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Nero 9 Completely Silent & Unattended - The Easy Way
Step 1. Extract / Stooge / Accquire the install folders (unit_app_#) etc (easiest way is to start the downloaded installer, then open My Computer, navigate to your TEMP folder, open the NERO.TMP folder and you'll see it there, if you don't see the UNIT_APP_## folders, you're in the wrong place, otherwise copy ALL The files and folders you see into another folder
Step 2. Identify and remove any UNIT_APP_## folders you don't need (that's right just delete the folders for the apps you don't use, don't edit them out of the XML or anything)
Step 3. Edit the file SETUP.XML so your product key apppears between <Prop id="SerialNumber"> and </Prop>
Step 4. Write yourself a batch file to run
SETUPX.EXE /qb EULAACCEPTED="1"
This is exactly how I did my completely unattended install. My install folder is now no more than 480Mb (about half the size of the original, and will fit on a CD)
Below is an example of what a trimmed, unattended install folder should look like. The one below installs Nero Burning ROM, Nero Vision, Nero Wave Editor and Nero Cover Designer. Deleting the other folders seems to be OK as the SETUP.XML file is only parsed by the installer and compared to available packages. If they're not there, it just doesn't display them.
Also, in the codebox, you will see the file "Activation.REG". This is nothing more than my product keys which I have exported from the registry (HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\NERO\SHARED\NL9). The .REG file is then imported to the registry upon launching the SETUP.BAT file which I mentioned earlier.
Directory of B:\Installation Sources\Nero 9
Activation.reg
ipclog.exe
SETUP.BAT
setup.xml
setupx.exe
<DIR> unit_app_16
<DIR> unit_app_17
<DIR> unit_app_30
<DIR> unit_app_4
<DIR> unit_app_5
<DIR> unit_app_61
<DIR> unit_app_69
<DIR> unit_tpi_directx-9c-redist-d3dx9-30
<DIR> unit_tpi_imagxpress-7.0.74.0
<DIR> unit_tpi_lightscribe-1.14.17.1
<DIR> unit_tpi_msxml-4
<DIR> unit_tpi_vcredist-x86-2005Sp1
<DIR> unit_tpi_windows-installer-3.1Below is a list of the UNIT_APP_## folders and their relative components as per MY downloaded installer
unit_app_4 Nero Burning ROM
unit_app_5 Cover Designer
unit_app_6 Nero Express
unit_app_10 Photosnap
unit_app_12 Nero Recode
unit_app_13 Showtime
unit_app_14 SoundTrax
unit_app_15 StartSmart
unit_app_16 Nero Vision
unit_app_17 Wave Editor
unit_app_19 Drive Speed
unit_app_20 Infotool
unit_app_21 Rescue Agent
unit_app_50 Disk Copy Gadget
unit_app_57
unit_app_64 Movie Templates
unit_app_71 Nero Live
unit_app_30 [b]is essential, do not delete it[/b] (it might be safer to leave everything else that isn't an identified app package in the install folder, or you might screw things up.You will also see some UNIT folders with HLP in the folder name, these are no more than Help files and documentation for the apps, delete these as well if you don't need them.
To trim the fat down even more, it appears you can safely remove the other languages from inside each of the UNIT_APP_## folders, i left nothing but ENG files in mine.
Kudos to everyone from this thread, with all your inputs it only took me an hour to sort this out for myself (slow I know) but no one else seemed to be looking at the bigger picture of trimming and admin-installing, but here's the whole hock. Nero 9 with 55% reduced fat!
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Cool thanks, i'm so dumb, i shoulda thought o that, sorry for wasting space on the forum guys LOL
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Hi Guys,
Straight to the point, every disk I've nLited and burned has been 99.99% functional. The 0.01% is a minor bug I've seen in each release of nLite since about the time of the arrival of SP3, I can't remember which build of nLite it started with as I constantly re-download and install the latest version every time i nLite.
The bug is as follows:
Select Brisbane GMT +10 in time zones under the Unattended installation section
Install nLited XP with no problems
Time zone ALWAYS seems to "default" to Kabul time
Am currently having to manually re-adjust the time zone to Brisbane +10 after each install
This bug absolutely pales in comparison to the almighty AWESOMENESS that is nLite so keep up the good work Nuhi
Following scenarios tested after setting Brisbane +10 hrs in Unattended
nLite under Vista Ultimate x64 = Kabul time zone
nLite under WinXP Pro = Kabul time zone
nLite under WinXP Pro, in MS VirtualPC 2007, under Vista Ultimate x64 = Kabul time zone
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Problem Solved!!! for me anyway....
Everything I tried failed, my RTM simply cannot accept an integration of SP3. You name it I tried it. So what did I do?
I borrowed my friends XP Professional SP2 retail disk, integrated SP3 via command line in Vista, then nLited with the same SP3 preset i made for all my other disks. And Voila! instant, working, SP3 integrated XP disk. Can integrate key to installation or install without a key and use either OOBE activation or Microsoft key changer (from Windows Genuine website) to update to your key.
Funny thing tho, even my Home Edition RTM SP0 accepted the integration....
*command to integrate: [extracted SP3 path]\i386\update\update.exe -s:[xp source path]
eg: c:\SP3\i386\update\update.exe -s:C:\nLite\WinXPPro
* Vista command prompt shortcut: goto the folder where you want to start your command prompt, eg, C:\nLite\WinXPPro, hold SHIFT on your keyboard, Right Click in blank area, choose Open Command Window Here
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just a quick question... did you install the drivers for the floppy disk only? or did you set up the Floppy Disk Controller(s) as well?
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Command-line slipstream failed as well, still can't enter any keys (legit or not), can't do anything with it.
A thought comes to mind, I did download my SP3 from the WU Catalogue, guess I (and maybe some other people) got a version that's simply NOT meant to be integrated.....
X86-en-windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-enu_c81472f7eeea2eca421e116cd4c03e2300ebfde4.exe
File Description: Self-Extracting Cabinet
Type: Application
File Version: 6.2.29.0
Product Name: Microsoft Windows Operating System
Product Version: 6.2.0029.0
Size: 316Mb
Date downloaded (From WU Catalogue) 25-04-2008
Language: English (United States)
Host for command-line slipstream was Windows XP Pro SP2 running in MS Virtual PC 2007
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The following actions were taken on the hosts below
*Downloaded 1.4.5.5
*Installed 1.4.5.5
*nLite'd SP2 (latest build I could get from MS website) into XP RTM SP0
*nLite'd SP3 (final from MS website) into above SP2
nLite'd disk still not recognizing any keys (legit or not), or allowing to leave the field blank
Host machine 1: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1
Host machine 2: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 - nLite running in compatibility mode for XP SP2
Host machine 3: Windows XP Pro SP3 (non-integrated) - running in MS Virtual PC 2007 x64 (only XP machine i really use is a virtual one LOL)
about to try command-line slipstream for SP3 directly onto RTM image then re-nLite it will keep you posted
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ok ok ok, here's $20, go buy a clue instead of flooding your OWN THREAD with messages, and here's another $160 to learn English Gramar. See? that's $180 Australian dollars that i could have donated to the forums, instead noooo, i had a few beers and saw this thread \:|
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You mentioned that you're trying to "upgrade" the laptops. Do you mean you're doing a repair install? Do the laptops already have Windows installed?. This problem usually pops up when certain CD/DVD burning software alters the registry, you may or may not have heard of the "upper filters" and "lower filters" sections. Disk authoring software alters these files and shreds whenever you try to run an XP installation. You need to modify the registry to remove these entries and windows should then go through just fine.
The following link may not be 100% true to your bug, but in the past has given me the resolution to several PC's and laptops that wouldnt' do a simple repair install.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311755/en-us
The link shows you where in the registry the bugs are and how to fix them.
Otherwise, try doing a clean install from your nLite disk
LOL Dammit, i should learn to read, then learn to re-read, i just saw you mentioned that you weren't even getting to the format drive part, yup something was definately stopping your system from reading the disk, I wonder if it's possible that even in TXT-mode, setup still reads the existing registry for the disk :-?
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Well, with all the testing I'm doing it makes it a pain to have to wait for SP2 and RyanVM's Patch Pack everytime
The answer is then simple. Create a source, integrate SP2, label it as a SAFE source on your drive, create a copy of that source anytime you wish to nLite it. It would seem not that many people are too familiar with the "presets" for nLite.
Eg. I've nLited SP2, then used that source to work from. I then use every section of nLite to tweak the install the way I want it. BUT every step of the way, i'm saving the PRESET to one I've created (i don't rely on LastSession's). So whenever I actually have / want to nLite the disk again, I create a copy of my SAFE SP2 source, and load my PRESET. Which prefills all the work I did last time, then I add in any new hotfixes / drivers / addons.
SP's are always a little bit time consuming (except on my dual core rig
). But having SP2 pre-integrated into a source that I'll never over-write means I don't have to wait for it, usually reload my preset (which includes over 90 hotfixes from the Update Catalogue), add what I need / want, tell nLite to get to work, and go make a coffee and please the missus for 10 mins or so (sorry for the bad sex joke ) )Long story short, YES definately use a clean source (at least the latest SP you want) but people really REALLY need to be more aware of just how powerful the presets are, afterall you can make hundreds of your own. I personally have one for each of my XP's, Home, Pro, MCE etc etc.
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I've added the "Royale" theme from Windows MCE into XP Home and XP Pro, and *hmmm thinks* now I'm wondering if I can do it with vLite to put it into Vista LOL.
All I did was copy the .THEME file and the folder for the theme to a folder on the PC where i nLite'd my disk, then in the Unattended settings, I simply used the Themes section to add the Royale theme from the folder I copied it to, set it as default, and reinstalled windows.
The difference being my Royale theme came from MCE you're trying to get it from Tablet PC, I've never played with Tablet PC, but the basic principle might be similar
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Any ideas??
Do what I do, put the CD in, tell nLite to load it from the original disk, it'll ask you for a place to store the files it's working on. I don't bother manually copying the files to my drive anymore. If I really REALLY need to do it manually, i've always got my XP disk sitting on one of my many drives as an ISO file. UltraISO will just rip the files back to a folder in seconds.
Also as Ponch pointed out, make sure you're not trying to make nLite read your installed windows folder (c:\windows)
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What I have listed is the following - Administrator + Administrator/Computer Name, All Users, Default User, Local Service, Network Service, "User" + User/Computer Name
Sounds to me like your re-installing in an existing windows directory, or at least not from a clean drive. Whenever you run an install for XP and choose to leave the hard drive alone, you're going to get a whole new windows folder, but, when Setup gets to creating the folders for users, seeing as they're allready there, it'll simply duplicate the names, then add ".<computername>" to the end of it. Example "Administrator.HOME3298732".
I've read solutions before that go somewhere along the lines of renaming the "Documents and Settings" folder before the install.... but that would mean somehow getting into an unprotected DOS mode or something, as windows won't allow you to rename the critical folder.
In a nutshell, here's what the Windows Installers' tiny tiny brain is going thru.
Windows Installing -> create Documents and Settings\Administrator -> folder exists, creates folder Documents and Settings\Adminstrator.HOME3298732
*NOTE: .HOME3298732 is a fake name, this would be replaced by the name of your computer*
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Hi guys!
I tried this on my vLite'd Vista Ultimate x64. I really wanted to integrate the Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 so I don't have to keep screwing around and installing it. The thing is though, even by following the above instructions and renamingy it to a .RAR file (only format that would open and display a folder tree), I can't find any *.CAB files inside the original archive. WinRAR itself says the orginal archive is a CAB file, so I renamed it to <randomlettersandnumbers>.CAB, vLite still can't recognise it as an update. Even though it came direct from my <SoftwareDistribution\Download> folder.
I haven't yet seen any other updates for my system after installing SP1, so I dont know if I'm doing something wrong, or if WMDC 6.1 just can't be integrated.
Anyone have any ideas?
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You can turn off driver signing for good in one of three ways:
1. gpedit.msc
2. Registry
3. Or you can use the command line switch in an admin command prompt.
Or you can keep doing F8.....
Would be interesting if anyone has yet been able to get any more information on disabling Driver Signing using the above mentioned "Registry". I've been hunting, but then again it's not my field LOL
The following KB articles (and are part of windows update) will disable the ability to /set the loadoptions to ignoreKB932596
KB938979
From my understanding, one of those two "fixes" for Vista also corrupt the folder creation and renaming process, the general recommendation is not to install them in the first place
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If you're referring to the TXT mode portion of the setup, I'd say it's a driver that you've added. Other than the numerous amount of missing files by drivers (these i believe are caused by non-DOS compatible names such as "nvidia dos.txt") I have only ever had one other problem with TXT mode saying the HID file was missing (same under fully installed XP GUI), this is fixed by using the "Merge" option in the nLite-ing fase.
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The version of the XP SP2 Executable I used was originally downloaded probably a year or two ago. Its "product version" is 5.5.1005.0 and the XP SP2 OEM CD is less than a month old. It's product key is still valid and installs fine.
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I would think the answer is simple, if you don't want to install RAID control, don't bother with integrating it. Your motherboard CD will more than likely have native XP SATA drivers, if it doesn't chances are you don't need them. My answer would be simply don't worry about integrating SATA drivers. - Unless of course XP Home doesn't natively support SATA controllers.....
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If the PC has not picked it back up, try going to your control panel -> Add New Hardware Wizard, see if the computer picks the device back up. If it doesn't then no loss. So long as it doesnt affect the operation of your computer, there should be no harm, best to save resources by not loading un-necessary drivers / services than loading them and not utilising them. On the same note, if you wish to use the archaic RS232 Serial ports, make sure they are enabled in the motherboards BIOS settings.
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Any number of faults can occur in XP (and the XP install) with the incorrect storage controller drivers being loaded / not available
I'd suggest creating a new nLite'd XP install and customize it for your new motherboard.
Integrate SP2 and the drivers off the CD for the new motherboard.
Then try again.
P.S. Just a matter of preference for me, but I usually choose to remove all but my local languages and regional settings from the disk. Saves space for other integrations. - Also, it's worth loading an original XP (and .NET) just so you can utilise nLite once again.
P.P.S In the future, you may also want to "upload" your last session.ini files, instead of posting them as txt, just to save space and readability of the forum.
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PROBLEM SOLVED!!
I'm not sure what the problem exactly was, but, re-integrating SP2 fixed it.
Everything now integrates and runs fine, both Txt Mode and GUI installations go thru 100%, hope this helps anyone else with the same problem.
Funny thing is the original was an XP Pro SP2 OEM disk, nevertheless reintegrate and it's problem solved
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Just an update...
I've just finished another test-image, WMP11 and Unattended - Works fine, integrated IE7 into the same image, and waddyaknow, still getting VMem error. Am out of ideas now, hopefully somone can help.
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I'm pretty certain I can get this going too, minus the hotfixes, I'm about to try yet another nLite-ed disk, but only integrate drivers and do the Unattended, will also post regarding this attempt.
This is the first time I've ever had a *major* problem with nLiteing, so I'm also going to try other original sources, and see if it's nLite or the OEM disk
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I'm pretty sure I've seen this glitch heaps of times, don't think it's anything related to nLite.
I've seen this on installs from original disks, about one in 5 PC's i've worked on show a device called "Serial" under non PnP devices which has the "!" beside it. Jus like you, I have to tell Device Mangaer to "Show Hidden Devices". All I usually do is right click and remove the device in Device Manager and reboot, the device always seems to load from then on.
Keeping in mind, this device only ever shows as "Serial" and may not be the exact device you are talking about.
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). But having SP2 pre-integrated into a source that I'll never over-write means I don't have to wait for it, usually reload my preset (which includes over 90 hotfixes from the Update Catalogue), add what I need / want, tell nLite to get to work, and go make a coffee and please the missus for 10 mins or so (sorry for the bad sex joke 
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Silent install Nero 9
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Maybe try without the /i and /q commands first to see if the installer you have, has the option to choose the ENG language, or at the very least what language is chosen by "default"
/i command uses default values, which is probably why your regional settings are taking preference language wise (remember the apps are still installed via MSIEXEC.EXE)
Also, your command switches show that your telling it to only include the English language, sounds to me like the installer is using your regional settings as a default value, then your switches are removing everything except english language, perhaps the installer is tripping over and failing to actually install anything?
The installer is probably going thru this:
1. /i switch -> Install Nero with default system language eg.korean
2. INCLANGUAGES="ENG" -> tells the installer to not include anything but an ENG language pack
3. which equals -> Korean install, minus Korean language = faulty app
This would end up making a Nero App folder, which has been told it's Korean, but does not have the Korean language pack, which means the programs will be trying to load a Korean app but failing, as the INCLANGUAGES="ENG" switch has removed the Korean language packs
I'm not sure if this rings true, but in my warped li'l brain it's a possibility