DeadDude

Hmmm, you don't have access to Google? http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/03/09/us...x-from-windows/ http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/04/02/qe...ent-slax-linux/ http://www.pctechtips.org/QemuSlax.htm http://unix-tutorial.blogspot.com/2008/04/...linux-slax.html jaclaz hmmm... brain farts and fuzzy morning eyes shouldn't mix with hands on keyboards.... coffee.... Thanks

Thanks for the heating tips! as far as the clock losing time and whatnot- the clock didn't just lose time... it gained time, too... while watching it... and the little I had read online about 'idling within a VM" led me to that conclusion... Let me ask ya, you can't see how this could ever cause hardware problems of any sort? Before it happened to me, I used multiple VMs on one machine... got multiple Linux VMs, Mac VMs, DOS VMs, and then I also run multiple emulators within each VM.... 2gigs ram can hold a whole bunch of 64meg VMs... (seriously, no one can see this happening?? I *really* don't think heat alone is what killed it- I took it for granted the timers got all screwy)

Thank you for that response! I had a hard time nailing down what it was that *I* did before in that situation... I was to the point of simply repeating every single step just because one of them was the one that made it work right. Rolenet should be able to troubleshoot the issue now.... I gotta bookmark this for later...

well, I enjoy the quick talk about my p4 burning up... so I'll try to make this short... *I'm not saying 100% CPU usage killed a CPU* The clock in the virtual machine as well as the actual 'real' clock both started loosing time. I didn't really care, I had read somewhere that could happen and is normal (but, that I should use CPUIdle or similar). *I'm saying an improper virtual machine on improper hardware can cause hardware timing issues that can and will break CPU and/or Motherboard* I'll see if I can dig up a link... I specifically said 'let's talk about it' because I want to know for a fact what the masses have to say... since it seems pretty clear cut that my cpu burned up during the burn-in... but the CPU had no heating issues before-hand. (mind you, it didn't stay cool in the first place ~65C after all my programs are loaded and running; peaked at ~72C full load). briefly- is it safe to assume 74C is the max temp any cpu should reach (in a tower)? Intel book says 84C is the absolute breakdown temp (cpu forced shut off), so I assumed my temps were fine.... I had another machine just die, it satyed consistently 68C-72C (74-76C a few times briefly). not trying to stray too far offtopic.... I haven't used QEMU in about a year... did they speed it up a bit? the older version was too slow to really 'run'....

hmmm... do you have a link to that stuff?? I'ld like to look into it some more.... beginning to seem like this UBCD I got is really "ultimate"... I like. Thanks ThyDreamWalker

it is worth a shot; that is what I have had to do on other systems with similar setups....

I started reading, and gave up... my reason for holding onto 98? I like knowing that my hardware is running full bore. If I got a 2.8Ghz cpu, I want to be able to USE the whole 2.8Ghz for a single task. try doing that in xp. you got 15 things *always* running.

WARNING running 98 on Virtual Machines can cause overheating. you *will* need CPUIdle or something similar for the emulated 98 box... otherwise you almost definately will run into heating a priority issues (the emulated 98 box does NOT have an idler... and the emu uses the idle ticks to prioritize the emu to the real machine) While it *will* run.... if you notice incorrect timers on the emu, you **need** CPUIdle software for the emulated machine.... I burned up a p4 2.8Ghz that way a few months back... had DOS in a VM, and was running a 'burn-in' proggie... left in on overnight, and in the morning it was dead. power ok, just dead. then I read about the idling problems when using a DOS based OS in a VM (all 9x are DOS-based for this comparison). And if I am somehow wrong... hey, I'm just trying to help out. I *know* my burnt CPU was from this... you can have your own opinion.... actually, if you think I am wrong... let's talk. I never had this happen before... and it has scared me off of playing around with 98SE on my main machines...

what protocol are you using to communicate with the NAS? while I do not have a NAS, I *am* interested in setting one up... the specs say the harddive cannot be larger than 4 gigs. how have you configured it through http?? you ought to be able to use the device's IP address to directly access it through the network- no server software needed. http://192.168.0.whatever/ pops up user name and password prompt. fill it out properly. DO NOT CLOSE THIS BROWSER WINDOW. go into a different standard explorer window (not IE). type that url (http://192.168.0.whatever) and hit return. You should be in it now. I do this all the time to get into broken networks on 98se. how many partitions are on the hard drive? what is the filesystem on the hard drive? It **has to be** FAT32. did you create a user profile for the 98 box on the NAS? you have to use an actual password on the 98 box to get it to work... the 98 login name and password has to match the settings for the NAS. I remember 98 didn't like my network back in the day, because I used individual passwords for individual folders on my network... eventually it all fell down and I had to use the ONE name and password for my entire network (just so I could get a new XP box to work properly with the 98 client also attached) interesting that the day I choose to do this myself, someone posts a problem about it....

? edit post won't allow you to toggle email replies ? sorry for a wasted post just to get that box toggled....

huh... that's interesting to know... hmmm... I'm going to have to read that one... again. interesting, nonetheless.... I wonder if a network boot could be utilized to pass-off control to a local USB drive... the network drive stays connected, but the machine won't crash if the network boot drive is removed after bootup... just thinking... but it *is* off topic.... Aight... I give... I goofed... but re-reading it... I know what I was trying to say... you can use nLite to make a smaller, slimmer, more 98-pc friendly version of the install (not to mention, it is the easiest way I know of to manipulate XP install media.) THEN use PE Builder to compile it into a live CD. Methinks it may be possible to exploit nLite's ability to patch the installer to modify the usb drivers for this purpose... I mean, couldn't you just tell XP to forget USB exists?? Use a boot-time loader to enable 'legacy usb'... I don't know any specifics, but it may be possible using this approach... just seems like if you could get the actual booted OS to forget about USB entirely, the 'real-mode' drivers should be able to still communicate... just load them before the OS... also, if the machine you are trying to find a vm for is somewhat current... why not reverse it? boot XP natively (or 2k) and run 98 in a window? THYDREAMWALKER- can you elaborate? I never looked into UBCD having that feature....? sounds like it would be a solution for me possibly....

I have often wondered.... couldn't a floppy disk be made to boot off the USB device? the same way that older machines use a floppy to boot the CD? Also, why can't you make a special bootable CDROM to passoff to the USB drive? Knoppix loads off cd, and then you can tell it where to put the 'temp' files (instead of eating ram). Do you want to run XP inside of 9x? Or simply see XP on that machine? You can use nLite (I think) to make a live XP cd... have you tried that?

Well, I got this little 98SE laptop (p166MMX, 48megs ram, 3gig hd, 800x600x16bit lcd) that I've been 'burning in' for the last 2 weeks... no hiccups, no shutdowns, no lockups. I've been playing Age of Empires, SimTower, SimCity 2000, and browsing the web on it wirelessly (using seamonkey). The only hiccups are on flash pages (cpu too slow for it properly- NO YOUTUBE!!!!) I must admit, I am **very** suprised it is still running... Back in the day, my first 98se machine (p150, 476megs ram) once ran continuously for a month... and that machine was a firewall/Tribes game server. I could 'serve' a game and also take part at the same time on the same machine.... at the time, it was revolutionary. Longest I've ever seen a 98SE box run? over a year. PTEC St. Petersburg. Where I got my first bit of training... Computers for the Community rebuilt machines for needy homes... and their server was a 98se box.

What game are you trying to run? OpenGL is used for the 3D screensavers that come with 98... do they run? If they do, then you probably don't have enough graphics memory for the particular app...

All right... I been away forever and a day... but I can't let this thread pass me by.... Win9x Pros: Direct hardware access (people still use 98SE because it is the ONLY OS that supports this. (like DOS) 32bit and 16bit compatibility (try getting XP to play that Win3.1 game) Viruses and malware can be removed from OUTSIDE the OS. (DOS boot disk?) Three Finger Salute shows all the newer baddies. Most newer baddies cannot even drop their payloads properly. (read someone else's comments for an anecdote) Updates are lacking. Why is this good? Once you plug the **** hole, no one will be there punching another hole. W2k/XP Core Pros: Indirect hardware access (malware technically shouldn't be able to bring the machine down through a hardware fault... real world claims otherwise, though) More robust memory management (seriously, it is good. Rambooster is not needed on XP, I wouldn't use 9x without it though) A tighter core. (could be wrong, but it seems to me that the w2k core is just 'better') 'Proper' user accounts implementation. not even mentioning Vista. Now, I can look at those W2k pros, and I only see ONE that actually matters in the real world.... memory management. the user accounts simply make the techs work harder to pull virii out. Also, does anyone that is reading this thread know about the ntfs driver for DOS? I have an emergency boot cd that has a DOS NTFS boot option... and it WORKS (for reading at least... don't write though, it'll break!) I have used this boot cd to boot into DOS on an XP machine to pull a virus out.... it gets complicated pretty quick though.... Then again, that's why I **STILL** use FAT 32 on an 8 gig partition for my OS! Put the reg entries to move all the other system folders to my 250Gigger... AVG runs on 98??? What version???? Spybot on 98??? The newest one? I've been outta the loop for months on this...

500watts... 7 fans... 8600gt video card... um... have you tried unplugging the fans and running cooling from an outside power source? may sound dumb... but you never know... I have seen a pc with 4 fans, and antec 700 watt power supply... same issue. it was the power supply (psu's have become hit or miss as far as I know). Or.... Is you video card crapping out? 60C is pretty warm... shutting down and hitting power a few times before it 'takes' could also give the hardware enough time to drop 10-20C (depending on situation and scenario). Try a different video card maybe? If you didn't know, 100C is 212F (214F?)- water boils at this temp. I wouldn't expect an 8600 to take 75-80C for more than 5 minutes perhaps... nor would any other component maintain integrity at these temps for any length of time. I don't know Eve Online....

how does this lock the folder? I mean, does it rename it? or make it encrypted, or what? If I use this on a flash drive, lose the drive... could someone else get the data back out easily? keyword is easily. Could a virus scanner actually scan inside that folder and fix stuff? Sounds like a way I could stash install exes on client pcs...

double post whoops!

Um... whatever took out the mobo may be still lurking...? I don't know.... sounds like the power supply is failing on the one hand (doesn't explain the issues when the drive was moved)... but on the other it sounds like the motherboard drivers are not properly installed (the screen issues sounds like the right driver isn't installed). Not to sound condescending... but did you load all the drivers from the motherboard CD? The drivers included on the XP CD do not actually work for a LOT of hardware... the default drivers loaded into XP are very basic, and could cause those issues with video.... typing issues? sounds like the motherboard drivers aren't loaded.... is irq sharing enabled? look in device manager, is anything sharing the irq with your keyboard? Is the keyboard USB or PS/2? If USB, then check out your USB drivers... Give me more information... what motherboard you using? what video card? what other peripherals? how large is the power supply (watts) and what brand/model? have you tried replacing the hard drive, forever? Still thinkin' this is a power problem... not enough juice to write the bits.... try booting up with no keyboard, mouse, lan, or anything else (floppy, CD/DVD, etc). Same problem? Might not be power then...

Um... why are you considering WinFLP? What OS are the laptops currently running? I did a little research... and WinFLP is not a general purpose OS. Have you installed it onto one of the machines in question? Does it actually support what you *need* it to support? Aside from not having certain features like hibernate or suspend, it also doesn't support a great deal of software (from what I have seen). WinFLP is based on Windows XP Embedded. EMBEDDED. The OS actually doesn't expect to ever be changed; it is available in a ROM. More specifically, WinFLP is intended for remote desktop- NOT actually running software locally... although the specs claim it is intended to run business software, you cannot even install Office (no support for half the functions). I have no data on whether Open Office will install. You need to make absolutely sure that your required software works FLAWLESSLY under WinFLP. That also includes PLUGGING IN YOUR DATA AQUISITION CABLES AND DONGLES and 'using' whatever exotic hardware you use with said cables. If your guys need laptops in the field, it should be safe to assume you do 'exotic' stuff generally. Example: Your guys use laptops to test out Air Conditioning equipment. --Install WinFLP and everything you need. Drag the machine to your office A.C. Plug in everything. Load up software. Actually receive readings from the A.C. and test against another laptop with your original, confirmed working setup. Exxample: Laptops are used for creating decals. You create the decal on site, then plug laptop into big industrial decal printer thing. --Install WinFLP and everything you need. Create a decal. Plug it in. Make big industrial decal printer thing print it. It is imperative you understand how thoroughly you **need** to test the setup before you worry about getting hibernate to work on it. If you do not fall under my fears above, then why are you considering WinFLP? If it is simply for support from Microsoft... it is your call.

You also need to know that a key from XP Home will NOT work on XP Home SP1. SP1 keys don't work on SP2; nor do SP2 keys work on SP1. Yer key has to match the version (SP1, SP2, no SP; retail, oem) Did you back up anything from your previous Windows install? Not data files, but like the system32 folder (it is a long shot, but one of those files may have a revision or date to help figure out what version you had) I run into this problem all the time... client has XP Home (or Pro) and has lost their CD. They borrow someone else's CD to reinstall with... their key doesn't work. SOLUTION: Go through all the prompts during the install. When asked for key, call microsoft (use the number the activation wizard gives... don't know it off-hand). If someone knows the phone number for activation, then you'll be all set. When you do call ms, tell them you bought the machine used with XP installed. You had the machine previously booted up and online; you've updated the OS, passing every genuine test. A virus took down the OS, and you are reinstalling from the CD the machine came with. Tell them you pulled the key out with a tool like RockXP you got from a tech at work. I do not know how much of what I said above isn't actually what happened, but I call ms about once a month for a client with a similar story (the actual scenario is extremely similar). You have to watch your wording and attitude when you talk to a real person at ms. If they suspect at all that it is an illegal install, or that you may be an actual pirate, they will tell you to purchase a new copy. You get ONE shot at this phone call. ONE. Call again, and you could be blacklisted (not sure about this, but it is a good rule nonetheless). Good luck. This is one reason people pay me $75 to reinstall XP from their cds.

does the w2k eula say no more than 2 cpus? if so, then you can't run a quad core on w2k... that is crazy. then again... 4 cores with w2k could be called crazy by some....

link to QuickView for DOS http://www.multimediaware.com/qv/ EDIT:: Hmmm.... I've gone through the site... says it does NOT support DVD playback... odd... I could have sworn this was the app I used.... Looks like I might have to do some testing to confirm or retract that statement... I thought all I had to do was rename the .vob to .mpg I could be mistaken with what software I used, though.

Oh, and have you checked out EBay for anything you could use? You can search just for Chinese results.... (I have no idea what the market is like for China... but at least the shipping would be less/easier, right?)

update?? (I hate peeps posting problems and not posting the conclusions... got me in suspense...! )