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bilko
hi i am trying to find the switch for nero 6.3.1.20 this is what i am using but it won't install silent can anyone help plz


ECHO.
ECHO Registering Nero Burning ROM...
REGEDIT /S %systemdrive%\install\Applications\Nero\register.reg
ECHO.
ECHO Installing Nero Burning ROM v6.3.1.20
ECHO Please wait...
start /wait %systemdrive%\install\Applications\nero\setup.exe /silent=1 /silent /no_ui /noreboot
SwedenXP
This works for me biggrin.gif

Place it in Your main_batch.cmd and You can do both the install and register it at the same time biggrin.gif

ECHO Installing Nero 6.3.1.20
ECHO Please wait...
start /wait %systemdrive%\install\Nero\nero63120.exe /silent /noreboot /no_ui /sn=xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx /write_sn
ECHO.

/ SwedenXP
Astalavista
what is the "no_ui" for?
SwedenXP
Found this in antother thread...

/ SwedenXP whistling.gif

QUOTE
 
The installer for the products using the Web Install-Engine allows it to proceed an unattended installation for endusers.
Unattended Installation of the Ahead Product without storing the serial number in the registry

setup.exe /silent /sn="XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX"

There are several types of serial numbers. The used type of a serial number defines the structure of the start menu part of the product. This allows it install a product on several systems with one serial number. The customer has then to enter the serial number after the first start of the product (or the customer uses the Demo Mode if the product supports this)
Unattended Installation of the Ahead Product. The serial number will be stored in the registry

setup.exe /silent /sn="XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" /write_sn

Remark: This method works only for retail and for dummy serial numbers. This does not work for OEM serial numbers!

The next start of the product depends on the serial number used:
If the serial number is a valid retail serial number then the product can be used as normal
If the serial number is only a dummy serial number then this serial number can only be used for the installation. The serial number defines the structure of the start menu part of the product. If this dummy serial number is stored in the registry then the Demo button is not there. The user has to enter a valid serial number before the product can be used.
Unattendend and invisible installation of a Webversion:
if you use the SFX file and the installer shall be started invisible and without any user interaction. Then please use the following parameters:
/silent=1 /silent /no_ui
Additional parameters for the unattended installation:
/language=<language>[,<language>]*
Normally English and System language would be installed.
With the language parameter you are able to install additional languages
/setlang=<language> sets the language to use for the application (since Nero 6.3.0.1)
/no_ui Disables the user interface during a silent installation.
/path="<target path>" defines the target path for the installation (ahead folder)
/silent The installer will be started in silent mode.
/silent=1 The Selfextracting-Engine also will be started invisible also
/nocancel Disables "Cancel" button in the "process installation" dialog
/noreboot Disables "Reboot" button in "bye" dialog

Language definitions:
CHT Chinese (Traditional)
CHS Chinese (Simplified)
CSY Czech
DAN Danish
DEU German
ELL Greek
ENG English
ESP Spanish
FIN Finnish
FRA French
HUN Hungarian
ITA Italian
JPN Japanese
KOR Korean
NLD Dutch
NOR Norwegian
PLK Polish
PTB Portuguese (Brazil)
PTG Portuguese
RUS Russian
SKY Slovak
SLV Slovenian
SVE Swedish
TRK Turkish



Thanks goes out to Ahead Customer Services
bilko
no_ui disable the user interface during silent install
prathapml
The best way to know, is to change to the appropriate directory, and then run "setup.exe /?". That will list all available switches with description.
SwedenXP
Like this woot.gif
Adiel
@prathapml

i tried this with babylon but it keeps opening the setup instead of showing available switches :\
prathapml
@bilko
See swedenxp's post - that's what the output of "setup.exe /?" is supposed to look like.

@adiel
Then that means that it can't show its switches - not all installer packages like to show switches.
Adiel
@prathapml
i tried with setup.exe of nero, and same thing, instead of showing me the picture like in SwedenXP replay, the installation is starting.

maybe i'm doing something wrong?i extracted nero63117.exe file, i opened CMD, navigated to nero folder, and wrotten this command
CODE
setup.exe /?
prathapml
For seeing any switches, for administrative setups, and so on, you should normally NOT have that app installed. Un-install nero and retry - might help. smile.gif
Aaron
Its setup.exe /help actually
Adiel
thank u Aaron now its working !! smile.gif

EDIT: only with nero confused.gif no.gif
CypherBit
Don't know if anyone has been experiencing this but I seem the extraction process no matter what I do if I use the SFX file (nero63120.exe) .

This is what I use:
CODE
REG ADD %KEY%\005 /V 1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\Applications\Nero\nero63120.exe /silent=1 /silent /no_ui /sn=xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx /write_sn" /f

also tried without /silent using just /silent=1 and /no_ui didn't help any.

If i extact the SFX archive and use:
CODE
REG ADD %KEY%\005 /V 1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\Applications\Nero\setup.exe /silent /no_ui /sn=xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx /write_sn" /f

Everything works like it's supposed to...there's obviously no extraction screen newwink.gif

The problem with using the 2nd method is that once extracted Nero is quite huge 92,1MB as opposed to 27,7MB when using the SFX.

Any ideas what I could be doing wrong with the SFX version of my RunOnceEx...I really don't want to see anything while installing Nero and using the setup.exe is not a viable alternative since it's so big.
prathapml
The solution I do for that is:
1. Extract the Nero installer (27.x MB) using winrar.
2. Make a silent extracting SFX.
3. Then run the setup from the extracted location during uA install.
swampy
Nero63120.exe is a winrar SFX, it is not locked, so you can open it in winrar & change the mode to hidden {extracting files}. You can also insert a cmd file that regs it & then starts setup.exe, because it's not locked you can change anything you want.
CypherBit
Thank you both, I extracted, made a new SFX archive made sure it's completely silent used /silent /no_ui and it worked flawlessly smile.gif

I have a couple additional questions.
- can the icon of the new SFX I made be changed so it looks like the original of Nero?
- is it possible to use 7-zip instead of WinRAR to make the new SFX...if so how? I assume I'd have to use the cmd line version, do I just put it in my system32 folder?
- Which commands do I have to use in RunOnceEx.cmd to extract/install it if I do use 7-zip?

Hope I'm not asking for too much newwink.gif
Cee-Kay
QUOTE (prathapml @ Aug 26 2004, 02:20 AM)
The solution I do for that is:
1.  Extract the Nero installer (27.x MB) using winrar.
2.  Make a silent extracting SFX.
3.  Then run the setup from the extracted location during uA install.

Adding to prathapml's solution...

When creating the SFX Archive using WinRAR enable the option 'Create solid archive' as well as setting the 'Compression method' to Best. This will reduce the file size as much as possibile, without removing any files.

To configure the SFX options (assuming the Create SFX Option is enabled):

Goto the Advanced tab > SFX Options...

Here is a quick discription of the functions you may need:

General:
  • Specify a program to be run before and/or after extraction e.g. "Setup.exe /silent /noreboot /no_ui /sn=XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX /write_sn" (Recommended).
Modes:
  • Allows extraction to a temporary folder (Recommended)
  • Allows you control the level of Silent-ness (If there's such a word smile.gif) (Recommeded).
Text and icon:
  • Customize the SFX icon.
prathapml
QUOTE (CypherBit @ Aug 26 2004, 05:50 PM)
- is it possible to use 7-zip instead of WinRAR to make the new SFX...if so how? I assume I'd have to use the cmd line version, do I just put it in my system32 folder?
- Which commands do I have to use in RunOnceEx.cmd to extract/install it if I do use 7-zip?
No extra actions needed - just tell 7-zip (while compressing) to make it SFX, so that you don't need any extra executable to be placed in "System32" folder.

And then, use this switch to extract:
CODE
-y /q /r:n -o<your_path>

Here's an example from my batch-files (runs directly from CD, so there's no environment variables used)
CODE
start /wait GUIsetup\apps\NAV2k3pro.exe -y /q /r:n -o%SYSTEMDRIVE%\install\Applications

start /wait %SYSTEMDRIVE%\install\Applications\NAV2k3pro\NAV\NAV.MSI /QB-!
CypherBit
@Cee-Kay: thank you didn't know some of those options were available...will sure use them in the future.

@prathapml: thank you as well that helped me out a lot.

This is what I currently have (using 7-zip SFX of course):
CODE
REG ADD %KEY%\005 /VE /D "Nero Burning ROM 6.3.1.20" /f
REG ADD %KEY%\005 /V 1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\Applications\Nero\nero63120.exe -y /q /r:n
REG ADD %KEY%\005 /V 2 /D "%systemdrive%\install\Applications\Nero\setup.exe /silent /no_ui /sn=xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx /write_sn" /f


It extracts and installs Nero like it's supposed to but it does have one "defect" and that is that I see the extraction process...deja vu newwink.gif . I now know how to fix that when dealing with WinRAR SFX archives now but have no idea if and how this can be done with 7-zip SFX archives.

I know I asked about the cmd line version of 7-zip b4 (I'd like to avoid using it if possible) but would that help?

Could I use cmdow or anything else to hide it...how?

Thx again for all your replies...helpful indeed.
SiMoNsAyS
don't know if it help but this works for me with nero 6.3.1.10
CODE
ECHO.
ECHO Instalando Nero Burning Rom 6.3.1.10
ECHO Por favor espera...
start /wait %CDROM%\Software\Nero\nero63110.exe /silent /noreboot /no_ui /sn=XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX /write_sn
start /wait %CDROM%\Software\Nero\NBR63110esp.exe /s

and for NBR63110esp.exe (spanish language pack to rar sfx) this code
CODE
;The comment below contains SFX script commands

Setup=setup.exe /SFX
TempMode
Silent=2
Overwrite=1
Title=Nero 6.0- 6.3.1.10 Ahead Software AG
CypherBit
@SiMoNsAyS not sure u understood me fully unsure.gif . I what I'm looking for is something (switch, utility,...) that will be able to hide the extraction process of 7-zip SFX archives, I have no problems hiding it if I use WinRAR SFX archives.
BAM
Correct me if i'm wrong here, but i read the thread over and over, why all the difficult things? Why use 7-zip and create new sfx archives, The executable has it allready in itself!! Swampy allready said so a couple of post up..
For me it works completely silent, invisible and no extraction showing up. thumbup.gif

Simply open the nero63120.exe with WinRAR.
Hit the comment tab and change it in:
CODE
;The comment below contains SFX script commands

Setup=setup.exe /SFX /SN=XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX /WRITE_SN /SILENT /NO_UI /NOCANCEL /NOREBOOT
TempMode
Silent=1
Overwrite=1
Title=Nero 6.0- 6.3.1.20 Ahead Software AG

See the change from Silent=2 into Silent=1 !

Forgot if you still have to set these also here:
CODE
REG ADD %KEY%\005 /V 1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\Applications\Nero\nero63120.exe/SN=XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX /WRITE_SN /SILENT /NO_UI /NOCANCEL /NOREBOOT" /f


Or that you can just execute like:
CODE
REG ADD %KEY%\005 /V 1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\Applications\Nero\nero63120.exe" /f


If i completely misunderstood the post, sorry, then let me know and forget about it and keep up the good work! just trying to help...
CypherBit
Yes swampy, Cee-Kay and prathapml said everything (and more) I wanted to know about WinRAR SFX archives but I prefer to use 7-zip for the sole reason cause it compresses better 21,8MB compared to 27,7MB for a WinRAR SFX archive...I am tight on space.

I know how to use WinRAR SFX archives now...everything extracts and installs silently.
I also got the switches for 7-zip (check my previous posts) but I c the extraction process and i don't want to c it. If there's no switch for hiding the extraction process of 7-zip archives I won't use them, will got back to WinRAR SFX.

Hope this clears up everything newwink.gif
BAM
AAAH, okay, this i understand! (again - points for me tho)
hmmm.. more than 6MB difference that's the main thing, interesting info woot.gif
Sorry, can't help you with that one.

So i hope you allready have forgotten about me and my post !! tongue.gif
SiMoNsAyS
@CypherBit ok now i understand, i think it was just a switches problem. it's probably that with 7zip you will free more space on your cd. anyway here are the switches simply create a new 7zip-sfx and add'em thumbup.gif
CypherBit
@BAM yea size is the only reason why I want to do this...forgotten

@SiMoNsAyS I don't follow u one bit "anyway here are the switches simply create a new 7zip-sfx and add'em" pls take a look at this post and other posts by me once again.
prathapml
To hide 7-zip extraction GUI window is not possible. One option might be to use the command-line 7zip extractor EXE, and use CMDOW to hide the subsequent window. Or, XPlode allows you to hide windows with specific titles too - so you could use that instead!

Hey CipherBit, my nero 7zip SFX is only 18.7 MB....
Its funny how people assume that all files within an installer will be needed. You can go into the "Redist" folder of Nero-installer, and delete the DLLs that aren't needed (first confirm that the DLLs you delete are present with windows itself, or come from any other app - in most cases, WXPSP2 has latest versions of all essential DLLs except for COMCTL32.OCX). Carry out some testing, and you'll eventually find out which files are safe to delete - its a variable list based on what other apps you install - so I can't tell you which ones to delete. Just try deleting all DLLs, and restore them one by one, until setup stops complaining about missing files.

Hoping this helps....
SiMoNsAyS
QUOTE (CypherBit @ Aug 28 2004, 11:14 AM)
@SiMoNsAyS I don't follow u one bit "anyway here are the switches simply create a new 7zip-sfx and add'em" pls take a look at this post and other posts by me once again.

@CypherBit i wanted to mean that you know the method and the switches it's only a matter of time tongue.gif . sorry but hide the window it's probably impossible (at least using the 7zip or nero self gui i think). repeating me i will recommend the use of winrar. it compress less than 7zip, but you can gain that space removing dlls that you don't need like prathapml said, and u han hide the window 2.
CypherBit
@prathapml: was afraid u were gonna say that smile.gif reffering to " To hide 7-zip extraction GUI window is not possible" . I never used Xplode as u probably noticed I'm a RunOnceEx man so I don't think I'll take that route. On the other hand cmd line 7-zip exe is more appealing to me. But what I don't know is how to use it, looked at their site, forums and haven't found much.
My questions are:
- where do I need to put it, the .exe that is
- which switch should I use (would be great if someone already has it in their RunOnceEx and could paste it)
- how would I go about using CMDOW to hide that particular window

Thx for the heads up on deleting parts that aren't needed. I got rid off a few dll's but then said to myself...there's tons of options/apps I never use in Nero so I started removing those as well. To name a few I never use (or use alternative software): BackItUp, Cover Designer, ImageDrive, SoundTrax, Wave Editor. I also removed Nero Check. My Nero.exe 7-zip SFX is 15.2 MB atm. I will definitely delete a few audio plugins in the future, since I only burn mp3s. Of course Nero complains about all those missing files so what I did is I put dummy files there instead.

The reason I'm insisting on the use of 7-zip SFX isn't just cause of Nero, I'd use it elsewhere and would also learn something new...hope someone will be kind enough to help me out.

@SiMoNsAyS thank you as well for your suggestion...I will go the WinRAR SFX way...if 7-zip SFX fails.

EDIT: removed the audio plugins I never use burned an audio CD just to see if everything works, had no problems...7-zip SFX archive is 13.9 MB atm.
prathapml
@CypherBit
You've given a cool idea - to replace the existing file with a 0 byte dummy! Why didn't I think of it before? blink.gif

Well, as for the command-line extraction of 7-zip archives, do this:
1. Download and install 7-zip.
2. copy away the command-line EXE from the installed folder into "$OEM$\$$\system32".
3. then run that exe from the batch-file to extract your 7zip'ed archive (not SFX), for example:
CODE
start /wait 7z.exe -y /q /r:n -o<your_path> %systemdrive%\install\file.7z

Do post back on how it goes. thumbup.gif
CypherBit
Finally got some time and started testing...came up with this and as far as I can tell it works superbly.

RunOnceEx.cmd:
CODE
REG ADD %KEY%\065 /VE /D "Nero Burning ROM 6.3.1.20" /f
REG ADD %KEY%\065 /V 1 /D "%systemdrive%\install\Applications\Nero\unpack.cmd" /f
REG ADD %KEY%\065 /V 2 /D "%systemdrive%\install\Applications\Nero\setup.exe /silent /no_ui /sn=xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx /write_sn" /f
REG ADD %KEY%\065 /V 3 /D "REGEDIT /S %systemdrive%\Install\Applications\Nero\NeroCheck.reg" /f

unpack.cmd:
CODE
cmdow @ /HID

7z.exe x -y "%systemdrive%\Install\Applications\Nero\Nero.7z" -o"%systemdrive%\Install\Applications\"

EXIT

NeroCheck.reg
CODE
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg\NeroFilterCheck]
"key"="SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVersion\\Run"
"item"="NeroCheck"
"hkey"="HKLM"
"command"="C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\NeroCheck.exe"
"inimapping"="0"


I'm attaching 3 files DefaultNero.txt (default Nero Burning ROM Nero Burning ROM 6.3.1.20 extracted), MyNero.txt (same as b4 but my version) and Differences.html which gives a detailed comparison of the differences between them. BTW it's pretty easy to c what I changed since they r all 0 byte, the ones I deleted r a bit harder to spot, that's y I made that report. My Nero.7z is 14.5 MB atm.
An additional note I also removed (put 0 byte dummy's there) all *.ocx files Nero had no problems installing but after reboot I got a warning something is missing, only got that once but I always got nwe_reg?.txt files in my default Nero folder warning me of the missing files...so I decided to include them.

esp @prathapml (would be nice if I got them from others as well) I would be very greatefull if u attached/send me a similar file to mine "MyNero.txt" so I'd c what exactly u've changed/got rid off. I'm aware the list is variable but it would still make it a lot easier to track down/delete the unneeded files.

EDIT: I'm using 7za.exe instead of 7z.exe now since it is standalone.
prathapml
@CypherBit
Great to hear that it works fine - you've literally put up a mini-howto on reducing nero install in the post above. thumbup.gif


As for the files deletion thing, I'd expect that replacing (with 0-byte files) any other files than the below on XPSP2 US-English should cause problems (like it did when you removed OCX'es):
QUOTE
Nero\Common Files\AudioPlugins\mp3PRO_dmo.dll  (68,00 KB)
Nero\Nero BackItUp\BackItUp-Deu.nls  (344,00 KB)
Nero\Nero BackItUp\NBJ-Deu.nls  (80,00 KB)
Nero\Nero BackItUp\NBR-Deu.nls  (68,00 KB)
Nero\nero soundtrax\SoundTrax-Deu.nls  (740,00 KB)
Nero\Nero\DosBootimage.IMA  (1,41 MB)
Nero\Nero\nerocd95.vxd  (38,95 KB)
Nero\Nero\Nerodeu.nls  (5,68 MB)
Nero\Nero\Nerodeu.txt  (42,22 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_dan.msg  (14,11 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_deu.msg  (16,15 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_esp.msg  (15,65 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_fin.msg  (14,58 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_fra.msg  (16,26 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_hun.msg  (15,15 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_ita.msg  (15,01 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_jpn.msg  (14,27 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_nld.msg  (14,84 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_nor.msg  (14,12 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_ptg.msg  (15,99 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_rus.msg  (14,23 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_sve.msg  (14,83 KB)
Nero\Nero\nres_trk.msg  (14,08 KB)

Nero\Nero Wave Editor\waveedit-deu.nls
Nero\Nero Wave Editor\vplugins-deu.nls
Nero\CoverDesigner\covered-deu.nls

Nero\setup\Eula_chs.txt  (10,08 KB)
Nero\setup\Eula_cht.txt  (10,76 KB)
Nero\setup\Eula_deu.txt  (21,94 KB)
Nero\setup\Eula_esp.txt  (16,88 KB)
Nero\setup\Eula_fra.txt  (17,56 KB)
Nero\setup\Eula_ita.txt  (17,85 KB)
Nero\setup\Eula_jpn.txt  (13,61 KB)
Nero\setup\Eula_kor.txt  (12,78 KB)
Nero\setup\Eula_nld.txt  (17,58 KB)
Nero\setup\Eula_ptg.txt  (18,07 KB)
Nero\setup\Eula_sve.txt  (16,21 KB)



[the particular set of files below is highly variable - check if your windows installation already has these files or newer versions before deleting]Nero\Redist\50comupd.exe  (498,03 KB)
Nero\Redist\gdiplus.DLL  (1,63 MB)
Nero\Redist\mfc42.DLL  (972,05 KB)
Nero\Redist\MSVCP60.DLL  (392,05 KB)
Nero\Redist\msvcrt.dll  (284,05 KB)
Nero\Redist\shfolder.exe  (114,54 KB)
In plain language (for everybody), the list above is about files safe to delete from the installer (but your mileage may vary confused.gif). As is clear from cypherbit's How-To (in the post above), the maximum benefit (and least loss) is from cleaning out the Redist folder.
CypherBit
I replaced (with 0-byte files) these files in addition:
CODE
Nero\Boo.wav
Nero\DingDong.wav
Nero\DosBootimage.IMA
Nero\nerocd95.vxd
Nero\Nerodeu.nls
Nero\nres_dan.msg
Nero\nres_deu.msg
Nero\nres_esp.msg
Nero\nres_fin.msg
Nero\nres_fra.msg
Nero\nres_hun.msg
Nero\nres_ita.msg
Nero\nres_jpn.msg
Nero\nres_nld.msg
Nero\nres_nor.msg
Nero\nres_ptg.msg
Nero\nres_rus.msg
Nero\nres_sve.msg
Nero\nres_trk.msg
Nero\Trumpet1.wav
Redist\msvcrt.dll

Also wanted to remove Nero\Redist\MSVCP60.DLL but I kept getting "Unable to load plug-in manager" when opening Nero Express.

After all these deletions I'm left with Nero Burning ROM, Nero Express and the entire Nero Toolkit everything else is gone. My Nero.7z is 12.5 MB big atm...quite sure this is as far as I can go. I did quite a bit of testing and the above progs all work without glitches as far as I can tell...I sure hope that will be the case when I decide to format...I'm quite confident it will.
BAM
@ CypherBit / prathapml
I'm trying to keep up with you both (in silence this time whistling.gif )
Do you think there is a possibillity to make something like a batch/cmd file for it to automate the process?? woot.gif

I'm willing to try/test it here on my machine, and see if it all works and give's no glitches at all in real life environment!
Or am i asking to much now?? sad.gif

just a thought...
CypherBit
@BAM
If u want to test my Nero.7z I can send it to u without any problems just PM me and it's yours (same for anyone else, it would be great if u never had Nero on your machine newwink.gif ). The process could be automated but as stated above up to a point since there r some variables. I'd just like to add that mine and prathapml's approach to this is a bit different, yes we r both trying to reduce Nero but as far as I can tell prathapml doesn't want to lose any functionality and I do. That is why I got rid off all these apps which I never use: BackItUp, Cover Designer, ImageDrive, Nero SoundTrax, Nero Wave Editor, Nero StartSmart.
prathapml
QUOTE (CypherBit @ Aug 30 2004, 04:20 AM)
mine and prathapml's approach to this is a bit different, yes we r both trying to reduce Nero but as far as I can tell prathapml doesn't want to lose any functionality and I do.
Right about that buddy. newwink.gif

And, I was thinking......
We already have windows and office shrinker programs here on MSFN, maybe someone will see this thread and make a nero componentized shrinking app, for the use of others - who knows? biggrin.gif
CypherBit
QUOTE (prathapml @ Aug 30 2004, 03:23 AM)
We already have windows and office shrinker programs here on MSFN, maybe someone will see this thread and make a nero componentized shrinking app, for the use of others - who knows?

That would be great indeed. I'd do it myself but don't have the necessary skills...so I'll probably just make a .cmd that deletes all the files I don't need and have a folder with 0-byte dummy's somewhere on the HDD which will be appropriately copied into the folders. That way I'll be able to update to newer versions of Nero in a breeze.
Muaitai
QUOTE (Cee-Kay @ Aug 26 2004, 02:48 PM)
QUOTE (prathapml @ Aug 26 2004, 02:20 AM)
The solution I do for that is:
1.  Extract the Nero installer (27.x MB) using winrar.
2.  Make a silent extracting SFX.
3.  Then run the setup from the extracted location during uA install.

Adding to prathapml's solution...

When creating the SFX Archive using WinRAR enable the option 'Create solid archive' as well as setting the 'Compression method' to Best. This will reduce the file size as much as possibile, without removing any files.

To configure the SFX options (assuming the Create SFX Option is enabled):

Goto the Advanced tab > SFX Options...

Here is a quick discription of the functions you may need:

General:
  • Specify a program to be run before and/or after extraction e.g. "Setup.exe /silent /noreboot /no_ui /sn=XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX /write_sn" (Recommended).
Modes:
  • Allows extraction to a temporary folder (Recommended)
  • Allows you control the level of Silent-ness (If there's such a word smile.gif) (Recommeded).
Text and icon:
  • Customize the SFX icon.

This works perfectly for me...
prathapml
Its not very considerate to quote ENTIRE LARGE POSTS just to add a one-line reply at the end. You should only quote the part that you're responding to, and in cases like the above, just a post saying
"Cee-kay's method on the first page works perfectly for me"
would be sufficient.

Hoping that members will be considerate enough to keep that in mind for the next time. smile.gif
Muaitai
Sorry, just trying to help.
godan
Just Few more safe files to add to prathapml's "safe to remove for an english install with full functionality" list

Nero\Nero Wave Editor\waveedit-deu.nls
Nero\Nero Wave Editor\vplugins-deu.nls
Nero\CoverDesigner\covered-deu.nls
prathapml
QUOTE (godan @ Aug 31 2004, 11:37 PM)
Just  Few more safe files to add to prathapml's "safe to remove for an english install with full functionality" list

Nero\Nero Wave Editor\waveedit-deu.nls
Nero\Nero Wave Editor\vplugins-deu.nls
Nero\CoverDesigner\covered-deu.nls

Thanks for that addition - updated! smile.gif
eagle00789
QUOTE (prathapml @ Aug 29 2004, 01:16 PM)
<snip>
QUOTE
Nero\Nero\DosBootimage.IMA  (1,41 MB)

<snip>

When i deleteted the above file, i was unable to create a working bootable cd or dvd. so when i put that file back into place, everything works like a charm again.
prathapml
Its not been of use ever since we outgrew win98 emergency boot-disks. Not everybody needs it, and not everybody wants it - and it saves on a fair bit of space, so I don't keep it.

Also, you can just put your bootable floppy and make a boot image from it and use that as your boot-sector if you so want.
bonedaddy
Ok Cypherbit
finally got around to testing your creation.

QUOTE
Batch file

Echo.
color 0c
ECHO Installing Nero.7z Burning ROM 6.3.1.20
ECHO Please wait...
start /wait %systemdrive%\install\hotfiles\nero\unpack.cmd
start /wait %systemdrive%\install\hotfiles\nero\setup.exe /silent /no_ui /sn=xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx /write_sn
REGEDIT /S %systemdrive%\install\hotfiles\NeroCheck.reg
REGEDIT /S %systemdrive%\install\hotfiles\register.reg

unpack cmd

CLS
@echo off
color ec
7z.exe x -y "%systemdrive%\Install\hotfiles\Nero\Nero.7z" -o"%systemdrive%\Install\hotfiles\"

EXIT



added to nLite cmd for clean up

DEL "%UserProfile%\Desktop\Nero StartSmart.lnk"
DEL "%UserProfile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\Nero StartSmart.lnk"

then added the "nero burning rom" icon to my Quick Launch folder 

works fine

thanks bonedaddy


made a few changes to work in batch just minor ones
tommyp
Thought I can add my $.02. I crafted a mini batch file that will hopefully help out with automating this process. It's probably not the cleanest as I'm not really an IT guy. If you have winrar, you can run the CMD file directly, otherwise you'll need some editting. Create a new folder called whatever you like. Put three files into it.
1. The Nero installer renamed to "neroinstall.exe"
2. The following file called FIX.CMD

CODE
CLS
@echo off

ECHO Deleting working files if previously run
if exist files1.txt del /q files1.txt
if exist files2.txt del /q files2.txt
if exist files.txt del /q files.txt
if exist filesfinal.txt del /q filesfinal.txt
if exist swap.cmd del /q swap.cmd
Echo

Echo extracting Nero
"%ProgramFiles%\winrar\rar.exe" x neroinstall.exe

Echo Get directory listing (delete folder names and working files)
dir /B /S > files1.txt
findstr /C:. files1.txt > files2.txt
findstr /v "fix.cmd fix2.cmd files1.txt blank.txt filter.txt neroinstall.exe" files2.txt > files.txt
del /q files1.txt
del /q files2.txt

Echo Make final listing of files to swap
findstr /i /G:filter.txt files.txt > filesfinal.txt
del files.txt

Echo Preparing zerobyte file
Echo. > blank.txt

for /f "usebackq delims==" %%1 in (filesfinal.txt) do echo copy /y blank.txt "%%1" >>swap.cmd
swap.cmd


3. Last file is called FILTER.TXT. It's just list what files you want as zero byte files. There's no need to put the full extension. Some of the guys on the forum started listing some zero byte ones on pages 3-5 of this thread.

Maybe someone is crafty on figuring a textline approach of creating an SFX installer to add to this CMD file.

Hope this helps us figure out a quicker way to make a smaller installer.
^_^
QUOTE (SwedenXP @ Aug 22 2004, 10:25 AM)
This works for me  biggrin.gif

Place it in Your main_batch.cmd and You can do both the install and register it at the same time  biggrin.gif

ECHO Installing Nero 6.3.1.20
ECHO Please wait...
start /wait %systemdrive%\install\Nero\nero63120.exe /silent /noreboot /no_ui /sn=xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx /write_sn
ECHO.

/ SwedenXP

this always works for me thumbup.gif
tysidor
For anyone who cares I have been using a method that I haven't seen mentioned. Is what I did was create a registry entry and add it to my $OEM$ folder and then I altered my cmdlines.txt to run the registry entry. This allowed the registry entry to take place before the installation process. Then I used the following switches in my start.cmd to install silently. It worked perfect. Hope this helps some people.

Example of cmdlines.txt

[COMMANDS]
"useraccounts.cmd"
"REGEDIT /S regtweaks.reg"
"REGEDIT /S Nero6RegEntry.reg"
"REGEDIT /S Norton2004Key.reg"

Example of my Nero6RegEntry.reg

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ahead\Nero - Burning Rom\Info]
"Company"=""
"Serial6"="XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX"
"User"="Your Name"


Example of my start.cmd

ECHO.
ECHO Installing Nero Burning ROM v6.6.0.1
ECHO Please wait...
start /wait %systemdrive%\install\Applications\Nero6\nero6.6.0.1.exe /silent /noreboot
ECHO.




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