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Those builds are originally for my private use and they are released because of my goodwill that I think they may help others. This bug doesn't affect me and so I don't have big intention on hunting and fixing it. If you want this to be fixed you at least need to find when the problem started to occur. and last but not least, stop gaslighting.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251206-3219d2d-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20251206-3219d2d-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251206-3219d2d-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251206-d849524bd-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251206-d849524bd-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251206-d849524bd-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251206-d849524bd-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251206-d849524bd-uxp-e4afc5655b-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2489 - fix `color-mix` implementation. (103bd151c8) - Issue #2847 - Update tests and toolkit CSS to account for `windows-win11` (becf65d05a) - Issue #2869 - Make Purple Buffer additions check if cell is tenured. (34d1d5a650) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - layout: restore xp theme names in test (c80b9fc1ea) - ffvpx: update ffmpeg to 3.4.14 ( https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/commit/9983d098ff0ee54bc3b77676dd885883bfbe4ffb ) (83cd56dfbb) - nss: update certdata and bump ckbi version to 2.82 (d8a03301d4) - dns: update effective_tld_names.dat from https://publicsuffix.org/list/public_suffix_list.dat (e27800bb2a) - icu: update timezone data (cb88bccc0a) - security: update EV root data (c417312184) - icu: import backport of ICU-20558 (Fix regression in DateTimePatternGenerator) (dc67193fba) - icu: if langTag is empty, point it to root.txt as well (9e8e5fbd83) - icu-data: regenerate with icu_sources_data.py (e4afc5655b) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Release: https://github.com/LordOfMice/Tools/blob/master/nvme9x.zip https://github.com/LordOfMice/Tools/blob/master/nvment.zip https://github.com/LordOfMice/Tools/blob/master/nvme2k-src.zip readme: NVMe driver for Windows 9x. Base: nvme2k 1.0.0.2 https://github.com/techomancer/nvme2k Changes: Port for Windows 9x, 64-bit LBA & Fixes 1. Generic - added SCSI 64-bit LBA commands processing (large drives support). Tested on Windows 9x ONLY - fixed controler shutdown code - speed up of command queueing and it is less CPU consuming - fixed enormously low speed or false positive errors on executing of large size requests - various code rectifications 2. Windows 9x specific - port with 2 bug fixes - install script nvme9x.inf written Install and uninstall as usual hardware, nothing specific.

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20251206-23f410065-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20251206-23f410065-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: Issue #2489 - fix `color-mix` implementation. (103bd151) (1791c6a30) - import from UXP: Issue #2847 - Update tests and toolkit CSS to account for `windows-win11` (becf65d0) (bb4464dfb) - import from UXP: Issue #2869 - Make Purple Buffer additions check if cell is tenured. (34d1d5a6) (be165adf3) - ffvpx: update ffmpeg to 3.4.14 ( https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg/commit/9983d098ff0ee54bc3b77676dd885883bfbe4ffb ) (c182ca3c9) - nss: update certdata and bump ckbi version to 2.82 (db7a51891) - update timezone tld and ev root data (58e09f3c7) - icu-data: regenerate with icu_sources_data.py (868997718) - icu: import backport of ICU-20558 (Fix regression in DateTimePatternGenerator) (72c196bdb) - icu: if langTag is empty, point it to root.txt as well (23f410065)

Notice: although there are some commits in upstream which worth importing, I'm mentally affected by fire news happened in Hong Kong lately so new build will be delayed (i.e. no build this week)

StartAllBack 3.9.18

FFmpeg update. XP: static shared libfdk-aac VISTAx86: static shared libfdk-aac

This thread is about @roytam1's browsers targeting legacy OSes. And that means even browsers under Windows 7 and Windows 8 as they are also legacy in the meanwhile. But I think @Zorba the Geek is looking for a solution under Windows XP.

I didn't realise there were so many still using SP2 (why?). I will consider building the next version with PyInstaller 5.13.2 again. But do note, that in the future that may not be possible any more, due to the changes they make. Consider upgrading to SP3. In the meantime, here is a build that should work on SP2. @davidz, Do you really mean you're on SP3? Because in my SP3 machine (VM), 2025.12.06.064237 works fine: [debug] Command-line config: ['-v'] [debug] User config "C:\Documents and Settings\Nico\Application Data\yt-dlp\config.txt": ['--rm-cache-dir', '--console-title', '--add-metadata', '--embed-thumbnail', '--convert-thumbnails', 'jpg', '--js-runtimes', 'quickjs', '--ppa', 'ffmpeg:-metadata synopsis=""', '-o', '~/Bureaublad/%(title)s.%(ext)s', '-S', 'res:1080,vcodec:avc,acodec:m4a', '--sponsorblock-remove', 'all', '-N', '6'] [debug] Encodings: locale cp1252, fs utf-8, pref cp1252, out cp1252 (No VT), error cp1252 (No VT), screen cp1252 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nicolaasjan/yt-dlp@2025.12.06.064237 (winXP_x86_exe*) [debug] Python 3.11.4 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-XP-5.1.2600-SP3 (OpenSSL 3.5.2 5 Aug 2025) [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg N-121824-g775b102182-WINXP (fdk,setts), ffprobe N-121824-g775b102182-WINXP, phantomjs 1.9.8 [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.2.0, certifi-2025.11.12, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.5, sqlite3-3.50.4, urllib3-2.6.0, websockets-15.0.1, yt_dlp_ejs-0.3.1 [debug] JS runtimes: quickjs-2025-09-13 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets [debug] Plugin directories: none [debug] Loaded 1853 extractors Removing cache dir C:\Documents and Settings\Nico/.cache\yt-dlp ..

@Goodwin @roytam1 I'm not a professional, I just compile Mozilla based browsers for my personal use and hope for the best. For instance, I'm trying to compile Firefox 13+ with Windows 2000 compatibility. One thing that sometimes (but not always) causes runtime execution failure is clicking on tools -> options -> applications which can cause an error in MSVCR71.DLL. Also, after reverting the commit that broke Windows 2000 compatibility, I had a minor problem that is caused by opening a new tab, and the message displayed on the new tab page was relating to an invalid address. That annoyance was caused by the commit for Mozilla bug 728429, which mandated ASLR on Windows. In order to find that, I had to cherry-pick a range of commits between the one that broke Windows 2000 compatibility, and the one mandating ASLR, then compile the source code a few times to narrow down my search. The point is, if a problem does not exist in one of roytam1's browser builds, then exists on a later browser version, the right thing to do is find out what the last good version, and the first bad version is, then it would be easier to find when the problem started, and what commit caused it. Also, it is possible a bug might not affect everybody.

If you ***REALLY*** want your video playback looked into, it's kind of ON YOU to do some LEGWORK in NARROWING IT DOWN. *Shoot the messenger* all you want. But that really is the reality of the situation. We (you!) need to tell roytam "playback WORKS in this month-day-year release, but it is BROKEN one week later with the month-day+7-year release".

Notice: seems need some more time on ironing out front-end (win11) related revs from upstream which hopefully can be done in xmas, but UXP related changes are in and hopefully new build (without those front-end changes) will be available this week.

this site uses await, which is filed in https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues/2229

Totally understandable; sincere condolences for the loss of life of so many of your compatriots ...

The problem with posting new topics should now be fixed.

Thanks as always to a thoughtful writeup. I'll add my own slight additions. I myself have not "installed" any software for the better part of two decades, I do as much as possible via PORTABLE applications. PortableApps.com popularized the use of portable software. They began in 2006. WinPenPack has actually been around for slightly longer (by mere months, not years). You go even further back (by years) when you include those of us with familiarity to UNIX. With regard to associations with protocols/files/applications, portable software isn't really about not having these associations, but rather having exact and precise finite control of these associations. This PRECISE CONTROL is really only limited by the user's own intentions/imagination. You really can have this PRECISE CONTROL be as simple or as complex as your heart desires. Your "host system" does NOT have to have *ANY* 'default browser' associations, no txt file associations, no ini associations, no pdf associations, no mkv/avi/mp4 associations. NO ASSOCIATIONS of any kind. But you can mix-and-match to your heart's content. Associate 'browser' protocols (http/https/ftp, for example) to all use Firefox *ONLY IF* PortableApps PLATFORM is running in the systray. But roll those ftp protocols over to something like CuteFTP *ONLY* if LiberKey is running in the systray. Split your media file associations so that audio files divert to VLC Player, mkv files divert to PotPlayer, mp4 files divert to Media Player Classic, and avi files divert to TEncoder Video Converter. "Portable" really can be as simple or as complex as you "need it to be".

IIRC, the "nonsetup" zip versions were created for "special" cases (namely WinXP machines without all SPs and/or partially updated), where the provided ".exe" installers wouldn't run; FTR, the first "*_nonsetup.zip" release asset saw the light of day with the 124-r4 release: https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/releases/tag/v126-r4 As posted by NHTPG, these are NOT "portable" packages; Supermium "portable" packages were once offered as part of a paid for Patreon subscription: https://www.patreon.com/posts/supermium-122-r2-103469536 If you don't mind the registry being written to, a simplistic "portable" approach would be to write a "Sm-Portable.cmd" batch file: place it adjacent to Sm's main executable (chrome.exe) and ALWAYS launch Sm via that (you can alternatively create a Windows shortcut with the same cmdline args) ; be mindful: "portable" apps are NOT meant to be associated with other protocols/files/applications etc. ...

I assume that @Zorba the Geek is looking for a client targeting Windows XP. However, your recommended email client Betterbird requires at least Windows 7 64bit.

Yes. Install it from the Mozilla Add-ons page! For example the British English Dictionary (the only real English ): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/british-english-dictionary-2/ Here is a screenshot taken from my Mypal 74.1.4 installation:

Understood, but @Tripredacus was consulted on this occasion, and agreed that no further action was needed in this case. That will not always be the case of course.

Yes, I filed a complaint this morning (it was already "deleted"). Instead it's maybe better to use a PrivateBin instance. https://github.com/PrivateBin/PrivateBin

Once again, learning a lot! I don't use R3dFox to watch DRM comment, so I didn't even realize R3dfox had disabled DRM. As you say, shades of Pale Moon. All the niche browsers combined aren't going to force YouTube et al. to abandon it! And I agree that the correct way to deal with the issue is to leave the DRM supporting code in the browser, and just disable it with a pref, which can then be re-enabled by the user if desired. Finally, I do consider VMP evil, and understand that niche browsers like R3dFox will never support VMP. But as long as there are sites that impose DRM but don't require VMP, we should still be allowed to access those sites. All that said, though, I still appreciate having R3dFox on my "ancient" Win 7 PC and will keep using it for the ever-increasing number of Web sites that flummox Serpent.

https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Chromium-for-windows-7-REWORK He made few reworked versions. It also can support XP and Vista without extended kernels

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20251206-40a79c75-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20251206-40a79c75-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20251206-id-656ea98-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20251206-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-e4afc5655b-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

StartAllBack 3.9.19

no clue, check for upstream if problem persists. (but remember, youtube pushes AV1 content which is too heavy for old machines.)

Makes sense; if Z was the last to have been loaded in the tab when that tab was closed, why do you expect otherwise? After all, the browser feature is called "Recently Closed Tabs", not "Recently Visited Sites" ; however, a closed-tab's history isn't being deleted (it's saved in session data); re-open the tab with site Z on it, then use the back button once to revisit site Y (or twice for site X, etc.) ...

Hi, I just make a nice hack. I get a lot of Arduino nano for 67 Cent from China. They work under Win10 but not under XP SP3, "Unknown USB device". I use the Arduino IDE ver. 1.8.9 portable, means no installation. It has the exotic USB serial VID_0843&PID_5740. So, I take the win7 driver STM32_vcp_driver.zip from STMicroelectronics which has funny VID_0483&PID_5740. There I edit just the stmcdc.inf file only at this part ;------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ; VID/PID Settings ;------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [DeviceList.NT] %DESCRIPTION%=DriverInstall,USB\VID_0843&PID_5740 [DeviceList.NTamd64] %DESCRIPTION%=DriverInstall,USB\VID_0843&PID_5740 Right click on this modded stmcdc.inf "install", and voila, this Arduino nano clone from China works perfect under XP SP3 Dietmar

The 153 error relates to the referrer header – Google have decided that when embedding a video you can't block it any more. It's worth noting that when these useless error codes appear that you can right-click ... copy debug info ... paste that info somewhere you can read it, and then look towards the bottom for: "debug_error" The 153 error will reveal itself as: "embedder.identity.missing.referrer" which is the clue that it is caused by a missing referrer header. Ben.

No, not really. That is the "this is not an INSTALLER, just EXTRACT and EXECUTE" version. To make it PORTABLE, you have to "wrap it" wit a LOADER so that the .exe doesn't save files outside of its own directory, so that it doesn't make permanent changes to the registry, etc.

Well the forks do. Not the standard product. And there are other applications other than browsers that have challenges. Anyway, all good

I have tried Interlink, MailNews and Epyrus. None of them can work with OAuth2 (at least for Outlook). I've since installed Betterbird, back in the spring. All good now

I haven't used these extensions for years. All modifications are done by me manually inside extensions themselves if they need to be fixed. And that means I am not interested in these two extensions at all. They are of no use to me.

I can't imagine that pref. doing anything at all if multiprocess move is disabled, so I strongly suspect either it is your imagination, or else you do actually have multiprocess mode enabled. The pref. you cited is not the only way to enable it: You can check whether multiprocess mode is, in fact, enabled by clicking Help / Troubleshooting and scrolling down to "Multiprocess Windows." If the first number is anything but zero, it's enabled. Already done: https://github.com/JustOff/moon-tester-tool (by the author of the Classic Add-Ons Archive himself) and https://github.com/Nebula-Mechanica/serpent-tester-tool. But to be fair, these extensions are themselves several years old, so they probably need to be updated. ... Any volunteers? @AstroSkipper?

hard times for Windows Graphical User Interface... long life windows 8.0 NT 6.2 (+ex7forw8) the true kiiing & the fastest NT6 ever made http://web.archive.org/web/20160410082617/https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/b8/2011/10/07/reducing-runtime-memory-in-windows-8/ credits: Everytime 9x hears about Metro Fluent UWP whatever design... Windows has seen better days... windows computer magic has ended long long time ago I'll never ever understang how in the h3ll windows 9x flies on ridiculous hardware and now with tons of ram, nvme ssds, dedicated gpus... the OS is full of lag... Bill, if you hear me. PLEASE, come back, release longhorn, bring some joy to all WDDM capable hardware which is all hardware since 2006.

There are a lot of clean installations using a CD including SP3 and IE8. If I had to install from scratch I would use a version which contains all updates until 2014 and therefore including IE8.

Of course,. I said to @Dave-H some posts above the more the better and he agreed by replying the more the merrier.

Very strange! WSUS server + WUMT was the first method which worked without any problems from the first time I tried. Yes, it's the same.

Sorry, but this is no sentence and does not make any sense. A string of one or four words has nothing to do with detailed information.

Please be a bit more detailed! I guess you got this error code while trying to access MU web site. If so, you should follow these instructions completely and carefully: You must not skip any step.

Sorry, I can't see the mentioned files in your folders. I see only the file wsus3setup.cab in first screenshot but in second one none of them. And don't hide your extensions of files. They are important to have a look at.

Error code 0x8007000D means Error_invalid_data. Therefore I think using the XP version won't fix it probably. You have to find another version if it exists at all. Did you copy wsus3setup.cat too? Without it won't work. Both files wsus3setup.inf and wsus3setup.cat are included in cab file wsus3setup.cab.

@maile3241 I've checked the location of wsus3setup.inf once again. The file exists in two folders, one copy is in folder WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\SelfUpdate\Default\ and the other in WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\. Both files have been accessed by WU. Maybe you missed one location.

@Dave-H A little correction. I meant registry key HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate and there the value of LastRestorePointSetTime. Here is my value: 2019-04-12 13:45:09. You see it's your English format. Try the point in time you have there first! Then you may try other points in time. The method "Turning back time" can mean to go back one year or one day. You just have to try out. It's trial and error. Maybe it works. I'll forgive you due to your "senior moment". But where is the 'Use HTTP 1.0' option? I have only these entries: Use HTTP 1.1 and the Use HTTP 1.1 through proxy connections. If there wasn't both entries it had to be assumed that your Internet Explorer was not properly installed or is faulty. Anyway, look at last post of me above to download screenshots of my services in better quality.

@Dave-H Do you want me to upload these missing certificates via PM or not? Your decision. By the way I found out that on platform imgur images in jpg format have a bad quality due to strong compression. Therefore here a link of my two screeshots of all Microsoft services existing in my system listed by ServiWin but more readable plus all services in a txt file: https://www.mediafire.com/file/odq8y7iyx7i5kdf/Microsoft_services_-_AstroSkipper.7z/file

No, in step 3 there are three urls related to MU. Maybe you have missed it.

@maile3241 Where is it missing? In my third step I already wrote to add it to Trusted zone of IE. Maybe a little bit more explanation, please!

And this is a certificate updater to get the most recent root certificates: https://msfn.org/board/topic/175170-root-certificates-and-revoked-certificates-for-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1095349

@ExtremeGrief Sorry, I should do nothing. I am not the author of these packages and patches. I am a user like you and have examined my problems by restoring MU. This little guide some posts above is the result of my examinations to help other users. And once again I "should" do nothing. But you should reflect on how to speak to a member. First read the whole thread and then you will understand.

Hello heinoganda, thanks for your reply. I've got no update officially offered through Microsoft Update. Can you send me your german installer MSEInstall.exe or provide a download link? Thanks and regards