Ok I'm getting really confused. I did a search to find what exactly is contained in .net 3.5 redistributable. And there is basically no documentation I can find on it. According to fenyo it contains all of 2.0 and 3.0. Which would make sense because I don't see a link provided to download 2.0, only hotfixes and service packs.


So can someone clarify that 3.5 redistributable contains all of 2.0 and 3.0 and not just the service packs?


So I take this to say that .NET 3.5 SP1 full redistributable does not contain the .net 2.0 or .net 3.0? This is confusing because if it only contains the service packs why is it so huge? Those service packs are like 16MB aren't they?

If I look at 3.5 redistributable and break it down based on the same grammar syntax then you are saying that it does not contain full installs for 2.0 and 3.0, but only the service packs for them. If that's the case where do I get 2.0 from?

If someone who does a FULL synthesis could please share the actual _SNMsynth.ini and directory contents this would help shed some light on this for me.

I don't understand how I can download both the 3.5 redistributable and 3.5 SP1 redistributable and have them in the same directory without modifying at least one file name.

Thanks,
C

2.0 SP#, 3.0 SP# and 3.5 SP# are not SPs are full frameworks versions (each one) updated to this SP# (of its own). You probably are trying to build updated installers for XP. Download 3.5 SP1 redistributable and updates for 2.0 SP2, 3.0 SP2 and 3.5 SP1, you don't need 3.5 redistributable (2.0 SP1, 3.0 SP1 and 3.5) unless you want any of the versions outdated. You don't need need NetFx20SP1_x86.exe because you have one 2.0 in .NET 3.5 SP1 redistributable. OK?
It's easy believe me.

I want to start by saying thank you. I know it can be very frustrating trying to explain something to someone of a different native langauge, made even harder when the material is of a technical nature. Again, thanks for not getting to frustrated with me.

So can I also download .net 1.1 redistributable and its two hotfixes (NDP1.1sp1-KB928366-X86.exe and NDP1.1sp1-KB947742-X86.exe hotfix) and synthesize/integrate into a single installer in one shot? This was my assumption several post ago and nobody said it was correct, so I'm worried it is not correct.

Thanks Again,
C
EDIT:

I have attached my _SNMsynth.ini file. Now I get this:


I'm going to assume I did this correctly and test the install of it now.

C

Yes, correctly for updated complete set of .NET frameworks for XP or 2003. This merged installer should be used on first logon.

Thank you very much for your help and your patience.

I've tested it as a standalone on a couple systems and it seems to work perfectly. I'll now use HFSLIP and test it in the HFGUIRUNONCE folder to see if it I can successfully integrate it into my XP disc.

Thanks again,

ss3

Not just with admin install.
If i install the original pack (not admin install), it's showed size 10MB, but MS Update offers me 3.0 Langpack again! So it seems it's not just an admin-install problem.




I think this is because English XP doesn't need any language packs at all, so if an installed langpack is corrupted, it won't offer any, because it doesn't need one.


As i mentioned above, the standalone 3.0 SP2 Langpack install (not admin install; and i've installed xpsepsclangpack manually) does the same(MS Update problem) with installed size 10MB.


You've said, that the 4 lacking file actually does not get into the system. What happens, if we just copy these files from an other language to hungarian Admin install? I think i'll try it...

These 4 are not present in many other langpacks with the same structure, and don't generate problems. I don't think they are culprit of anything.

Ok.
Then we have to tell M$ to repair their package.
(but i'm afraid it can take months...)

There's problems when installing 3.0 SP2 from .NET 3.5 SP1 redistributable under some XP x86 localized versions:
- If you install english version (dotnetfx35.exe /lang:ENU), windows/ms update prompts you to download 3.0 SP0 langpack standalone.
- If you install some language to the english version windows/ms update prompts you to download the same 3.0 SP0 langpack standalone KB928416:
---> when installing dotnetfx35.exe normally, the installer downloads the language files, if you're connected, obviously
---> or when you install it from .NET 3.5 SP1 langpack standalone
---> or when you install it from a 3.0 SP2 language administrative install (aka SNM installers) generated from standalone langpack
In all install scenarios of 3.0 SP2 under hungarian XP are the same.

So, what's happening?

I think there's a problem with 3.0 SP2 framework under some XP X86 (maybe 2003 too).
It doesn't matter how you install it (with or without language), windows/ms update prompts you to download 3.0 SP0 langpack standalone.

And if you're going to use SNMSynth 3.0 SP2 installers under some localized XP (and maybe 2003, this has to be checked) and you want to get freed of win/ms update prompting to install 3.0 SP0 standalone language KB928416, I recommend you to use the method described in the "Obtain a Clean or Customized DataStore.edb File" section of this guide.

EDIT: I recommend to use the latests version the script that fixes this issue.

At least until MS fix all this.[/b]

Thx 4 your help fenyo.
Anymore ideas?

No, it is I who should thank you!

BTW, your summary is good.

And i've written a mail to the hungarian M$ group about this problem.

strel, thank you very much for such a great topic!!! CMD and BAT scripts are my favourites when it comes to simplicity of install and complexity of the processes wrapped into just a few bits

But I have to admit that the synthesis of several .NET packs was NOT that simple for me at a first glance into the .INI file.

1- I'm a bit confused with batch instructions since my only experience with .NET is version 2.0 installed manually on my XP SP3 to use nLite. Could you please explain me the process in more detail, therefore?



QUESTION 1: When you say "specifically", does that mean I need only the above-listed 2 (two) hotfixes/SP or .MSP files either?

2- I have downloaded this file: .NET 2.0 SP1 package (NetFx20SP1_x86.exe). But later in your post I found that:



QUESTION 2: Which one of "dotnetfx35.exe" should I download, if I want to make a full .NET pack with v1.1, 2.0, 3.0 & 3.5 with ALL hotfixes and updates?!? I assume that I cannot keep both "dotnetfx35.exe" files in the same folder since they contain identical names and, therefore, I need only one of them. This assumption leads to another question ->
QUESTION 3: If .NET 3.5 SP1 full redistributable contains .NET 2.0 SP2 (which is only ~9Mb compared to .NET 2.0 SP1 (NetFx20SP1_x86.exe) weighing almost ~24Mb), does that mean that I don't need .NET 2.0 SP1 anymore? What I understand from "SPx" is that it is the service pack only but NOT the full .NET pack v2.0 plus specific service pack. Am I right?!?

3- The following is an excerpt from my edited "_SNMsynth.ini" in the first run:



In this configuration I've managed to get rid of the error message I encountered first by running "SNMsynth.cmd" (which prompted with "choose what file is .NET 2.0 SP# going to be processed from"). However, I could only integrate .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0 together.

Then (after reading your notes in .INI file), I've deleted the compiled file (DNFxxx.exe) from the OUT folder and restarted CMD with INI file re-configured as follows:



QUESTION 4: Is this the right configuration to get a FULL .NET pack with all updates and hotfixes for XP SP3? I know, it depends on files I have put into the Work Folder. So, here is the list in alphabetical order:



QUESTION 5 (Final): I also assume there is no way to make a full switchless installer in the first run only. If true, how many runs are required (can you post your .INI configurations for such specific runs in respective order)?!?

Thank you very much for your patience and support!!!

Rustam

I've got to review the guide, you're not the first to say it to me.

A1: This means the script can handle updates of this types for 1.1, specifically of the types MS make available to us for 1.1 nowadays, all are in the list.

A2 & A3: There's no SPs standalone, in every case it is the complete framework updated to that SP#. The script only admits one dotnetfx35.exe. Choose your update condition. If you use NetFx20SP1_x86.exe and any dotnetfx35.exe , you have to choose which of the 2.0 SP# versions contained in these packets you are going to process, the script cannot be fed with two different steps (SP#) of the same framework #.# , even not with the same step (SP#) of the same framework #.# from 2 different files.

A4: To get FULL merged installer, apart of feeding the process with the correct frameworks you want (this is matching correct packets in the work folder with the settings in .ini file that triggers the process of the frameworks contained in it that you want), you have to set MERGE_FRAMEWORKS=full in the .ini file. Configuring the setting this way only build the full installer you want if you fed the process correctly, if not the merged installer would be partial only.
In your list you repeat:
NDP20SP2-KB958481-x86.exe
NDP20SP2-KB958481-x86.exe ----> You need NDP30SP2-KB958483-x86.exe

and:
dotnetfx35.exe (231Mb)
...
NetFx20SP1_x86.exe ---->Last version of 2.0 is 2.0 SP2 contained in dotnetfx35 (231 MB). You can delete this file or empty PROCESS_DNF2 not to feed the process with it.

The script deletes automatically files generated in an incomplete or wrong, building process.

A5: You can make full single switchless installer in one run. Another uncommon results like merged 1.1+2.0 + merged 3.0+3.5 needs 2 runs. Don't know of any combination requiring 3 runs.

Is that Azerbajan, isn't it? Good luck.

Check it out [for XP (x64)]
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6419
works very well

Updated.
Enjoy.

@strel: Thanks for this great tool

But I have a problem. After installing the complete package wsus still want´s to install kb932471, but can´t do this (error). This patch should be included in the latest 3.5er SP-releases. Anyone knows how to fix this?

Can you give me details?
- Your SNMsynth.ini settigns.
- The merged installer filename you get.
- What windows version are you installing on and language?
- What files did you put in the work folder?
- What method did you use to install?

You're updating through WSUS, is there any chance you could try to update from windows/ms update through the internet to validate results? Ask your netadmin in case it's not you.

From MSDN forums, it's very explanatory with the condition:
FAILURE: Update for .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB932471)

Aaron Stebner points one possible cause, but this was posted one year before the last one in the previous link:
.NET Framework 3.0 hotfix (KB932471) will fail to install if .NET Framework 3.5 beta 2 is installed

Here is offered a possible workaround:
Dot Net 3 SP1 & KB932471 problem - Makave234

Tell us your experiencies with this, please.

I've received a reply from Microsoft Hungary Ltd, they told me they forwarded my problem to their center.

Good news for hungarian speakers. Thank U.

FYI, everything appeared to go smoothly, when I used the latest (20090107) script to create a passive, merged installer for .NET 1.1 and 2.0 SP1 + all hotfixes, and then applied that at T-13 with HFSLIP to create a fresh Windows 2000 installation.

Updated again.

Now you can build nlite add-ons, and the process has been simplified even more, but the guide is even longer.

njoy!


2 Inki
Thx for your feedback.

Thanks strel!!!
The addon created by the last update works perfect to me.

0d

Same issue on Dutch XP SP3 using dutch language pack. It seems like Microsoft Update site doesn't properly detect .NET 3.0 SP2 language pack, although it's installed. You don't want to install the update from the site and fortunately it's not possible to mess up the system. Microsoft probably fixes this within a few months.
Note I use WiMakCab to compress the Administrative Install Point back to an MSI. Although size is a few MB's larger on install you save time not having to extract the installer first.

Thx Acheron.

Are there discrepancies with install displayed sizes among admin install and normal install too?
I don't see a great issue with the unzipping times, and I'm using old PCs. Though more quickly, .cab files have to be extracted too. I think size is more important.
Is your insterest in GPO installing?

theres update kb928416 showing up after installation. made 3.5SP1 only with russian LPs. when i try to install it from windows update, it refuses to install. is it possible to intergate it somehow?

mickmack, probably the same issue as that in post post #59 for hungarian language, isn't it?
Is there discrepancy among install sizes of 3.0 sp2 language pack installed normally or from SNMsynth installers too, as described in that post?

yup, the same. i just added regtweak to not show this update



the problem is that it doesnt install on .NET 3.0 SP1. only to pure 3.0 without SP1

Great stuff: all works so fine for me at the first shot, many thanks!

(My first post here: hi, everyone!)

Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 is out...


Cheers

Excuse my bad English, my native language Russian.
I have created installer with following options:

In file DNF11ru20SP2ru30SP2ru35SP1ru.exe there are files: Dnf.reg and Install.cmd. In file Install.cmd it is had:

Questions:
1 That will be with file Dnf.reg in an archive root if it is modified by a script even before start?
2 What for file Dnf.reg is started twice?
3 In folder Dnf35 there are all language files (setupres.ÕÕÕÕ.dll, WapRes.ÕÕÕÕ.dll, locdata.ÕÕÕÕ.ini, eula.ÕÕÕÕ.rtf), to me are necessary only with ÕÕÕÕ=1049. Whether It is possible to remove the others?

Thanks.

и ты тут Гора...

Thx guys.
I'm going to review all this.

2 mickmack
If I understood you right, it happens to you under russian XP with 3.0 SP1 ru, is that correct?

2 gora
A1: I don't understand you completely. Can you reformulate your question?
A2: Nothing. I'm going to fix it.
A3: I'm going to remove them.

2 all
I'm interested in confirming whether update kb928416 keeps showing in windows/ms update after installing, from SNMsynth installer, 3.0 SP1 or SP2 italian, turkish, chinese simplified or other languages whose dotnetfx35langpack_x86*.exe structure is the same as described in post #41 for hungarian langpack, when installed on Win XP/2003 of the same language, as it seems it's happening; or not.

Does anybody help me?

Before start, file Dnf.reg being in 7z sfx archive (DNF11ru20SP2ru30SP2ru35SP1ru.exe) has the following maintenance:

After performance of these lines of a script

in it there will be a following:It is correct a .reg file?

Hi, everyone!
Just for better clarity, my previous whistle emoticon [] meant: << please, strel, existing already the support for "NetFx20SP1_x86.exe", could you now add also the support for "NetFx20SP2_x86.exe" just released (1/16/2009) from Microsoft? >>
Thank you, at any case!



online

yup. but ive made dutch installer, and it happens there as well. thus, there might be a problem with language packs only.

So you have tried 3.0 SP1 dutch installed onto russian XP, correct? Does it work your registry workaround, adapted to dutch language parameters, removing kb928416 win/ms update tip?

it happens to the dutch installer in dutch windows, and same goes to russian installer in russian windows.
registry workaround works well for any language of windows or .NET

Under XP Portuguese Brazilian windows/ms update list KB928416 and KB829019 in Optional Updates.
In Add/Remove Programs .NET Framework 3.0 Service Pack 2 language Pack - PTB have 3,83 mb.
I'm using your last version of SNMsynth.

0d

Hi to all!

This is a really fantastic work... but I'm getting a bit confused!!!

Please, can anyone write a STEP BY STEP GUIDE about this topic that make me possible to integrate all .NET FRAMEWORKS, including all respective languages pack and actual updates) with the SVCPACK.INF and the FIRST LOGON methods?

Thanks in advance.

I need something like that hosted (you can update it somewhere and post about it in the nLite add-on forum), but to integrate with nLite. I need ATi/AMD CCC usable after the XP installation. Can't use the cript since I'm on Vista :/

Please, install on your current machine all (supported) Framework versions you want to deploy.

Create a working folder ("Framework", for example) in the root of your system drive.

Copy all full executables you've used in your previous installation in your working folder and also extract "SNMsynth.zip" and "7za464.zip" into it.

Run "SNMsynth.cmd": the default settings will merge your Framework versions in a single executable (really in a RAR archive that you can use in nLite-d installs as Add-on or, extracting the executable, within Windows or in nLite-d installs running it At First Log-on).

If nLite-d as Add-on then a couple of errors appear (3.5 related) in Event Viewer (it seems they imply no issues), if running at first log-on instead (or wiyhin Windows) then the two errors will disappear.

If you need 1.1 version and related updates too then in order to avoid a (double) restart the script will automatically install it at the process ending.

I've successfully merged "Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1" ("dotnetfx35.exe" - 231 MB - including 2.0 SP1, 3.0 SP1 and 3.5 SP1) plus its "Family Update" ("NDP20SP2-KB958481-x86.exe", "NDP30SP2-KB958483-x86.exe" and "NDP35SP1-KB958484-x86.exe" - that's 2.0 SP2, 3.0 SP2 and 3.5 SP1 update) in a single executable (50,8 MB) that perfectly and silently work in a nLite-d install at first log-on (I do not need Language Pack then I do not know about it but I'm sure that somebody knows how to).

Please note that if you install also the latest "DirectX End-User Runtime" in a your possibly nLite-d install then DirectX would be installed after .NET Framework in order to correctly install "DirectX for Managed Code" components.

BTW1: really in the first post you can read also about the stated support for 2.0 SP1 ("NetFx20SP1_x86.exe"), but IMO I think that it probably is useless [and then also (my previously suggested) 2.0 SP2 ("NetFx20SP2_x86.exe") support would be so] considering that the support for .NET Framework 2.0 is not (yet?) available...

BTW2: I was trying an app (NovaShield - "NovaShield_xp_release_2_5_8.exe") that at any case requests Framework 2.0 SP1 although the SP1 would must be already correctly installed, but probably that is an isolated issue that specific program-related.

It's correct.
The .reg file is modified on the fly while installing to get the parameters it lacks.

There are links in the guide referring to this methods of installing. What exactly is your problem?

2 strel
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 (x86) LangPack

Hey guys, MS released another .NET update (KB951847). Its 248MB for x86 XP version. Has anyone tried using the Silent .NET Maker with it yet?

Is there a link to that?

Hi all,
about this update

That is updating .NET 3.5 redistributable with .NET 3.5 SP1.

It's simple, use SP1, and you will not have this update listed.

We work with .NET 3.5 SP1 full redistributable and your .net Maker. Update required for 2 days. All the hotfixs listed here are present; no update required 3 days ago.
Some people solve this problem I quote a changelog :

29/01/09:Added KB959209 without applying msp's to msi's, so windows update could detect it.
27/12/08:Added KB959209.

When I check Microsoft Update and install update : 16.80 Mo of components are necessary; like kb959209 total size (3 files). But these 3 files are in folder with .net maker ..

I don't have more information about that for the moment. But anything happened.

Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847) x86

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/sit...aspx?q=KB951847

2 ferk
Thx. I got confused with the documentation.

2 geromichi
I see. Versions are the same. If you don't have all single 3.5 SP1 redist frameworks installed, update prompts you to download the whole 248 MB packet including .NET 3.5 SP1 redist and if you have installed a langpack other than the one correponding the language of system (except for english system) it includes langpack too.