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Totally... the ram usage jumped from 6megs free after boot up to 12megs... I am more than willing to drop it down to 95... I got the CD somewhere of OSR 2.1 (I think) any other suggestions?? what version of winamp would work best on this little puppy??

good links... good ideas.... The request for small footprint applications stems from me wanting the code to run properly and easily on a 32meg or less box... I have heard about Delphi before (Win3.x shell replacement called Calmira was written with it).... any more information about it?

I was given this lil' laptop... It is a Gateway Solo 2300, 32megs of ram, 800x600 LCD, external CDROM, 2gig Hard Drive. I have attempted to upgrade the ram unsuccessfully... I think I got bad ram... It has an internal floppy (now I finally got a machine with a floppy drive!) I currently have my weird 98SE installed on it (more info in autopatcher thread), and Autopatcher 1.5-1.6 (yeah, I'm behind).. Here's a list of what I've done: Autopatcher 1.5 & 1.6 update IE 5.5 full install FireFox 1.5 full install Open Office (latest version... haven't tested it yet, but it installed flawlessly) K-Meleon full install Java (latest 9x version advertised) Azereus (latest 9x version advertised) Uninstalled Java Uninstalled Azereus (resource HOG!) Installed Shockwave Flash plugins Installed RAM Booster (kick a** proggie that is *still* around) Win98Lite Removed IE 5.5 and changed shell to no web integration (but not the 95 shell) Okay... so now what? I have tried using ProgMan as the shell (to save actually a LOT of RAM compared to standard explorer shell)... it was a pain... I can't find an app to auto-create program groups and items from folders (can go the other way; make progman items and groups folders and icons). The clock battery is shot (actually, all the batteries are dead). What I need to know is: Smallest, faster web browser for forums and gmail.com Best light weight shell (pref one with a proper system tray so my wifi card works properly) DOS-level scandisk and defrag (I forgot how to trick 98 into using the DOS versions) Any other tweaks I should do. A BitTorrent client that works well on 32megs ram total. I know that Beniot will suggest 95. That's great. But please tell me the rest of the apps to use on 95 to fulfill my needs... (web browser, office suite, bitTorrent client) Oh yeah, I also installed a couple of pinball games... Man, pinball has gone to crap on newer pcs... The harddrive has 32,000ish bad sectors... I got a spare I can use if/when it dies... And the Win98 versions of scandisk and defrag can't complete from lack of ram... This little machine is pretty cool, and I want to keep it alive for testing software and whatnot... (I also want to fiddle around with my weird 98 cd... no probs other than a browseui.dll error... and that was resolved by autopatcher somehow!! Sweeeeeeet) TIA!!

Well, I'll see if manually killing the spooler let's it shut off properly... know of a way to kill a loaded process from a bat file?? or of a DOS-style command to do that in 98? I could make a fake shutdown patch for this particular PC...

Howdy! I been trying to code a few little things here and there lately... trying to gear up for something decent enough to actually share with the world.... I have been learning VB.NET 2003 in school last time I was there... so I was wondering if there is a language that would make smaller footprint apps... a *very* basic app (187k supposedly) takes over 16megs during runtime... and I dunno what vbrundlls are needed to use an app from this verison on 98.... So I'm wondeirng if there are any decent free programming languages kicking around... the more documented it is, the better... and a guide for a VB developer crossing over to this new language would kick butt. I don't know about VB6.0 I mean, I got LOTS of books on it... but no CDs...

Howdy! I got a stickler of a problem... one of my clients (the same one that keeps me comming back here), has a small network of 5 towers... One is the 'server' for all the apps and whatnot, and another is the 'print server'. Problem is, no matter how I power up/down the machines... or whether we even PRINT something... The 'print server' won't shutdown... It gets *real* close, but not 'off'. I don't care about it, but my client wants it fixed. Sooo... I moved the printer to another machine (the only original box left in the shop), and set all the pcs to print to it... No more problems... EXCEPT- The printer compains about the ink cartridges.... constantly... it doesn't seem to save the settings past a reboot... The printer driver (HP 672c??) doesn't support networking the printer directly- what I mean is the driver is buggy for a network install (it just don't werk!)... and I have scoured the net for a better version of the driver... I am already using it. I was thinking of just replacing the printer... but I need to make **** sure that the towers will shut down properly... I also have an issue with which tower is browsemaster... I can set the 'server' to browsemaster, but there's still times when the network forgets what PC is what... And I know it is linked to this browsemaster thing because all the problems with the network directly were resolved before he moved the printer to the other box... (the PC that *had* the printer then is the tower that wouldn't shutdown all the way... no other problems existed then.) So... what settings do I have to manipulate to get these towers to stop changing the browsemaster? It seems as though having a 'master' with files, and a 'non-master' doing the printing is buggy... Should I make them BOTH a 'master'?? I think that would cause other issues... If I buy a new printer, and it supports 98SE directly in the drivers it comes with, shouldn't the PRINTER issues go away? and if it doesn't, can't I call the printer company up for assistance? What towers should be browsemaster(s)? I thought the server should be (it is powered up first anyway)... Oh yeah, and the client discovered if he actually PRINTS something (from any PC to the 'print server'), the tower won't shut down... but if he opens the software he printed from again, and does NOT print, then close that app, and shutdown... it will work fine. Ideas? Thanks in advance for your help!!

Thanks for the updated links... snagging them now...

Well, either way... I got it through BitTorrent and I am currently seeding at 156k/sec to 5 different people.... Like I said, if anyone needs something shared, I'll contribute where needed... I will be taking this offline periodically, but whenever this pc is on the files will be shared... I know this is a 98 area... but like others, my primary internet machine is XP.... and I figured those sharing may benefit from that info... See ya **Sticky this thread please...**

can someone please post this QEMU package with some default settings applied? FOR WINDOWS? I have been searching and searching... I don't have the time and effort to "learn LINUX to use QEMU"... Like, what's the stuff about 'accelerator', how much of that info is applicable to the Win version... etc... tia

can someone refresh these links? I'm interested in trying this out, but repeated virii from my personal search for this has me asking for u to... mebbe I'm just too dense to find a 'good' source, eh?

you guys comlpaining about speed... if yer on XP SP2, u need to patch the outgoing connections back to a higher number... If you haven't **manually** patched this, it ISN'T patched.... XP used to limit the outgoing connections to 65,536... SP limits that to EIGHT! Tht's right, 8. as in, less than 9, more than 7... Patching this makes BT **much** ***MUCH*** faster.

All I read so far is problems with seeders.... I'll see if I can get my 15megbit connection sharing some of these files... will report back later if I need more info or assistance.... BTW~ Just ask, I can share whatever you want.... (within reason)... I use Azeurus (spelling?), and no sharezza stuff.... or emule/edonkey.... See ya, will join the seeders when I finish DLing....

okay..... so let me see if got this straight(er): Alpha - skeleton supporting all functions (in theory?) Beta - bug fixing of implemented functions (*no new functions??*) So, by that definition... I don't see how we could ever get out of alpha... Is the solution to define a smaller set of functions? I don't understand how we could alter this project to that... Help us flesh out the specifics of this aspect!! Many thanks for help!

Howdy! I am just wondering (because of personal confusion) what are the various liscenses and restrictions for open-sourced software? I'm just looking for some links, but if you wanna cut and paste some definitions, that's cool too. Sorry this is clearly not the place to ask, but since we have so many packages here I thought the developers could help me out with this.... Thank you!!

Here's something to try... open progman.exe... it is in your windows folder... next time it locks up, go ahead and kill explorer.exe progman.exe can be your shell... and then just go to file... run... and browse to explorer.exe to get your start menu back... Here's something you should do... Go to folder options and click the "open new windows as a seperate process" or whatever the option actually is (it is close enough to figure out)... this way, the start menu and desktop is a seperate process from all the other explorer windows... it uses a little bit more ram (I think), but can be slightly more stable this way.

Did I fail to mention that the available version at least gives you a decent web browser?? Firefox... heh... and it also has loads of freeware/open-source software included in the install... roughly 30 minutes from start to finish and you got a 'patched and updated' as well as many of the standard software you'ld think an OS should include... We *are* working on hardware issues... please post any/all you encounter!! What I am working on currently is a new logo.sys and a replacement welcome.exe program with a few 'custom' functions... I initially wanted to just create a sort of splash screen, but now that the basic flow of the program is there I want to take it much farther... What I know about VB I thought was real basic stuff, but amazingly those tiny basic things actually seem to be capable of being strung together to actually accomplish something!

EDITED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY!!! I read this after I posted it... let me clarify, I am **not** mad, upset, angry, or anything at all... hope the PROPER tone and emotion is conferred now... text can be so misleading with English... now if I only knew another speakable language... Disclaimer: I am not in a position to actually say anything at all about development... I ain't no spokesperson or anything at all... just my personal views and $0.02 Um, now I am confused... Why do you say it isn't 'working' at all? I thought the point of BETA meant that at least the majority of the controls are there... and if that was the definition, then Jackhammer should be out of Beta... You see, I am *totally* confused by that statement... I have it currently installed on two towers now, both are running great. But, neither has working sound though (it's a bug we know about, but are working on... I think....) Besides that, this kid has done a bit of coding from my untrained eyes... Yeah, it is pretty dirty.... but once again, isn't that part of being Beta? I have done extensive testing of Jackhammer with exactly ONE set of current hardware, and I have not had the video problems... We hope to have an option or two in the beginning of the install to toggle certain options on or off.... such as the swapfile usage (and size) and various other tweaks... Oops, did I fail to mention I have jumped on this wagon with NL-Stitch?? I'm helping him to flesh out certain elements... I had many of the same thoughts of roughness and whatnot, but the bottom line is even my non-existant VB coding skillz are helping out on this project... It is *quite* a large plate for one 17 year old... and he has already been graded on it (if I'm not mistaken, it was back in the first week of December...) We have both been working on adding a few more of the basic features this type of a project requires... Perhaps the problem here is that he/me/we could be 'off' by what BETA means... Also, we don't do nightly or weekly 'builds'... this project is too large (over a gig) to support that... we are also working to restructure the install code to streamline it better... copying a partition is a good idea, but *quite* unwieldy... He knows that the published Beta is pretty crappy... he was hoping that people would see the possibilities though... We have *much* bigger plans for this project, the Beta that is available should perhaps be labeled "proof of concept" instead? Please provide better guidelines as to what constitutes a "beta" for purposes of this board... (specially since this place is sorta 'peer-reviewed'... I honestly don't know what guidelines are 'standard' in this industry) The current available package of the project is perhaps best described as a basic skeleton at worst, and a partially animated corpse at best... this is, of course, with the understanding that the goal is to fully re-animate the corpse that is Windows 98SE and breath life into it once again... To attempt to provide a stream-lined installer for Windows 98 including every major update official and unofficial, as well as some GUI improvements and some extra 'punch'... The default password is a throw-back to Linux/Unix.... what is the most powerful user on a workstation? OR.... what is C:\ en example of? or what part of a tree is in the ground? As far as your video card install issue, can you please provide your motherboard chipset and video card info? It seems as though NL-Stitch has left a few hardware register keys in that should have been deleted... this might be your issue... (methinks the standard vga driver is included in the install and is your problem, or at least is related...) Most important thing to remember is that some of the 'quirks' are intentional... in the finished project it won't be 'quirky', you'll just have to wait and see... Keep your eyes peeled for an update in the near future... or at least some news about an update... ::working on getting translation, BTW::

is the problem in the XP installer not allowing FAT32? Or what? bootdisks.org has bootdisks for every MS OS... download MEs or 98SEs to get an FDISK that can do it properly.... oh yeah, you also need to run FDISK first!!!! AND REBOOT AFTER FDISK BEFORE FORMATTING!!!!

PsycoUnc, sorry you discovered the whole problem Win98 faces... What mods have you made with the video drivers? Can you get a larger power supply? If you can get enough power for the fans, you may wish to try overclocking the hell outta your video card... The problem here is specifically the fact that newer cards have a different DX support version... Have you tried using Source with DX7? DX8? or just DX9? This may further assist you in getting a few more FPS outta that box for THAT game.... have you looked at any MODS for SOURCE? You may be able to find a basic _unsupported_ gfx mod to make it work better on that PC... what I mean, is the graphic files may be the culprit- 98 may not directly support the package of the gfx, and thus cause greater lag (DX language doesn't match up? no problem, I can use the CPU to add the language... and the frame rate drops BIG TIME) If you can find a replacement _BASE_ gfx file(s), perhaps this issue will resolve? I mean, since you say this is the point of the machine, why not try modding the software instead of the machine?

Did anyone step up to the plate on the actual point of this thread? I literally just waded through the garbage to try to find the answer... where the ***k is it?! Does anyone here care enough to become part of the solution instead of complaining? I don't program, but if there's ANYTHING I can do, sign me up dammit. Come on people!!! Where the hell is your AMBITION? The wrapper idea is awesome, as it is the method most of the user-created packages work... and it would be able to provide dam near 100% compatibility.... Keep ^---- that idea alive.

and this statement proves your ignorance of how the Microsoft business model works... 03-27-2006, 03:43 PM Super Mario Limp Gawd Super Mario is offline Quote: You really advocate yanking support a full year after a viable new OS has hit the market? (I say viable because 2000 wasn't a viable OS for gamers.) No, thanks. No I didn't say that about any OS. I was referring to that about WIndows 98/ME because they suck. However, Windows XP deserves to stick around for a LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG time after Vista is released because Windows XP is still an NT based OS and NT based operating systems are fine and still native to the same OS heritage Vista will be based on. END QUOTE____ You see, you don't realize that if we give in on 9x, then the next is 2k, then XP.... You can't condone or cry out for the quick death of an inferior OS... eventually YOUR OS will be next, and your choices in condoning the actions of today dictate the actions you won't have a choice in in the future... BTW, inferior is a personal value... you can't expect ANYONE to share that same personal value... take some basic psychology, and you'll open your eyes a bit more my brother... The world is not what you believe it to be... don't become part of the machine that is destroying us all in the name of advancement. Think of who actually will get to reap the benefits of the world you hint at... how will certain goods be manufactured if over 60% of the factories just stopped working because of an old OS at the helm? You speak of stability issues... well, the industries still use it regardless of your/the world's ideas. Who would swoop in and take over for them? NO ONE. What would happen? Some form of ANARCHY would. Your views match many others in history... albeit in a round-about way... Hitler (supreme race... um... supreme OS correlation? death to unworthy OS? death to unworthy Jews?) Bush Jr. (we will rush into Iraq and kill their existing governement because we don't agree with it... let's put our own in place! The people don't like it? tough sh*t, we got more numbers... sounds like your argument on the other board...) Brother, you got open eyes... now just start to look AROUND you... don't believe the d*mn hype and media... use that big ol' brain you got in there... Evolve or die doesn't apply anymore... we have surpassed what we require for our societies, now where do we draw the line on the advancements? A famous person once said something to the effects of: "Old ideas + old tech = old problems (we know about)" "Old ideas + new tech = unforseeable events" Substitute "ideas" for "ways of doing things", and it applies better here... the larger point on this issue is that we have all we need for business... now why should we kill it off in the name of progress?? **WHOSE** progress????

Sorry to resurrect, but this guy Link really p***ed me off.... Dude, in the link you sent in the first or second post, EVERYONE TELLS YOU THE SAME THING. Oh yeah, and if thye pulled ALL SUPPORT for 98SE AND ME in 2002 WHERE THE HELL WOULD YOUR PRECIOUS WIN2000 BE NOW?!?! It is 2007, and I bet you probably still wish some new piece of code could run on your W2k box. You may have the general gist correct, though... The software compoanies shouldn't be tied down by their customers... I mean, who the hell do the CUSTOMER think they are??? Demanding a product that they can USE. Sheesh... Listen... just stop for a second here pal... You have a good general idea, let an old OS die already. But you have to take into account the REAL WORLD. Microsoft would LOVE to kill 98SE off, and any other 9x cores... And yes, they tell us that it is needed to support newer technologies. I am *not* arguing that those types of statements come out of MANY developers of commercial software... BUT. THE REAL WORLD. Yeah, not the business world. The REAL world. I am the administrator at 5 different businesses, all of them are FORCED to run 9x. Most of them would LOVE to upgrade. Find a way to jack a TRUE DOS, WITH 100% ACCURATE RS232 EMULATION. If you are so stubborn on your views, then why not find a way to actually **HELP** your views come to pass? It would be quite easy for someone that can invest apparently 3 years to bash a 'dead' OS.. Just make all the software that so many commercial factories are forced to run (you know, CnC Machining, etc.) actually WORK on a Win2K system. Do this, and you will have the holy grail... This is the ONE reason why 9x can **never** die. I didn't say it CAN'T die, I said it can **never** die. We can't allow it to die. How much industry would be stopped in its tracks? Yeah, 9x is soooo horrible. We got soooo much better OSs out there to use now. But dude, your 2 year old posts show your age and your brainwash level. Methinks you should watch the pirates of silicon valley... You see, us in this forum are more like the Steve Jobs in that movie... or mebbe Steve Woznyak (spelling), since we don't do acid here... but if you do, fine... just keep your frizzled, rainbow aura ramblings to yourself. Bill Gates is evil. Please ignore that sentence; don't flame that particular statement. Because we are *forced* (for whatever reasons, personal, financial or other) to use the older OS, we demand assistance. It isn't our fault (or my clients, for that matter) that M$ has a MUCH more ambitious upgrade plan that us (or even you, for that matter). Back in the 80's when many of these businesses I work with was founded, DOS was the king. The CnC machines run a modified DOS 3.3 core. It is impossible to upgrade the machines' OS. These guys paid over $75,000 for EACH machine. What does that cost now? $275,000. Will the 'new thing' work on NT-based stuff? NOPE. Do these people upgrade the woftware on the interface computers? NOT THE OS... Hell no, can't touch that... The creation software is upgraded... and it STILL has 'modest' requirments... The '3D Printer' machine software will run on a P133, 16Meg, 20MegHD... The most intensive software, the actual object creator module, it requires at least a 350Mhz, 64Meg, 250MegHD. And we *have* tried newer hardware than those specs... it isn't any faster dude. Why upgrade when you get absolutely NOTHING? Dude, you also need to think about the first point in this post... If we killed off 9x *that soon*, what would keep M$ from making is SHORTER? What does the word MONOPOLY mean to you? Rethink that definition... If we give M$ the power to shorten OUR OPERATING SYSTEM to a life of 5 years OR LESS... then 85% of the computer-using world wouldn't be users! You think money is just magically there to buy all new hardware in every business, every situation, just to use the newest version of a bug-riddled OS? Did you ever think that some of us on 9x may have made that choice based on the track record? How long before XP is opened enough for similar projects to be undertaken... We got people here trying to write hardware drivers. We got people CREATING updates. WE GOT PEOPLE PATCHING M$ MISTAKES BETTER THAN THEY COULD. Why the hell would the people of THIS FORUM... THIS ONE, the 9x ones... Why would we give up all of our community driven projects that PROVE older M$ software is still usable and sometimes MORE STABLE WITH OUR UPDATES? Why start all over again? And as long as projects like KUP keep going, we could use 98 well past XP's lifespan. Oh yeah, and if you think I am some uber 98 lover... I use XP Media Center *everyday* on my own computers... and the only thing I prefer in 9x over others is the fact that if it runs at all, it is running at max speed. Why the hell does 2k and XP have some crappy IDLE? Because the newer hardware can't actually run at the speeds they advertise... it does BURSTS... not continuous. Older stuff doesn't do BURST so much... older stuff grants the USER access to USE THEIR HARDWARE. That's how I'll end this... Sorry for the rant, and all that... but this thread was all about this guy, and I really couldn't bite my tongue after actually reading his posts on other sites... this is one of many responses from another site that supports the REAL WORLD... not a bunch of teenagers that just got washed and rinsed by the Gates militia... *** 04-09-2005, 08:08 PM ***hu********e *** ***There are still millions of systems running those OS's and for that reason alon ethey should still be supported.. *** ***Just like SJConsultant said I also have a large number of customers whose software is perfectly fine and in fact over kill for what they are doing on systems that ***are 6+ years old.. *** ***manufacturing is a prime example... If a machine just needs to move from point a to b then why change but if it need so talk to printer c then ............. Dude, in a perfect world it would be perfect. This ain't perfect. Instead of spending YEARS complaining, why not become part of a solution? I *know* all of us would *love* to not ****NEED**** to use 9x... Fix ALL OF THE PROBLEMS that each individual person (which adds up to at least 120 in my circle of friends) has with upgrading. Surely, someone who is so wealthy to create such a load of crap in their spare time has enough money to buy them all the newer hardware they NEED to WORK.

um.. got confusing there so I apologize for my 'tip' if you've already tried... Did ya check the jumpers on the drives? Are they set properly? One master, one slave per cable. If they are, your power supply may not be large enough to support the extra drive... that's why you needed a Y-adapter... If the power supply is at least a 250watt (I think, please correct me if I'm wrong), it shouldn't be part of your problem though.

snagged, but still untested... thank you *very* much.

yeah, WU is a tricksy beast... couldn't you just add a text file on the desktop detailing which updates aren't needed after this is installed? that's the only confusion I have about this, buddy. pass that this way, my tumors hurt... ::cough cough::