have you tried: http://www.real.com?

i tried, but didnt find anything to test

http://movies.guide.real.com/

maybe this would help...

try this one f.ex.:
http://www.cinemovies.fr/fiche_multimedia.php?IDfilm=2104

you forgot the "exit" command in ur cmd in the current version...

thanks, added to changelog

update, see 1st post

nice! ...10/14/04 version slipstreamed!

edit: i've removed zoom player 4 entries and replaced them for media player classic, on next installation i'll test if it works

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nice, post them here, if they do and I'll also add them as option

readme.txt in the current package is still from v2.1 with it's change log

i want to compress the whole codec package as *.cab, then expand it during the installation by a batch

anyone can tell me what commandos i have to add to my *.cmd to automatical this methode?



plz only as Dos/bat/cmd commandos because i will intergrate it in the unattended windows

THX

well, since you wanna do a cab sorta thing, I would look into making an optional component...take gosh's aim optional component, and ryanvm's hotfix pack...both of those are optional components...I must say, I wouldnt recommend this for the codec pack, but it is your choice, I cant really think of any downfalls...The information is on this board...the main reason I am not telling you how to do it is because its very tedious and takes a lot of work...but if you search for optional component you should find my post and gosh's post...be sure to look at ryanvm's hotfix pack (it doesnt use the words optional component in the post, i dont believe)

i will pack ist because it is a little bit big... but tips /alternatives are welcome

You can get CabPack from here.
Commandline should be

"-f:*" for all files to extract
"SourceCab" for where your cab is
"%systemroot\system32\" for extract location.

ooo-la-la!

Anyone wanna do one for BSPlayer?

@MHz thx you

i've thought about that but wasn't sure bsplayer can play .rm and .mov movies (i'm 90% sure not although i haven't test it)

i'll post files if successful

Elecard MPEG2 Video Trial Decoders expire after 30 days. These are mpeg2dmx.ax and mpgdec.ax. I am afraid we will have to remove these.

Found a bug with your installer:

In the .cmd file you have:
They should be:
Note the \ on the end of the paths.

If you don't have these, it saves the preferences as "QuickTimeQuickTime.qtb" in the application data directory.

thanks, you are right, but your code is also wrong

this works!

@swgreed ar these trial decoders?

lol... your right... didn't notice that. I had it right in my cmd file.. must of written it wrong when I posted.

Oh yeah, here are the entries needed to associate WMP with .mov, .qt, .ra, .rm and .ram:
Are there any other file formats I should know about?

@RaveRod are we sure that we can play those files with wmp10? if that's the case for sure i'll move from media player classic

Using this codec pack I can play all the files listed above.

That's how I got the registy tweaks in the first place... Play one of those files without the above registry edits and you'll get a warning about an unrecognized file type but clicking "Yes" will play it without a hitch.

@RaveRod, since it seems you've done some testing, do all other files play within WMP? I know WMP I believe will open the files anyways, but do they play, or have you found some that will not and cause WMP to crash?

Don't know (I thought only the elecard player is a trial)... if these won't work, I'll switch back to the ones that came with the K-Lite pack. They'll work.

Kind of on-topic, but kind of off-topic. I want to change the variable to %SysDir% which points to C:\Windows\System32. Personally, I think this should be a default variable in Windows, I find it so useful. I mean, they duplicate C:\Windows as WinDir and SystemRoot, but no Windows\System32 variable? I know how to add it to environment variables AFTER installing XP, but how do I add it automatically during the setup? I know how to use set SysDir=blah, but that only works for that session. Anyone know of a way to permanently add this as a variable? Thanks.

@evilvoice: I've yet to find a file format (that I have the codec installed for) that won't work in WMP. All the media files I have work without any problems so far.

There have been some sync issues with some files but I think that's just cause my computers slow.

@RaveRod...are you only using this codec pack? Im sure it plays everything, but would like some replies saying it plays everything LOL...also about sync issues, if your playing a divx avi, its not how slow your pc is (mine is quick and I still get sync problems) if its other than divx, then I dunno (I almost am willing to bet its divx LOL)

Hi,

For start, great work

I just want to know, if it's possible to have Real and WMV video stream in Firefox ?

Thx

in theory you can do that on your own:


after that you should be able to perform operations like


the only negative point is:
you must be sure you install XP on c:\

alternatively you can try if that works:


this way you're not restricted to c:\ (you can also install on d:\ an the batch points to the right direction

(note: i've tested neither versions i described here)

So if I wanted to associate all these codecs to play in WMP10, what REG keys do I need to update?

as @RaveRod suggested

Yeah, I saw his post, but didn't find any of the Registry keys he was talking about. As a matter of fact, HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\Extensions\ doesn't exist in my registry (this is with a fresh install of SP2 and WMP10. My folder only goes to HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\.

I'm thinking that his settings are for an earlier version of WMP.

@Powerhouse: They don't exist by default... The "extensions" registry key is only created once you add your own extensions.

So using the lite pack (the one without Real Media, or Quicktime), would the registry keys look like this (or do I need the HKCR entries too?)...




Am I missing any, or does this look complete?

@Powerhouse: Those keys will disable the "This file is not a recognised media file" errors when you open a file.

You will also need the HKCR keys to actually associate them with WMP.

Also, keys like ".wmv" and ".mpg" and ".avi" are kinda pointless.. they're associated with WMP by default.

I don't know the HKCR keys for the other files... I generally just open them the first time and associate them that way.

There's new QT Alternative 1.36, I guess it's time to update eh?

QuickTime Alternative 1.36 & Real Alternative 1.28

Both got the same changelog:


Not really anything to update here...

i have just installed a clean real-world test of my xpcd.

included, was codec 2.2.

however, i cannot seem to be able to play real files (.RAM)

what program am i supposed to use to play them? WIndows media, and bsplayer both dont play them.


EDIT:
When i go here:
http://www.cinemovies.fr/fiche_multimedia.php?IDfilm=2104
i see the video fine (when i click real player)

so what do i need to do to play a .ram file that is saved on my comp?

Hi a06lp.
They wouldn't play real or quick files.
You need Classic media player for that or Zoomplayer (free).
From my expirience it's better to use codecs pack 1.3 and RealAlternative and QickTime Alternative.
Why? Because simple asigning rm or qt extentions to Windows Media player 9 or 10 doesn't mean it would play these movies. What it does - it removes warning messege and that it. Since version 6 it doesn't.
moo

sorry but this is false, my unattended pack works flawlessly and i'm able to watch real and quicktime streaming movies and i can play .rm and .mov with wmp10.

i dont have wmp10, but why wouldnt the .ram files work with the media player included with xp or bsplayer?

Phew..... Just spend an hour reading through this post... Now questions.........



I don't understand why is the need of Encoder. Since if they need to encode they will need Virtual Dub, GK and Avisyth .. etc to install seperately. The majawrity of user only play files. ( Then of course i can remove it myself )



1. Why do i need all these? Shouldn't Window Media 10 Decoder plays back all previous WMV /WMA/WM files?

2. I though Windows Media 9 VCM was for playing Windows Media in AVI contaniner. Therfore it is not a Encoder?



What is the situation? I read it is a trial version? What are the planned replacement?



I don't have problem with Fraunhofer Decoder. But i don't agree with Encoder. Because according to Listening test Lame is Much better. I will find some reference to back this statement when i am back to my place.

@All.
You can't play ALL real content because none of the player avalible fully support SMIL / SML. Therefore some Real Streaming content will not play. I haven't try Mplayer yet but as far as i know MPC, BSplayer, ZoomPlayer don't support SMIL/SML fully.

@swgreed
Thx for your codec pack. I have some spare 10-20Gb Bandwidth if you need some mirror

First at all it's not my rules, but M$
Check this out Mediafiles formats.
Second show me a prove that your Windows Media Player 10 plays rm files when you do clean installation with SP2 integrated without adding an other stuff (I mean extra players and so on), just codecs. Give me exact description your system, it shrinked by nlite, if yes how and so on. It's a lot of components involved here, and I would be happy to use only WMP on my systems.
Plus, I tell him my own experience, from trying it on my system before publishing unatendend pack info without any luck.
Third, if your system works fine it doesn't means that all systems would works fine too, and other people are layers! No one here is running real testing of all suggestions or recomendations. How many people have good experience with that? How many different PC were tested? Do you know? I'm not!
For example: I don't have any problem with my unatandend CD that many people asking here. So what does it mean?
Noting, I have different system that you do. That's it.
thanks.
moo

On the RM and QT in WMP thing... I've tested this using the following:

34 different computers ranging from P2-400mhz to P4-3.06ghz to Athlon XP's and an Athlon 64.

10 different Windows XP configurations ranging from a standard Windows XP SP1 CD-Rom to a Windows XP SP2 CD-Rom to an nLite Windows XP SP2 CD-Rom to a standard unattended Windows XP SP2 CD-Rom.

Different installation methods of this pack from integrating into the installation to just adding this pack and running from RunOnceEx to installing after Windows manually.

Using WMP10, WMP9, WMP8 and MP2.

All tests were successfull at playing WMA/V, DivX, XVid, RealMedia, QuickTime, MP3, DVD (basically all the codecs in this pack).

NO modifications were done to this pack. I didn't even import the registry entries I outlined earlier.

All I did was download a random .rm, .ram and .qt file from the net and p2p. Double-clicked the file and selected WMP to open it. After clicking OK to the warning in WMP, the files played WITHOUT ANY problems.

In other words, WMP should play RM and QT files... If it doesn't, then there must be some configuration errors at your end (I may get flamed for saying that).

One of the nLite CD's even had WMP9 removed and WMP10 installed after installation and it STILL worked.

There is NO reason WMP shouldn't play those files. WMP opens the media file, looks for the code to tell it what codec is required then looks if that codec is installed on your system. All media players should do that.

@moo: That link you have there is for codecs supported by WMP "out of the box". For instance, that page doesn't say it supports DivX and XVid avi files but with the right codec installed it will play them. The same is true for QT and RM files.

If you want to verify this, download QuickTime from the QuickTime website, install it and then open a .qt in WMP... You'll see that WMP will play the file (or at least it should).

I hope this clears some things up for some people. Sorry for the long post.

I won't flame you (YET), but I am going to be forced to ask the obvious question:

why is it that some .ram files wont play for me in WMP 9.00.00.3290 (standard XP version)?

I did a CLEAN real-world install or my XPCD, and I downloaded some random .ram files...

however, it isnt that not ALL work, its that some work. earlier in the thread there was a link to some movie trailers, which worked fine for me, playing in the browser. but when i open some files, they just wont work...

how about you point me towards some of the one that worked for you, so i can test on my machine?

ok guys first clarify a couple of things:
.ram format is from real media, only a small kb that you can edit with notepad. that's why you CAN'T watch it, because alone can't be played. it's a streaming format and you need to be connected.
.ra means real audio format and can be played with wmp10 with real alternative codecs.
.rm means real media (video) format, same from above.

@iwod why those encoders if you only want decoders? because there are a few people (like me) that wants to have an option in vdub and want to convert between formats. it's not matter of space or money because they are free and their size is not bigger than a few kb.

@moo i don't need to show proves, sorry but does not worth for me if people believe what i say or not, what do i gain lying? anyway i can tell you that my unattended cd (biohazard project at the bottom) is slipstreamed with this codec pack and raverod's reg-suggestions and works perfect again (my browser is firefox).

so you're saying that ANY .ram file will not work?

only .ra and .rm will work?