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The mirror of latest BNavigator, Firefox 45ESR, IceApe, IceDove, K-Meleon 1.5.x/74/76, MailNews 52, New Moon 26.5/27/28 and Serpent 52/55 builds by @roytam1 has been updated -> soggi.org - tools. changelog: - added latest K-Meleon 76 20220312 build - added latest New Moon 27 20220312 builds ----------------------------------------- Entering another OT... I also saw this additional "Important Notice!". Just my 2 cts on this: When I saw this additional notice I thought "OK, have a look on how I can donate some bucks or EUR to MSFN." - so I opened the MSFN board's start page via the logo in the upper left to find a thread or something else...I had a look for some minutes and couldn't find anything. So I tried the menu in the upper right and after some "trial and error" I found it under "Browse" (at the bottom of the submenu). This is a very good place to hide the donation function if you don't want to have any donation. OK, finally I found the feature and wanted to donate some money, but unfortunately I can only donate via paypal - I don't have a paypal account and I don't want to create one, I really dislike this company and how it earns money. So you can see that there are some serious problems in the process of acquiring donations. You may consider to add links in prominent places, add a page with detailed information about why donations are needed / what they are used for and (very important) add more ways to donate (not only paypal). I wouldn't like to see this board going offline, there are many threads with highly valuable content and collected/individual wisdom. BTW usually I don't donate to such projects because I have my own free-to-use project soggi.org which gains no income for years - it comes w/o any annoying/performance hitting/risky (malware etc.) advertising and costs me around 150 EUR for hosting plus hundreds to thousands of hours free time a year. I see it as my part of the donation culture, respectively the free-to-use community. kind regards soggi

Ok, I think I got it enough.

I would hope that nobody would be banned for discussing donations, subject to the normal forum rules being observed of course.. I would state that as far as I'm concerned "political rants" are not "running amok" here. They have been and will be shut down very quickly if they come to the attention of the moderators, either by their monitoring or by members' reports. They are not permitted according to a very specific forum rule, certainly not in technical threads. I do agree that a breakdown of the costs of maintaining this forum would be a good thing to see, but that is up to @xper as to whether he feels that he needs to provide that information. I don't think that anyone would not agree that this forum is a very valuable resource, and to keep it online with the high level forum software that it uses, and the costs of its server space, is not going to come cheap. I suspect that advertising revenue is low and a very small part of the necessary income, leaving subscriptions and donations as the only thing keeping it alive. Anyway, back on topic here please. Any further observations regarding donations please post here.

Hi taos, Thank you for your donation of $100.00. We look forward to improving the forums and stay online with your donation. MSFN Team

Found it. Pay attention to transaction ID. Donates as Anonymous. I couldn't find it by transaction ID or forum email address. Anyway, vi sorted this out :-) Thank you for your donation.

Another member in Turkey messaged me by coincidence just before the first donation request message went up saying he wanted to donate but PayPal is not usable in Turkey, something to do with a dispute with the government. I did bring this to the attention of @xper who said that he would look into offering alternatives methods of paying donations. AFAIK you don't have to have an actual PayPal account to pay through PayPal using a debit or credit card, but I know that there are people who don't like using PayPal anyway on principle.

Of course, a lot. My recommendation is the freeware XMedia Recode for Windows XP SP3. This is the last release for Windows XP: https://www.xmedia-recode.de/en/download_xp.php More recent versions are not XP-compatible. Another option is WinX DVD Ripper Platinum. Here is a giveaway link: https://www.winxdvd.com/giveaway/dvd-ripper-holiday-giveaway.htm. Additionally you can use AnyDVD if you have problems while converting, but you have to use Google for getting a link, and it's commercial software. Hope it'll be what you are looking for.

Donation meter with the donation button is pretty obvious in the upper right section. Perhaps you don't see the right section because your browser window / resolution / screen is too small? It seems the entire right portion hides itself for some reason when there's not enough space. Zooming out may display it. Late edit: it effectively goes into mobile mode and displays mobile menu on bottom. There's the following sub-forum in the General Discussion section: Forum Donations - Donations help go towards ongoing costs related to keeping the MSFN running. Short and concise though.

I donated $100 on 3/8/22, just wondering if you received it. transaction id: 2X530182UE2125827

One very important aspect of "v1.5_Rev3e" is that it contains internally "openssl-1.1.1d" (requires at least VistaSP2, ported to WinXP SP3 by @Mathwiz , IIANM, and then compiled with (XP_EoS) Py3.4 by @heinoganda), which bestows this "HTTPS Proxy" TLSv1.3 (final) capabilities (not present in openssl 1.0.2x/1.1.0x); while properly configured web servers do still offer fallback to TLSv1.2, some secure URLs are currently TLSv1.3 exclusive; so, if access to these must be realised via the IE web engine (e.g. an application dependent on system crypto libs/schannel), "Rev3e" is the way to go! ... Thanks @Dave-H for sharing

... Not quite ; JustOff is a Ukrainian national and he's now (most probably) fighting against his country's invaders (not gonna say more, as being OT to these forums)... Soon after the invasion took place, he shared maintainership of the github-wc-polyfill extension with a Chinese developer, whose GH username is SeaHOH (I don't know if I'm right but, based on my Chemistry background, I amicably refer to him as "seawater" ...) SeaHOH is a very competent master of Javascript (with a slightly worse command of the English language compared to JustOff, but, OTOH, my Mandarin is non-existent ); I've reported several bugs myself over in the GitHub issue tracker and he's been very helpful/successful at addressing them ; TL;DR: All beta and stable releases after 1.2.14b2 are the product of SeaHOH's efforts! The latest stable release, 1.2.16 , works wonders with latest Serpent v52.9.0 (2022-02-25) (32-bit); to install, visit the linked GH page, left click on the XPI link and accept the installation prompt from GitHub; else, if you want to first fetch the XPI to disk and then install, you'd have to modify manually the install.rdf file within the XPI (the maxVersion value); this has been explained repetitively inside these threads... NB: The extension requires very recent UXP browsers (New Moon/Serpent), it does nothing in Firefox ESR 52.9.x and close to nothing in recent Serpent 55.0.0 (if force-installed there). Loads and functions fine here: (latest St52+gh-wc-pf-1.2.16)

The following was posted today by the site's owner: After the on-going war in Ukraine, this is the second most distressing development for me, should it actually be implemented! With energy (electricity+natural gas+petrol) prices hitting all-time highs, I can understand server costs are also up, yet the very same reasons leave very little room for donations for the average MSFN member that struggles considerably as it is to cope with RL's current demands... Hard times, indeed...