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I'm sorry, but you're not being meticulous enough... As most of you here already know, Google Chrome is/was the only flavour of Chromium-based browser that has/had (paid) rights to ship bundled with its own PPAPI version of Adobe Flash; Chrome v49 originally came with v21.0.0.213 (dual-signed DLL on 20160406); on the portable (PAF) edition, the path to that is/was: .\App\Chrome-bin\49.0.2623.112\PepperFlash\pepflashplayer.dll For the duration v49 was still supported by its vendor (Google), a user could manually update the Flash version by loading chrome://components locating the enrty for "pepper_flash" and pushing the Check for updates button underneath it ! The updated PPAPI flash would then be installed in a user-specific location, inside the browser's profile directory: .\Data\profile\PepperFlash\xx.x.x.xx\pepflashplayer.dll Upon launch, Chrome 49 simply ignores the originally shipped version and loads the one in the browser profile! So, to recap, unlike the popular practice, the proper way to manually update Chrome's Flash version is TO NOT EVER touch the Flash DLL inside the main program dir .\Chrome-bin\<Chrome_dotted_version>\PepperFlash\ but instead perform a profile-based installation, by placing (renamed) DLL (and manifest.json) inside .\profile\PepperFlash\<Flash_dotted_version>\ Applying the above procedure on Chinese RePack (modded) v34.0.0.92 and on my portable Chrome 49 installation, Flash is loaded from: and the Adobe test page reports success :

@VistaLover Thanks for the corrections.

The Chinese RePacked/modded version 34.0.0.92 has been tested to function under WinXP SP3 (not by me, as I don't have that OS currently at my disposal, but I've been informed about XP SP3 compatibility, via PM, by another reputed MSFN member here ) ... To add/expand a bit to what already posted by @Dave-H , everything Google related (including Chrome browser, Drive, gmail, etc.) is off-access in mainland China, so a plain Chinese user would not know/care less what Google's plans are about Adobe Flash ... I haven't exhausted the whole Chinese Browser market, obviously, but most Chinese Chromium forks have ongoing Flash PPAPI(/NPAPI) support; even if future Chromium forks will have been rebased to Chromium >=88, it's not improbable to expect Flash support will have been kept/prolonged... I'm unsure as to whether other "western" Chromium forks like Opera (wait! it is Chinese-owned currently ), Vivaldi, etc. are accessible to Chinese users, but these lack an embedded Flash version, so a user has to install the PPAPI flavour system-wide (so, why not, PPAPI ZHS v34.0.0.92 ?)... Best regards!

FWIW my installation of Google Chrome 49 is still happily using Flash 32.0.0.465, using the modified PPAPI plugin file, presumably over-riding its own internal version. I haven't knowingly done anything to make that happen, now or in the past.

I guess if you were using an older version of Opera or another Chromium-based browser you might need it on a later operating system? IIRC earlier versions of Google Chrome which did support Flash had it build in, and therefore didn't need the plugin, but I may be wrong there.

I just joined msfn this month and already a great forum member had died this is sad news we should make an annual day each year Called rloew in his honer to celebrate the many achievements he's made on here R.I.P rloew you will be missed-legacyfan

To dispel any eventual confusion, these are not MODDED packages at all , they are being hosted on the Official Chinese Flash distributor domain (flash.cn), they have their digital file signatures intact (both the setups as well as their contents), upon installation they would install the telemetry FlashHelperService , without which the standalone DLLs (e.g. NPSWF32_34_0_0_92.dll) are non-functional ... What they are, in fact, is official standalone (off-line) installers, as opposed to the stub (on-line) setups one is offered by default when downloading from the main page of the Chinese Flash site: https://www.flash.cn/ The standalone setups are (recently) being offered from https://www.flash.cn/compatibility NB: The truely modded Chinese repacks I mentioned earlier in this thread do not install the telemetry FlashHelperService and are free from geo-limitations ; if you're still interested, they are labeled as "Special Edition (特别版)" and the filenames you should search for are: Adobe_Flash_Player_ActiveX_34.0.0.92_特别版(Win7).exe Adobe Flash Player NPAPI 34.0.0.92 特别版.exe Adobe Flash Player PPAPI 34.0.0.92 特别版.exe

Fixed ! I will report here what i done Firefox google certificates are Gtsrootr1 Gtsrootr2 Gtsrootr3 Gtsrootr4 i added certificates snap in to mmc and i checked the above certificates: They are installed ... so the procedure listed by heinoganda worked . I installed Alpine 2.22 also in win 7 and it works ...Alpine 2.22 64 bit uses win 7 certs Alpine 2.22 32 bit instead provides an addictional directory My win xp sp3 is 32 bits, in the ialpine 2.22 32 bits nstall.txt the developer wrote "Copy all the certificates in the folder libressl\certs to C:\libressl\certs. Create such folder in your computer if it does not exist" but it does not work, so i opened this topic .... Your suggestions are right because browsing folder C:\libressl\ there is a README file ... (i paste here the content) "LibreSSL will check certificates not using the certificates installed in your Windows computer, but it will use those saved in C:\libressl\ssl\certs. The directory name is different, i change it according to README to C:\libressl\ssl\certs , and it works So thanks to drive me on the right path . Have a nice day ! P.S. Does Heinoganda is still part of this forum ? i have a question for him

New NewMoon 27 Build! 32bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.7.win32-git-20210123-85c9d5cf2-xpmod.7z 32bit SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.7.win32-git-20210123-85c9d5cf2-xpmod-sse.7z 32bit noSSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.7.win32-git-20210123-85c9d5cf2-xpmod-ia32.7z 64bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.7.win64-git-20210123-85c9d5cf2-xpmod.7z source repo: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27 repo changes since my last build: - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 524674, nsIEventListenerService: tracking of dynamically added and removed event listeners, r=masayuki (a1779bcaf) - Bug 418986 - Resist fingerprinting by preventing exposure of screen and system info. r=mrbkap, r=heycam (97710708a) - bug 1171785 create nsContentUtils::RunInStableState helper r=bholley (c71678a0e) - bug 1172377 change RunInStableState API to receive ownership of nsIRunnable r=roc (3d5c72cac) - bug 1171785 use nsContentUtils::RunInStableState() r=bholley (1c0acca87) - Bug 1172784 (part 1) - Remove unused argument from UnmarkGrayJSListenersInCCGenerationDocuments(). r=mccr8. (a3a26ec9f) - Bug 1172784 (part 2) - Remove PL_DHashTableEnumerate use from nsContentUtils. r=mccr8. (792b83f8e) - Bug 1171832 - Remove PL_DHashTableEnumerator use from nsDocument. r=smaug. (eb265bb3a) - Bug 819090 - Convert nsRefMapEntry::mRefContentList to nsTArray. r=froydnj (509060d38) - Bug 819090 - Convert BroadcasterMapEntry::mListeners to nsTArray. r=froydnj (6b1bd7232) - Bug 819090 - Convert nsDocument::mIdContentList to nsTArray. r=froydnj (41ebb3a64) - Bug 819090 - Remove nsVoidArray.{cpp,h}. r=froydnj (6038b4fc7) - Bug 1199143 - Inline heavyweight functions. r=shu (798a24e44) - bug 1150136 - rel=preconnect from html parser r=hsivonen (1a078efcb) - Bug 1135812 - Make picture element react to viewport changes. r=dbaron,johns (4b405d69c) - add missing testcase (cb6c04747) (3dc3bde9f) - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1204426 - Unregister message listeners of settings service locks. r=khuey (751d0c649) - Bug 1173930 - Not invoke FullscreenChange callback on OS X if state is not changed. r=smichaud (70f406f3c) - Bug 1171061 - use std::bitset for deprecation and document warnings in nsDocument; r=smaug (02ec9b4c3) - Bug 1157619 P1 Network requests should not be intercepted when force-refreshed. r=smaug (9a33463d2) - Bug 1165501 - using most recent referrer policy found in the document. r=sstamm (74c7eef63) (85c9d5cf2)

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20210123-355db4de-uxp-411ccb0e4-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20210123-355db4de-uxp-411ccb0e4-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom-older * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20210123-id-eed0566-uxp-411ccb0e4-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20210123-id-eed0566-ia-41157bf-uxp-411ccb0e4-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild for UXP changes please see above.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210123-3b12c85-uxp-411ccb0e4-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20210123-3b12c85-uxp-411ccb0e4-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20210123-3b12c85-uxp-411ccb0e4-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.2a1.win32-git-20210123-0fe3d520e-uxp-411ccb0e4-xpmod.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.2a1.win32-git-20210123-0fe3d520e-uxp-411ccb0e4-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.2a1.win64-git-20210123-0fe3d520e-uxp-411ccb0e4-xpmod.7z Official UXP changes since my last build: - Issue #1689 - Part 1: Add pref for DOM Animation timelines API (b0fe759f0) - Issue #1689 - Part 2: Add a preference for implicit keyframes (407c86641) - Issue #1689 - Part 3: Add a preference for animation composite modes. (931314ef6) - Issue #1689 - Part 4: Add a preference for {Document,Element}.getAnimations() (abc58d2ed) - Issue #1689 - Part 5: Enable DOM Animations API except the preffed-off parts. (b3d380b4e) - Bump platform version for added features. (82fb08c65) - Merge pull request 'Selectively enable and pref the DOM Web Animations API' (#1714) from 1689 into master (c77d06c0c) - Issue #1715 - Handle errors when initializing print settings from the printer fails due to a bad printer name or O.S. error. (22e78108b) - [Media] Enable AV1 by default if built (75286e68d) - Issue #1630 - Enable W3C pointer events by default. (411ccb0e4) Official Basilisk changes since my last build: - [SSUAO] Updates for "mainstream" sniffers. (3b12c85) Official Pale-Moon changes since my last build: - [docs] Add basic release engineering guidelines (9855cbb52) - Revert "[docs] Add basic release engineering guidelines" (a88b7c06a) - Back-end branch pointer update (Unstable 2021-01-19) (0fe3d520e)

I haven't been on this forum in a few years. Very to sad to hear of Loew's passing. As a fellow reverse engineer, I really admire his work.

There actually *IS* a more serious reason to use 8.0 instead of 8.1, for those intending to use the x64 version (most users, nowadays, I'd guess), which cannot be solved by wufuc (because here we aren't talking about any artificial CPU blocks, but of a totally different issue): This summary is provided just to remind people of the described issue, and has been edited (by myself) for clarity and to stress tha some guesses at the time they were originally posted are now known to be facts.

Except CPU blocking due to some updates. Those don't affect Windows 8, while using Server 2012 patches.

Yes thanks @jasongeo2, and welcome to the forum! Lovely picture of your dad, clutching a 1960s remote control!

Welcome to MSFN, Tony! I wish it were under better circumstances, but we're glad to see you here. Thank you for the picture of your dad.. I know I probably speak for several others here as well when I say I wish I had known more about Rudy and been able to get to know him better personally. I exchanged many, many emails with him, and always enjoyed hearing about whatever he was experimenting with at the time. We once discussed meeting up if I were ever in New York, but unfortunately I never got the opportunity... One never knows the future, but if I had had any idea he would be gone so soon I would have MADE the opportunity. I haven't been able to work much lately on the page that I was making that is dedicated to Rudy's work, but I will add this picture to it, and I would be glad to add any other such things as might be interesting.. I thought about making a short biography type page, but it's hard to know where to begin, and it's depressing to realize just how few details you know about someone else's life and interests outside of whatever subjects you've discussed, even when you considered them a close friend...

Thank you for the kind words about my father. Rudy has two sons. Jason loew is his blood son and we have the same mothers and I am Tony Sotomayor. Rudy was my step dad. I miss him so much.And Im glad to see how he impressed his fellow programmers on this thread and how much they respect his work. I knew as a child Rudy was very intelligent and a gifted programmer. If anyone would like to download a picture of Rudy when he was in his last year in College at University of Oklahoma 1970(Sooner 1970). I have a pic of him that was taken of him at the Engineers Club Engineers week party pic. Maybe someone can put it on this thread or something? He was young fresh leaving college and healthy. Picture is how I like to remember him. You can email me direct for that pic or anything else you want to know about my dad at jasongeo2@aol.com

Sorry to hear that such a great contributor to the Windows 9x community has passed away... RIP.

One year ago today... Rudy, you are sorely missed!

I just came to know about this guy's work. What a legend! Rest in peace. Some great work from this guy: ● AHCI CD DOS Driver ● AHCI for Windows 9x ● Full Disk encryption for Windows 9x ● PTCHCDFS - To correct displayed size of DVDs on Windows 9x ● Blu-Ray writing and reading support for Windows 9x ● >4GB file support for Windows 9x ● 48 bit LBA support for Windows 9x (HDD up to 2 TB) ● SATA support for Windows 9x ● >4GB RAM support for Windows 9x ● API Redirector for Windows 9x ● HDD Advanced Format support for Windows 9x ● SSD TRIM DOS program for DOS/Windows 9x on FAT32 file system ● 9x shell32 patch with newer functions ● Windows Driver Model (WDM) API Extender ● Update slipstreaming for Windows 9x ! Simply AMAZING! Thank you Rudolph Loew, you will not be forgotten.

Also because Vista was just too ahead of its time, and had a far too damaged reputation by the time SP1/2 had ironed out most of the early launch issues. Doesn't help there was crap like the NVIDIA 8600M (which I'd had the displeasure of dealing with) and Pentium Dual-Cores.

biggest issue are drivers for a modern gpu, amd blocks the install of any modern driver, even though it will install ok on windows 7

@NoelC and others reported that file system operations are faster in 8 than 8.1. 8.1 was 5% slower than 7, and I believe 8 was quite close to 7.

Well, if you're just using the desktop - and you're not planning to use the Metro apps or the touch environment at all, Windows 8 does provide some benefits over Windows 8.1 that are as follows: There are no known telemetry updates in Windows 8 that plague both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 Windows 8 does not have any known CPU blocks (which affected update support). Then again, Windows 8 went out of support in January 2016, so any updates you get will be manually applied from Server 2012 anyway (you can get these from the Microsoft Catalog) No GWX Nags! So you have a Windows version that's fairly modern, and that Microsoft leaves pretty much alone. You can't run IE 11 (but that hardly matters). Windows Defender still protects the system with updated definitions.

No Telemetry updates basically, this is the most important. Let me add some stuff: - Compatibility mode for Oses older than Windows Vista - Windows Experience Index - GUI option not only to make backups of your system but also to restore from them (though I use Macrium Reflect Free for this job) - No Libraries in the My Computer folder - Option to monitor the network traffic amount in Charms>Networks - Other details that make Windows 8 feel more complete aesthetically and functionally than Windows 8.1 Not to mention the countless bugs of Windows 8.1 that were corrected with Update 1. I think that Windows 8.1 was in fact a hasty and nervous release in anticipation to the reactions against Windows 8. That's my opinion at least.