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I wouldn't consider myself to be a hardcore diehard; I just enjoy it, and for me, it's a challenge to keep it running. When somebody says you 'can't' do something, that makes me want to prove them wrong even more! I intend to hold on to it so long as my aging hardware continues to grow old gracefully :)

For me using xp is not just the internet. It is lot more too. I got adobe photoshop, gimp2, paintdotnet, illustrator for photo editing. Then pinnacle 12, adobe premiere, avidemux for video editing. For listening radio/scaning radio freqs I got SDRsharp with RTL-SDR dongle. For tv I got happauge wintv soloHD DVB-C/DVB-T/DVB-T2 tuner that I use with DVBviewer to watch/record free tv channels. Then I got lot of films/videos/music/other contect on my hdd and windvd to play ones I got on dvd. For remote management of computers I got putty (latest build). Then I got old visual studio, pythonXP, microsoft XDX, symbian SDK for coding. For web I use mypal browser by Feodor2 and for email mailnews and for chatting escargot msn messenger 7.5 trough httpsproxy. I am sending this post from that xp system. For word editing office xp and openoffice. For pdf view sumatrapdf, then to sync data off phone nokia pc suite Then got plenty of games (half-life 1, 2, ms flight sim 2004, sims3, toca 3, quake 3, doom3, gt legends, dirt for starters) and all of my games controllers works on xp. I cannot see lot more things I would have to do on pc. So no XP is not going anywhere soon on me. And for some claims I found online. 1. XP will get flooded with viruses when connected to internet: well possibly will get attacked if connected to internet directly with public IP like ADSL broadband did back in 2005 here. 80% of computers are not connected to internet rather to lan that redirects requests to gateway on router and to internet. I got NAT and proper network level firewall (no upnp) and did not have that issue. I also use up to date browser with noscript 2. XP cannot support sata hdd or over 137gb hdd: yes xp cannot see more than 137gb if you got pre sp1 xp and no services packs at all. For sata if on achi mode need have sata controller driver I got 2x1tb hard drives on xp at SATA mode (both formatted at setup) and zero issues 3. XP cannot utilise multicore cpu: XP home edition is limited to 2 physical cpu/cores and pro to 4 physical cpu/cores. Multi cpu and core systems were out way before even vista came out. I have seen xp workstation with 4x pentium 3 xeons long ago. I got quad core phenom x4 945 and all cores works well on multicore enabled application. 4. XP is not optimised to fast computers: how do you define fast system? And it is not xp that utilises all system resources to it own use. Apps do and I have used lot of cpu intensive apps without notable slowdown compared win10 for example on same pc if no sure test it and do not believe all FUD they spread online.

alright I just missed this change, partly reverted.

Leak for leak, the 2k code has been leaked so long ago nobody even talks about it anymore... so what?

I benchmarked x86 versus x64 once-upon-a-time and x86 has better performance than x64, not the other way around. I do admit that this was a couple years ago, but the results were so CONVINCING and UNDENIABLE that I've never bothered with an x64 browser ever since.

@Mr.Scienceman2000 Maybe you could have a look at an Invidious instance (https://instances.invidio.us/) to watch Youtube videos. It allows you to watch Youtube videos but in a much more efficent way. It's like a real-time third-party hosted Youtube video index. The videos itself are loaded from Google servers, but what makes Youtube.com a bloated website nowadays is missing. Horray!

YouTube is actually reasonably OK for me, the only thing which doesn't work is the video preview function when I put the cursor over a video in the list, which does work in Firefox 85, but not in Firefox 52.9 ESR. I use this UA string on YouTube - "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0".

HP Pavilion Notebook (can't find much else about this model other than that.) AMD A6-6310 APU with AMD Radeon R4 Graphics 6 GB DDR3 RAM 1 tb hdd I hadn't known much about vista up until about 2 - 3 years ago. I wasn't as tech savvy before then so I just thought vista was another windows version that was different because of the name. After I learned about how vista had gotten quite the bad reputation for it's apparent "instabilities", I did a bit more research into vista, then I tried vista, and loved it. Shortly after that I stopped caring about vista because I was really big into trying to obtain copies of Windows 7 and such. Fast forward to about late last year and I discover a few videos about some people trying vista in 2020. Didn't really care until I discovered WinClient5270 and his guide about how to make vista safe to use in the modern era. Then I forgot about vista for a bit again until I started downgrading my laptop a bit, then I asked myself this question; "Can I use vista on this thing?" I started doing a bit more research into all my drivers and seeing if they would work with vista. Then after doing that I installed vista. So far my experience has been quite nice! Despite the fact that some drivers were a pain in the a** to install i'm quite enjoying vista. I'm not planning to move operating systems for a while because vista is my new home.

I'm one of the younger guys here (I was born between XP and Vista), but especially when I have nostalgia for older versions of Windows (I used 7, barely remember XP).

Same here.. We can't get a 'do-over' - I would have done things differently goes without saying (even though I'm saying it), but Hindsight is 20/20! Heck ... where did the last 20 year go LOL :)

Regret. I didn't realize how fast the last 10 years would go by.

im having a problem but more about it in a reply of the topic i made about sfc. i feel troubled. edit: update on my mood now im feeling relief and im feeling gooooooooooood

Another not welcome (at least by me) implemented change in latest NM 27.9.7 (32-bit) (2021-02-19), as a result of backporting Fx 41.0 code, is the disappearance of extensions' version numbers inside addons-manager (AOM): This is a direct result of Bugzilla Bug #1161183 landing in https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27/commit/fd2bb43 as: Bug 1161183: Don't show the add-on version in the list view. r=dao (559bfa7a5) That change was one I objected to with vigor at the time (being a Nightly Tester), but when Firefox 41 stable arrived with it merged, I was already using Classic Theme Restorer, which soon provided a setting to restore AOM to the way it was pre-41... Of course, other Firefox users complained to Mozilla about this change, but Mozilla by then were already on a steady course to degrade their browser into one targeting 10yr-olds, so, unfortunately, Bugzilla Bug #1175324 was WONTFIXed I don't know how @roytam1 feels about this change, but Aris is here again to the rescue: caa:addon/amversionnumber/versions?page=1#version-1.0.1 Download the very first version (1.0.1) of "Add-ons Manager - Version Number", patch install.rdf to add a NM27 specific targetApplication block (see my previous post) and install:

I have to agree with this! A few years ago, I needed to install Visual Studio for a class I was taking, and since my daily driver laptop was (and still is) a 2012 MacBook Pro (Ivy Bridge i7-based), I figured I'd install it to a VM for convenience. Well, that was a mistake, as it took over three hours to install, and it was so slow it was worthless. So instead, I used an older version of Visual Studio on my Dell Latitude D630 running Windows 2000 or XP (or maybe it was Notepad++ with a standalone compiler?); the instructor kept looking at me funny for doing this, as he was a big fan of Windows 10, and was of the mindset that all other versions must be immediately and completely forgotten, so almost to spite him (and prove that just because it's old doesn't mean it won't work), I kept using my then 12 year old laptop with a then 17 year old OS I mean, if it does the job and lets me do the assignments properly, what's the problem? I'll probably never use XP as my daily driver OS full time, since there's software I like to use which requires at least Windows 7, but that doesn't mean I won't use it for casual web browsing and other things that don't require new software, particularly on hardware which can't run any newer Windows versions very well. c

I said i will stick with xp , but i didnt , i tried switching to newer versions , linux distros , but none of them filled my needs , So xp is the best

Even if I cannot use Windows XP for modern activities (websites that require the newest browser), I'm definitely never getting rid of XP. It's a great OS and isn't overly bloated like Windows 10. So, I'll be sure XP stays on the older machines with Linux, and Windows 10 can stay on the hardware XP isn't compatible with. Not completely XP-related, but I'm annoyed how much Microsoft has bloated Office 365 and Visual Studio. Both have become stupidly slow for simple tasks on a i5 haswell PC from 2015.

My Windows XP pc is still alive. So there is no reason not to use it for almost every online business including home banking.

We'll see what the future holds, but like most of the other responses so far, I've no intention of giving up Windows XP for my daily driver computer. Even when I had decided to stick with XP back in the Vista days I knew that would mean eventually needing other machines for certain tasks. After all, Microsoft first tried to force gamers into upgrading to the newest Windows OS with Halo 2's release (and with deciding to make DX10 Vista-only, a tactic they've repeatedly used since). So I knew even back then I'd need a dedicated gaming PC not running XP at a certain point. Yet here I am, still running XP64. (I still don't have a dedicated gaming machine either ...) The main hurdles I foresee in regards to using XP64 indefinitely are hardware-related. Whether that's the market replacing x86 with ARM and thus ensuring new hardware is wholly unusable to x86-based OSes, or a new power supply standard making power supplies compatible with XP-friendly motherboards uncertain, there may come a time where we just can't run XP on bare metal because the hardware just won't support doing so. And it won't simply be a matter of someone finding or writing working drivers. On the other hand, that doesn't mean I'm pessimistic. When official support ends, the enthusiasts step in. Take a look at the communities for 8-bit computers; those guys are continually teaching old dogs new tricks as it were. They have, for example, made a wi-fi adapter for the Commodore 64. You can find all sorts of bonkers hardware and upgrades out there for 8-bit machines. Granted, 8-bit machines are simpler than what we deal with here, but I think the same spirit of, shall we say, innovative backwards compatibility is there.

I think there is more to the old operating systems than just internet. These machines are resources of creativity with the tools, that run on them. Writing programs, graphic programs, music programs, programming tools... even if there would be no internet at all, the old computers are capable of plenty of things. I can work best with the tools that I know best, which are the old tools. Okay, the resolution may not be the highest. But as long as the hardware runs (whose spare parts cost 0 money on the scrapyard)... it would be an uneconomic choice to switch. Consider the time you need to learn new programs! Speaking of Linux? Fantastic for modern internet browsing, but not if you need special tools. Sometimes, the Linux counterparts are poorly designed, too. LibreOffice will never perform as good as Word 97. In fact it performs worse every year! On limited hardware we have to add. My decision is set in stone. Windows XP until repairing the hardware gets expensive. On to the future with Windows XP!

And this is the only reason I don't use Windows 8.1 or older. Its nostalgic to me.

Profiles of Serpent 52.9.0 are basically architecture independent, except if you have extensions with binary components (very few exist), plus you'll need the x64 versions of some plugins (e.g JRE) if you want them to load in a x64 browser profile... However, I can't currently test with a x64 OS, so take what I said with a very minute (!) pinch of salt... As you noted, mixing profiles of different applications isn't advised - and profile migrations within the same application should only be attempted when updating from an older to a newer application version/build (i.e. not backwards).

You could run sfc /verifyonly (which does not “fix” anything if I remember correctly), then check CBS log to see if anything other than extended kernel files was found, but that does sound rather tedious to me.

No, unless MS recognizes the extended kernel files as "legitimate" and grants us the use of their authenticode signatures to sign them.

I found out that SFC replaces the extended kernel files with the original unmodified versions. Running SFC every once in a while is important, but having to replace the files after every SFC scan is tiring. Is there any way to prevent this?

Same issue as on new Youtube layout. Old one worked perfectly even on windows 2000 using palemoon 26.5 or Firefox 10 esr new one seems need hw accerlation to work proper. likely to push you for newer browser and hardware. One site needed 10 javascripts to be allowed on noscript to enter 4 lines of text

Thanks. I have tried different user agents on Facebook (I have an add-on which allows me to do that on a site by site basis) but they never seemed to make any difference. I don't want to use the mobile version of the site because it looks awful on my desktop. The new page layout has if anything made things even worse than they used to be, it's pretty slow and unresponsive even on Firefox 85! Why they use ridiculously bloated huge javascript routines on sites like Facebook is quite beyond me, I'm sure it's not necessary.

have you tried change useragent for mobile on those sites? on about:config create new string called general.useragent.override.facebook.com and set value "Mozilla/5.0 (Android; Tablet; rv:51.0) Gecko/51.0 Firefox/51.0" without quotes. That should give you better performance but still desktop usable UI on facebook.

the others in https://github.com/rmottola/Arctic-Fox/commit/559bfa7a5245f672235834334bd88be1799a7261

Great news! The update did not break anything! I don't know why SFC was behaving like that, but it's fixed so that's good.

Using a 32 bit version, disabling superfetch would be alternatives to that, but XP is also an option

I would only use XP on a machine that doesn't perform good enough with a modern operating system (pentium 4 or older) and linux isn't a viable alternative. Software patches are important for our own online safety

You should try providing the names of the drivers required (chipset name, sound driver model, ethernet or wireless card, etc.). Try providing hardware IDs of unknown devices as well. Google is your friend with those. Because Intel HD Graphics 4000 are Ivy Bridge, you might be able to install Windows XP completely in theory. But this varies with computer brands, I think. A I would recommend is snappy driver installer (SDI). It's a bit of a gamble, but it's helped me a lot when I experimented with Windows XP on a Haswell.

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Well, I shall say in order to have a better understanding of where to possibly begin to being able assist you; I shall need more information pertaining to what your exact laptop model is etc. So, what is your laptop model?

Already after the end of POSReady support, 0-days vulnerabilities in I.E. also targeting I.E.8. Just take the proper precautions. A recent example (we do not know due to lack of data) if the vulnerability below also affects I.E.8. I bet yes because it is similar to some past vulnerabilities that I have dealt with: https://blog.0patch.com/2021/02/remotely-exploitable-0day-in-internet.html

Hello! My name's Matthew and I really like NT 6.0 and 6.1 which I use as my daily drivers (dualboot), but I may consider plain Vista. I'm happy to be a part of the MSFN community!

I'm feeling : (Somewhat) Good. I know MSFN is an awesome forum (no other forum has been like this) with lots of wise people who are ready to help noobs and enthusiasts (I'm a PC enthusiast and not a complete noob) but some people pick fights within topics and that brings the discussion to nowhere, and this is frustrating. Someone (not going to name that person) has already fought with me, misunderstood me and is now very hostile but I don't care as it's not my fault if he misunderstands me. I'm hoping that this behaviour is discouraged. This is all I ask.

Hello everyone. I'm sorry for the long periods of inactivity lately. I've finally gotten around to getting the list up to date. Here's a summary of changes: Updated all links for Windows Vista Service Packs and Platform Update to ones provided by @greenhillmaniac as Microsoft removed these updates. Removed the link to my "Fix Windows Update stuck on Checking for updates in Windows Vista" video since Windows Update on Vista was shut down in August 2020. Fixed last version of eM Client for Vista: changed from version 7.2.36694.0 to slightly older 7.2.35595.0 (thanks to @tweak and @Vistapocalypse for pointing out this error). There remain some broken links to Microsoft content, mainly in the Additional Microsoft Software & Utilities & Microsoft Office Add-ins & Tools sections. These were likely purged during the "SHA-1pocoplyse" of August 2020. I will work to restore these the best I can as time goes on. Hopefully they are available at the Wayback Machine/Internet Archive...

He was a amazing man , Of course a good friend . It is honor for me that i once worked with him in some project and learned many thing from him. He was pioneer in patching OSes beyond their limit . He was always straight forward which is rare in today's engineer . I cannot say anything , i am crying . Heck even i am so late , as i was offline for long . We will definitely miss him. RIP

when i see rloew reply at first i was shocked. my deeply condolenses to all your family. his work will be continue to exists eternaly like his memory.

This sh!+ hurts. We lost a pioneer. I will learn and appreciate you guys more. jaclaz and others, I'm truly sorry for our ups and downs. I'm a christian and don't hold ill feelings. I wish we could have help more by knowing the circumstances. The family of rloew, I hope you are blessed abundantly.... I'll forever miss him. Damn!!!!!

I couldn't agree more, a very generous gesture, which will I hope ensure that Rudolph will never be forgotten by the DOS and Windows 98 preservation community. I have four of his programs, and I will happily provide them if they prove to be missing from the proposed archive.

I hope whoever has them will see that ALL of his programs and patches are uploaded and archived at the archive.org link posted above, both the free and pay ones. They should all be stored together for easy access. That the family has graciously encouraged that rlowe's work be preserved and distributed is a truly kind and wonderful thing. Their wish, and his memory, should be respected. Cheers and Regards

Just to make you aware: The Vogons Community was able to provide some of the software sold on rloew's website in the past. It has been archived on archive.org so it doesn't get lost: https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Rudolph+R.+Loew%22 If you have bought some software still missing there, you can help extending that library. Just make sure to fill the creator field with "Rudolph R. Loew" so it gets added to that list. I wanted to create a collection, but that's only possible with a minimum of 50 items. So we'll have to make due by going with the creator name.

If I may, besides the actual value of the patches/programs he made (some or which are simply invaluable) , it was the value of what he taught us (directly or indirectly) that made him a reference point. Personally - besides and beyond his work - I always admired his rigour and staightforwardness, qualities that while they should be "default" for engineers, are not at all common. We will miss him. jaclaz

First off, let me thank you ever so much for coming here to post an update, you have no idea how much it is appreciated. Second, I personally want to extend my sincerest condolences for your loss, to you and the rest of the family. We truly enjoyed having your dad as part of our community. Heh, my heart actually started racing when I saw his username had posted, thinking that somehow we got a bum steer and he was coming to tell us that he was still alive. But back to seriousness, we understand that it's probably a very busy time for you and the family and we want you to take all the time you need to grieve and take care of important business. But know that even though we didn't get to meet him personally, he was still a friend around here and we treasured the time we had with him. If I may ever be so brazen, was his passing expected or unexpected? You don't have to answer if you don't want to but it may help some of the hurt that some of us feel and give us some closure. Again, thank you so much for coming and posting this update for us! It really helps to keep up in the loop of things. I'm sure some of our users will greatly appreciate his work not being lost to the world, especially those who are as diehard Win9x users as your dad was.

I didn't realize that people would find out so soon about my father's passing. I wanted to express my appreciation of the impact he has had for many of you with all his work on Windows. I got to hear about it for years over meals and I never realized how many people found value in his patches. It is a busy time right now but I did want to clear the air regarding the patches. I would like them to continue to be distributed, for his work to be remembered and to be beneficial to others. So, please, freely distribute what you may have in terms of the work my dad did. When things are more settled, I will see what I can do regarding anything missing he might have had available and whatever relevant material there might be that someone could use to further pursue his work.

Yandex browser, which is apparently chrome 57, was ported to XP and Vista. It does have increased functionality over Advanced chrome 54, because discord loads correctly, and even voice chat works. And, yes, chedot for xp is 51.