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... And un-archived now : https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox

I have changed the user agent and get big Google again now. Another downside of the new lightweight Google is that I can't see the target URL where I am about to go in the status bar. All URLs go through Google for spying but they show the real url until one clicks on the link. I also found that I need the page zoom one notch down with the new big one.

Hi @roytam1, is there any chance you can build a x64 version of NewMoon 26 ? There is an "official" Pale Moon 26.5.0 x64 build, but most sites cannot make a secure connection and showing this message "This Connection is Untrusted".

I've tried installing KB5068781 on 21H2 Home edition and failed. Unlike LTSC, it seems that 21H2 Home edition also requires ESU activation just like 22H2. Although it is possible to display ESU activation option on 21H2 by Regedit, Microsoft only provides ESU activation service for 22H2 so I can't complete ESU activation on 21H2. Without ESU activation, the installation will be ended by WindowsWcpAIFailure3 and CbsPackageServicingFailure2. The default value of ESUEligibility is 1, and ESUEligibilityResult is 3. To display the option, the value of ESUEligibility should be 2, and ESUEligibilityResult should be 1. Anyway, the last CU for 21H2 Home edition is KB5066791, but KB5069340 for WinRE is still compatible.

I COMPLETELY agree @VistaLover. By the way, you really did a complete job in your above assessment. I'm also grateful to what @K4sum1 gave us. But I also need to look after my needs. While I hate that we have a Google-fied web, I've stopped worrying about the implications of all of the privacy issues we face. It's not that I disagree with the level of concern, but it's that we REALLY can do nothing about it. I need to perform online banking, watch and help produce videos on YouTube, use WebRTC to voice traffic reports, and take part in Zoom meetings, Google Meet and Teams Meetings, and apply for work; all which basically NECESSITATES providing a good chunk of personal information to proceed. I don't agree with the corporate tactics, but I must continue to function. It was indeed K4Sum1's project, as Pale Moon was Moonchild's. What I feel these visionary types (who admittedly deserve a lot of credit for their work), fail to realize is that those that make up their user base are CONSUMERS or CUSTOMERS. Now Moonchild and his "moonie minions" VEHEMENTLY disagree with that. But customers are not just defined as those providing monetary exchange to a company or corporation for a product. They can be those who provide voluntary stake to a company, or mission. So in this way, those who co-develop alongside Moonchild, those who provide add-ons, those who beta test, and YES even those who simply (and regularly) USE Pale Moon, are indeed customers and stakeholders. When someone creates a project, and it attracts users to the resulting product, such as in K4Sum1's r3dFox, expectations begin to be developed. No matter if these expectations are right or wrong for the userbase to behold, they are real, and the developer needs to contend with them. Those are simply the facts. K4Sum1 provided a way for me to use Windows 8 on an extended basis, and you become reliant on that. When K4Sum1 understandably says, "I'm just not feeling it", it doesn't incite a favourable response among the userbase. Fair? Perhaps not, but it's a very real sentiment. @K4sum1, I genuinely hope you are OK.

The redfox-old GitHub repo was (also) archived today, but this was probably to be expected; no clue as to why its successor suffered the same fate today ... As for the Eclipse Board , they mention "Temporary maintenance" (stress on "temporary" is mine ) ... That ; and those "proposals" did materialise into a Librewolf-ication of r3dfox that many, myself included, never asked for ... As @Jody Thornton put it, ... and I'll add Vista SP2 to the OS mix above ; yes, close to "stock" Firefox but with the ability to launch on older WinOSes! This is what most site admins expect, this is what most extension authors expect and target... I was never part of the "extreme web privacy" crowd to demand a change of route towards Librewolf (or similar forks); I understand a small portion of the LW code was needed to address a specific r3dfox technical issue, but that is different to incorporating large chunks of LW code "while we're at it" ... As if it wasn't enough to deal with Mozilla "breaking" things (and locking down the browser) with each major version update, an "average" r3dfox user has to deal with "r3dfox-specific" changes, too (ones that not always meet with said user's "approval") ... And my own words on DRM/EME: I found r3dfox maintainer's "obsession" about DRM simply "blown out of proportion"; he goes to extreme lengths to disable EME at buildtime, but the browser itself provides an easy way to disable EME at runtime, if one objects to it for whatever ideological reason... Let's face it; with Google practically owning the Web, they have leveraged the use of their own CDM (Widevine) in most media services, even the most obscure, but still free, ones... Yes, I totally understand the argument about "black-boxed code" etc., but DRM has become a necessary evil in the web era of 2025 and beyond... A lot of focus has been put on the VMP (Verified Media Path) requirement associated with the majority of the prominent/commercial DRM'ed Video+Audio services (e.g. Netflix, Disney+, Paramount+, Spotify, Tidal, Apple Music, etc.) as a reason NOT to implement DRM on r3dfox (because VMP entails a very large sum of money, paid to Google, for certifying the browser for VMP purposes), but what about the rest of the lesser known services that don't impose VMP with DRM? Jody's example of https://www.cp24.com/now/ is such a case, there are many others... The whole thing kind of reminds me, in some twisted way, of Moonchild and his own browser, Pale Moon, where he vehemently refused to implement DRM of any kind; but while Basilisk was still his, he allowed the DRM functionality inherited from his FxESR-52 forkpoint to stay enabled; that is, until the point he could no longer shoehorn-in upstream (Mozilla) DRM patches and, one day, DRM in Basilisk was declared such a big Evil that had to be completely excised! (NB: Latest Widevine CDM (a .dll) needs Win8+ to properly function; on Vista/Win7, some wrapper DLLs (e.g. borrowed from the Supermium project ) are actually needed to make it work there (and only on non-VMP services)). I believe so; he probably had a "hissy fit" and decided to "now I'll show you all", or I could be totally wrong and the GitHub repo archival was an inadvertent mishap ... ... You can count me as one (though I did not post in that thread...). Personally, I'll stick to older r3dfox-140.0.4; it will become my new "KafanMiniBrowser" for GitHub; I'm not that concerned about security patches, as long as GH works there (and it'll continue to work until 140esr becomes deprecated), I'll keep using it... In closing, I'm not being entitled or ungrateful towards the r3dfox author; huge thanks from my side for what he has offered to me over the last two years or so ...

I was worried that may be the case too, as I was a tad vocal on my thoughts of where r3dFox is headed, on the Eclipse Fourm. However, that isn't my saying "You have to do this or that!". I'm vehement on my opinions, and make no apologies for it. In any case, I have now moved on the Firefox for Windows 7 and 8, since releases seem to be happening more quickly. This is especially the case for ESR builds. I'm glad I switched. Even if my comments were not made, I'm sure there were a lot of vocal proponents of my mindset, including one being a moderator.

I can confirm; it's a "less heavy" G-Search iteration, probably more gentle to older/under-resourced H/W ; below, a glimpse of what an Image Search looks like: Should you wish to revert to the "full-blown" G-Search implementation, targeting so called "recent" web engines, just use a SSUAO for Google: general.useragent.override.google.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:140.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/140.0 And then, above image search will turn into:

I haven't heard anything. The recent Eclipse Community discussion seemed to be developmental proposals on the direction the project was headed. There were some outspoken disapprovals of those proposals. But it didn't come across as "hyper-critical" or anything like that. But sometimes you never know, it is his project and maybe he just got tired of those "disapprovals". I kind of doubt it, and hate to "speculate". I'm sure we'll know more soon...

Does anyone know what happened? The repository on GitHub is archived, and the website is down.

Exactly idem here on XP, with the last NewMoon 28 and Basilisk. But connexion to Y! is OK via myPal on XP (or on Galaxy smartphone). No problem with Gmail.

Google just switched to a simplified style for search results in New Moon. It likely is based on my user agent or perhaps other properties. The font is large, the page displays faster, but it lack navigation to a specific page of results with only a Next link showing.

I shall wait for a user of YouTube-DLP to assist. I have never used this and there is a LARGE following. I would think several of them would jump in. It is possible that you will gain more traction with a dedicated "Extension for YouTube-DLP" thread. I would think several would join in the new thread that aren't even seeing this in a Supermium thread. Granted, YouTube-DLP has been on my "To Do List", but very VERY far down on that list. I'll get to it... Eventually...

Yes, I downloaded the files PRO2K.zip PRO2Kv2.zip PRO2Kv3.zip but I don't know which ones is version PROWIN32 v19.5 ???

what you wrote rather describe a small console where you can enter a executables name + that parameter the createprocess function can do exactly this, so this might be a question for a plugin someone writes that is doing that that %s is useally something for translate a string with something called printf with %s it knows that is a string it either gets translated before given as parameter (then you not fine) or the programm that reads that parameter untranslated with %s (then you are fine) for a dll there would be the rundll.exe question

Dancing? I previously said: "I want to download YouTube with YouTube-DLP. The Open With preset has to be able to save various command-line parameters." So I want to run program: youtube-dl.exe With arguments: -f 299/137/298/136/22/bestvideo,140/bestaudio[language=en]/bestaudio --fixup never --restrict-filenames --extractor-args "youtube:player-client=default,-tv_simply" -o "t:\working\%(title)s- %(id)s .%(ext)s" What good is giving such specifics when tomorrow I may change the arguments.

ie, it is *VERY* likely that one of those "Open in VLC Player" extensions CAN BE MODIFED to INCLUDE different programs. I've done it in the past! Granted, Chrome is much more "secure" than it was with v86, but I'm still confident that if an extension can send a media file to VLC Player, then IT CAN ALSO send other files to other programs. All via *ONE* extension.

You can do that in Chromium-based extensions also. That is why I keep asking for details on just WHAT you want to do. I ran an extension in 360Chrome (based on Chrome v86) that had an extension to open .pdf files via whatever was associated at the OS level for .pdf files (Adobe Acrobat v9.5.5 is what I was using at the time). I modified that ONE extension to not only open .pdf files, but send .txt files to Notepad++, .xls files to Excel 2000, .xlsx files to Excel 2007, and .bin files to a program for modifying aftermarket turbos. So what you want *CAN* be done. You just keep dancing around giving us the DETAILS to adequately assist. If you cannot reveal the PROGRAM that you are wanting to send something to, then I'm afraid I cannot even START in seeking a possible solution. Doesn't mean I *have* a solution, but you really aren't even letting me know WHERE TO START.

Oh they have an extension for each individual program. With this philosophy you would soon drown in browser plugins. Open With in New Moon allows you to enter the name of any program you want in the same extension.

Unfortunately, direct link not works from wlu site , but as jumper said , search with "intel" or "gigabit" https://ibb.co/tMGZdJxY

Does anyone know if this would get Discord to work again on Windows 8.1? And what about Unity 2023 and VrChat Creator Companion for 8.1 also? If it does, then I may stick 8.1 onto a 2TB NVMe on my Acer Nitro 5 515-54 with 9th Gen Intel and Nvidia 1050 Graphics. I create content for VrChat on occasion, and if these three things work, then yippee!

Click on "Manual Update" in the left-side (Windows Update) menu Enter "intel" or "gigabit" as the Search Keyword (not "prowin") Click "Search" (scroll down if needed) Links to three versions of the Intel driver appear on the right. No, but the drivers above might work if you modify the inf file or force-install. Open a new NT4 LAN thread to report test results or for more discussion.

Wanted to say, Thanks that SAB 3.9.17 fixes the bug that was in recent prior versions, where in the Win 7 Start Menu, that if you have show Settings App items as a menu, the menu was empty. I'm really glad to see it working again.

Earlier I mentioned that modern Intel was a lot faster in a specific software compared to modern AMD. After investigating, turns out that the issue is not with XP/XP64 on modern hardware, but with the company compiler the program was created with. Back in the XP era, a compiler from a certain lawsuit happy company compiled in such a way so that CPUID was checked, and if the cpu was not from that company, lets say AMD, then it used basic instruction set only instead of SIMD (MMX/SSE/SSE2/etc...) https://www.felixcloutier.com/x86/cpuid snippet here is just after cpuid was run and loaded ebx,edx,ecx into memory, you can see the vendor identification string being compared to the memory locations cmp [ebp+...], 75 6E .. .. h if it matches then flag is set to "1" mov eax, 1 if cpu was does not pass vendor identification string, then it sets flag to zero xor eax,eax code continues on to test if flag was set to 1, and if it was continues on to the rest of the code where the SIMD occurs test eax,eax if not then goes to the end of the subroutine to the same place as if it was a "good" vendor identification string but one that reported no SIMD capabilities. cmp [ebp+..], 0 jz loc_5431EC To fix problem, you can search in IDA for the 3x 4 character grouping starting with 756E.... and replacing the first conditional jump JNZ "75 xx" with an JMP "EB yy." so that it skips the checks and goes straight to setting the flag "mov eax,1". Fortunately the certain company compiler was not really popular for games, but more for computational/scientific software. By making the change the AMD processor got a 3x speed boost thanks to now being allowed to use SIMD instructions.

Thanks! I'll take a look at those files, after extracting them. Since the driver source is available, I may have to backport them that way. I'll need to familiarize myself with the differences between WDM versions, and setup up the correct compiler/build tooling. From where I stand now, I can't see why some of the more interesting features could not work with earlier WDM systems; but that is just from reading about the differences "on paper". The main developer did mention "not" supporting win98fe due to the WDM version; then later Win98se was also dropped. However, for my target features (ASIO, Soundfont support, hardware mixing/routing, DSP FX, etc) I'm not sure where the problem would have been. It may have been an issue with how the whole thing was written. The same developer also mentioned requiring a near total rewrite, in order to support more features. I'm not sure how (yet) leaning into newer WDM specifications could have caused that (it was probably something else). If it was the case, then I could be in trouble. I think the need for a heavy rewrite had something to do with wanting to support EAX and higher audio sample rates (ASIO was fixed at 48000hz). There was also some talk about needing a near complete rewrite, to support ALSA (Linux); but that doesn't mean much here. Thanks again, for the tips. If I have any luck there, I'll report back.