needed. Which you can save further diskspace.
It requires you to edit manually the inf.
Defraggler2.07.346_inf_addon.cab
Size: 1.08 Mb (1,132,288 bytes)
MD5: F5C6D5DCA9350DEA0DA396F5A576B987
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It took a snapshot of my system okay. But after installing an application, it failed trying to create a new database ("Could not create new Installwatch database"). It's running as administrator, so I don't think it's a permissions issue... anyone know how to get around this?
Just curious what application is that? Post a url if possible.
As far as I know. It is not possible to capture extension ending with msi . You need to repackage to exe using tools such as winrar or 7zsfx tool.
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. I respect your view.
Inf files + Batch files
in Programming (C++, Delphi, VB/VBS, CMD/batch, etc.)
Posted · Edited by Geej
Try changing to
Edit: remove quotes surrounding %16422%