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New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.4.win32-git-20190817-ab6242a93-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rths.cf/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.4.win64-git-20190817-ab6242a93-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.7.0a1.win32-git-20190817-ab6242a93-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.7.0a1.win64-git-20190817-ab6242a93-xpmod.7z Official repo changes since my last build: - Outdated comment removal (no code changes) (248476f94) - Merge branch 'master' into FrameProperties-remove-obsolete-comment (1c53b589c) - Remove some leftover snippets code. (2c17aaec1) - Issue #1134: Reinstate postDataString for about:home searches. (b5cbb4d2f) - Issue #999 - Use xdg-desktop-portal for file selection dialogs on Linux. (47c48dfcb) - Merge pull request #1209 from win7-7/FrameProperties-remove-obsolete-comment (06a1dd2a2) - Remove "Delete this page" and "Forget about this site" from livemarks. (7dfb0c216) - Enable the JSON View tool by default. (c54bbf01f) - Issue #1211: Allow the loading of TYPE_FONT from file: URLs. (31c765b05) - Issue #438: Do not round the translation of an SVG frame. (0d530b1ca) - Issue #438: Pixel-snap subpixel value for outer SVG and anon child. (4bb5a957f) - Issue #438: Rename coord/coords to originValue/transformOrigin. (c8666d156) - Issue #438: Add an IsRectilinear helper method to gfxMatrix. (be12aaf41) - Issue #438: Check for non-rectilinear transforms (c67d673d4) - Issue #438: Make the nsSVGOuterSVGAnonChildFrame a reference frame. (0481fa14b) - Issue #438: Add reftests. (203cb72e9) - Issue #438: Revert incorrect changes to w3c-css reftests (b345c82c1) - Update platform version. (0cd0854ba) - Issue #1124: Remove Firefox Developer Edition code. (9f7b943c1) - Issue #1124: [Basilisk] Remove Dev Edition front-end tie-ins. (cdd54fbe1) - Issue #1124: [Basilisk] Remove Dev Edition theme. (9d833d769) - Issue #1208: Fix jsonLoad in Sync's `util.js` to handle errors. (8c34d786e) - Issue #1208: Remove `services.sync.enabled` pref. (2925fdc3e) - Issue #1208: Update Sync policies.js getters/setters to prevent race. (1e8e5563d) - Issue #999 - Disable native file picker by default. (f7fced09d) - Merge pull request #1212 from Ascrod/xdg-desktop-portal (ab6242a93)

Hey guys! I saw a Video recently, where Windows 7 got transformed into Windows Vista. I tried it out on a Virtual Machine and I am very impressed by that. It Looks 100 % like Windows Vista, even the Branding is original Vista. As you also know Windows 7 supports Internet Explorer 10/11, Office 2013/2016, Microsoft Security Essentails, latest Chrome, latest Firefox, latest Skype, latest Spotify... It feels like Vista supports those Applications now too I will add a screenshot.

That video was posted by MSFN member WinClient5270, OP of Last versions of software for Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 and perhaps the greatest Vista guru of our time! This is no doubt a much more practical idea than your earlier wish to essentially transform Vista into Windows 7. Edit: Of course I wrote that before win32 developed Windows Vista Extended Kernel.

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20190817-211bb28-uxp-ab6242a93-xpmod.7z Browser-only Suite Win32 https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20190817-211bb28-uxp-ab6242a93-xpmod.7z source patch (excluding UXP): https://o.rths.cf/boc-uxp/boc-uxp-src-xpmod-20190720.7z No Official repo changes since my last build. For UXP changes please see above.

I suspect that a lot of Win 7 users are either upgrading to Win 10, switching to new Win 10 machines, or just abandoning Windows altogether. That's probably due to all the hype M$ is pushing as Win 7 EOS nears. Win 7 users abandoning Windows would push up the percentages of all other Windows versions. That may explain the apparent rise in Win XP users. To confirm whether the apparent rise in XP use is real, you'd need to see the raw numbers, not just percentages.

That was directed more towards the Vista users (especially if they dump DX9), though if they stick with DX9 (or use DX10/11 in a way wined3d can handle), application verifier or fcwin2k may work (caveat being W7-dependent functions of course). I did mention two such programs in the "last software for XP thread".

Bingo. Rangarok Online had this issue last month, Gravity KR's developers lost the ability to support XP due to newer SDKs. They're using some stopgap to provide XP compatibility for iRO in the meantime, but iRO is also years behind in content. So, who can say how long that compatibility will last. This is an interesting solution! I'll have to look into this. Do we have a thread on which programs can continue to run under XP using Application Verifier? Might be useful.

This thread is just for XP we have seen "out in the wild" or on the internet, not our own personal systems. We have a thread for that kind of thing here: Which I will be posting in soon once I get my notebooks sorted out.

The best you can hope for is to use Application Verifier on the desktop client to fake Windows 7 once it starts to block XP/Vista. However, they may take the opportunity to recompile it with dependencies on DX 11.1 (Windows 8 and up, partially backported to 7) or other Windows 7-specific functions. You may still have a glimmer of hope in the former case, if these DX 11.1-specific libraries can be copied over to Vista with no dependency issues, as that's what happened to later iterations of DX9 with so-called XP-exclusive components; they work in Windows 2000 even without the extended kernel. All I can say is, keep your copy of dependency walker handy.

Right you are! Unfortunately, it's beginning to look like you are the only MSFN member running Vista or XP who is really concerned about Roblox support - or perhaps there is simply no solution.

Excuse me, I was under the impression that you were running XP 5 days ago. I'll get right on it, just as soon as I have time to kill.

Much as I would like to discuss world politics, this is obviously the wrong forum. I had actually wondered if my 8/10/2019 post might lead someone to conclude that I didn't know Yandex was Russian, thinking I had shown admirable restraint; but VistaLover was able to read between the lines. Nevertheless, it is impolite to ignore a direct question: Most definitely. No surprise that Torch won't run on Vista, but glad you were able to prove it without installing any PUPs.

I won't take an oath, but it's highly probable! Having grown up in Greece, I don't harbour such discriminatory preconceptions; in the grand scheme of geopolitical/historical things, Greece as a nation/state hasn't had a true ally (and you just have to simply study the last 300 yrs of European/global history to easily conclude that); has always been a pawn on the world's chessboard; the big powers of each era just manipulated Greece in a way to better suit their agendas, with Greece ending up being the party with the bigger losses... To return to the topic, using Windows 10 (possibly previous versions, too) and/or a Google product, some of your sensitive data are bound to be stored in some US-owned server, the NSA/FBI/CIA or any other federal agency would have little trouble accessing it if you somehow found yourself under their spotlight. Similarly, some of the Russian software may store sensitive user data to Russian servers and make them accessible to state agencies, that is if you somehow attracted their interest; of course, it is broadly known that this phenomenon (regime spying on internet users) is much more widespread with Chinese browsers, so one should always keep this in mind... I am not likening Trump's USA to Putin's Russia, certainly none of them to Jinping's China; but to me, "superpowers" are just that, more or less they'll have their way irrespective of my beliefs... And really, in the year 2019, do you still consider Russia as an adversary nation? In fact, I quite like Yandex.Browser and have even installed it in my sister's Win7 machine, instead of Google Chrome. The GUI is pleasing (also has a dark theme in the Win7 compatible version), has compatibility with both Opera and Google Store (for installing extensions), the English localisation is quite good and it's very easy to de-Russify (which isn't the case with the Chinese browsers). All in all, quite pleased with it (... and President Putin can freely read all of my MSFN posts, I don't mind ). About Torch browser: Latest offline installer is of version 69.0.0.1674, as posted; of course, I didn't try to run it, instead unpacked it like @win32 with 7-zip; the chromium binaries are deeply buried in the directory tree, after several more decompressions, I was finally able to test chrome.dll with Dependency Walker: As you can see, many missing functions in three implicitly dependent modules (kernel32.dll, shell32.dll, user32.dll), missing delay-load dependency modules, missing functions also in some of them; in other words, it won't run in Vista. Now, some previous versions forked on Chromium <=50, if were to be found, might actually run in Vista but, frankly, I'm not interested...

Wikipedia agrees that Torch browser requires Windows 7 or 8, citing system requirements from Wayback Machine. Why would Torch Media now falsely claim to support XP and Vista? Wikipedia states, "Torch Media receives payments from companies like Ask.com to bundle potentially unwanted programs with the browser." The fact that Torch does not claim to support Windows 10 causes me to wonder if Windows Defender has a signature for Torch? Edit: The stub installer is not hosted at torchbrowser.com, and here's a link to a recent VirusTotal analysis. 2nd edit: Found an offline installer. It had not been analyzed at VirusTotal for a month (4 detections), so I reanalyzed.

afaik it doesnt work on vista either , i had tried torch before back in 2017 and it wouldnt load with missing dlls and errors

Anyway it looks like browserss is incorrect with regards to the OS requirements of Sputnik; the official site (https://browser.sputnik.ru/#personal) claims Windows 7 and up. Torch browser is still in the running, as it does officially claim to support XP/Vista (https://torchbrowser.com/faq) It does have a lot of stuff integrated into it which does not suite me well though. UPDATE: I just downloaded the current offline installer for Torch Browser, version 69.0.0.1674, dated 2019-07-08. Ran the installer off a USB drive to my laptop with Server 2003 (no Vista machines here, unfortunately) and it failed to copy any files to the SSD. So I opened up the installer with 7zip, then hunted through \$R1\$_11_\pack.exe\chrome.packed.7z\chrome.7z\Chrome-bin to find the browser. It wouldn't load because of the missing API AcquireSRWLockExclusive. The good news is that it is included in Vista! As do all of the other missing dependencies.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that is the highest Chromium version of any non-Chinese browser that works on Vista. I try to be cosmopolitan; but having grown up in the USA, I am suspicious of software from adversary nations. Speaking of which: member win32 mentioned Sputnik in a post above, which apparently isn't even popular in Russia (perhaps because it is state-owned).

@Windows Vista Welcome to MSFN forums Yandex.Browser already covered in the first post of this thread: The link provided in that first post, as well as the link one gets when visiting https://browser.yandex.com/ with an XP/Vista User Agent string (*NT 5.x*/*NT 6.0*) is for a stub (on-line) installer! Official download link for off-line (Full/Standalone) installer, for version 17.4.1.1026: http://download.cdn.yandex.net/browser/update/17_4_1_1026_2644_w_s_m/yandex.exe 17.4.1.1026 is built on Chromium 57.0.2987.1026 source and is the last officially supported version on Vista; however, it is not the latest version that can be reliably run on Vista (but not XP); that one is version 17.6.0.1633, built on Chromium 58.0.3029.1633 source: Most sadly, it has proven impossible to locate a stub and/or full installer for that version, thankfully a third party portable (PAF) package has been archived in SourceForge (and is the one used here ): https://sourceforge.net/projects/thumbapps/files/Internet/Yandex%20Browser/YandexPortable_17.6.0.1633_on_Chrome_58.0.3029.1633.paf.exe/download Considering latest Yandex.Browser (19.6.1.153) is based on Chromium 74.0.3729.15 source, version 17.6.0.1633 should be considered deprecated/insecure by today's web standards; be that as it may, I find most websites render OK, with the exception, of course, of github.com (since they insist on always using the cutting edge version of Javascript code); if you spoof your UA to being FirefoxESR 60.x.x, even github works OK (but I suspect this hack will soon break, as FxESR60 will reach EoL towards the end of this month...). Cheers