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ajua
Picking up where Shark007 left, i wrote a little tutorial to modify the original msi installer. A spanish version is also available.

This works with the latest version: 14.0.8064.0206.

You can get the direct links to download the full Windows Live Installer in different languages here.

The tutorial is in RTF format and the ZIP file includes two tables that you need to import using Orca or other authoring apps.

Update: The tutorial now includes instructions to prevent WLM from not showing an uninstall entry.

I have made switchless installers for English and Spanish, and the required components. You can use them to replace your patched files as well, you just need to extract the Messenger installer with 7-Zip or WinRAR to a folder and replace the files.

Note: If you want to use my switchless installers, make sure you install WLM9 Requisites Switchless as well. Otherwise, it won't work.

You can download them here.

Note: SVCPACK compatibility is not tested.
Shark007
elajua, thank you very much for taking on yet another one of my projects.

As many msfn users already know, my health isnt the greatest
and keeping up on the assistance I offer on these forums is increasingly difficult for me.

Thanks to elajua, a new, updated Messenger tutorial is available to all msfn users. thumbup.gif


shark
Inferi0r
Thanks for the share.
Waleed
Thanx alot
ajua
Modified the original post to include an updated version of the tutorial and added links to my switchless installers for Messenger (English and Spanish) and the required components.
ajua
Modified some links so people can get the new offline installers for WLM9 RC 14.0.8050.1202.

The switchless installers also has been updated.
beats
Thank you Elajua, for taking Shark's tutorial over. smile.gif
ajua
No problem.

Happy New Year!
ScOOt3r
Great job alajua this worked like a charm, nice job.

Happy New Year!


ScOOt3r
Raoul90
This doesnt seem to work.

I installed the final today (Dutch language finally).

But the .cache map doesnt exist
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Windows Live, that map is made by the installer but it does not put anything in there.
ajua
QUOTE (Raoul90 @ Jan 9 2009, 05:17 PM) *
This doesnt seem to work.

I installed the final today (Dutch language finally).

But the .cache map doesnt exist
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Windows Live, that map is made by the installer but it does not put anything in there.

Just make sure to uncheck the box that hides system files in folder options in Windows Explorer. Also, you need to uncheck the one that says Show hidden files and folders.

I will update the tutorial, links to the full installers and a new set of switchless installers will be done tomorrow.
biatche
Thanks for this, I haven't tested but I'm waiting for the final version so that I can format pc all at once smile.gif.. may i ask if it install those crap toolbars and unnecessary stuff? or just the program alone?
cloferba
please..upload the final version of wlm9 in spanish please...

with any unnecessary stuff

great work! biggrin.gif
ajua
QUOTE (biatche @ Jan 10 2009, 01:58 AM) *
Thanks for this, I haven't tested but I'm waiting for the final version so that I can format pc all at once smile.gif.. may i ask if it install those crap toolbars and unnecessary stuff? or just the program alone?

Just the program and the required components. NO toolbars.
ajua
QUOTE (cloferba @ Jan 10 2009, 10:36 AM) *
please..upload the final version of wlm9 in spanish please...

with any unnecessary stuff

great work! biggrin.gif

Will upload them tomorrow. I have some things to do today and i couldn't find any time.
simpleman
would be fantastic, if you could make a switchless
installer for the german version!

... many thx for your great work
Raoul90
QUOTE (elajua @ Jan 10 2009, 04:47 AM) *
QUOTE (Raoul90 @ Jan 9 2009, 05:17 PM) *
This doesnt seem to work.

I installed the final today (Dutch language finally).

But the .cache map doesnt exist
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Windows Live, that map is made by the installer but it does not put anything in there.

Just make sure to uncheck the box that hides system files in folder options in Windows Explorer. Also, you need to uncheck the one that says Show hidden files and folders.

I will update the tutorial, links to the full installers and a new set of switchless installers will be done tomorrow.


I have that option on show, but i cant see the .cache folder tho, i will install Windows Live Messenger on other pc, to see if the folder is tehre.


edit:
installed on two other pc's, both dont have the .cache folder.
I just want Windows Live Messenger en Windows Live Mail. smile.gif
cloferba
i´ve been waiting final spanish version since yesterday :S
ajua
QUOTE (cloferba @ Jan 12 2009, 05:16 PM) *
i´ve been waiting final spanish version since yesterday :S

The switchless installer can be downloaded now.

They are the same as the RC, which stood as final version.
ZEUS__
may you upload turkish release?
Raoul90
I cant find this .cache folder anywhere.

I installed the Dutch version on 3 diferent pc's, all dont have the .cache map (system files are not hidden).
ajua
QUOTE (ZEUS__ @ Jan 13 2009, 07:41 AM) *
may you upload turkish release?

Sorry, but i don't have much time. You can follow the instructions in my tutorial to make it in your own language.
ajua
QUOTE (Raoul90 @ Jan 13 2009, 10:17 AM) *
I cant find this .cache folder anywhere.

I installed the Dutch version on 3 diferent pc's, all dont have the .cache map (system files are not hidden).

I will try to look for the files in my laptop, but tomorrow.

Meanwhile, try looking for the Wave RC (Released in december). That installer surely extracts the files to that .cache folder.
cloferba
i get this error after install..(and i try to login)




i post the spanish dialog because the author of this post understand spanish language too smile.gif

edit: there is no uninstaller!, no way to delete and reinstall wlm!!!

edit2: i installed "WLM9 Requisites Switchless" and now it works, i hope to have a full working mwl in a few mb´s, but i see its not possible.. (or can it be elajua?)

6 more megabytes sad.gif

(see the uninstaller plz)
ZEUS__
QUOTE (elajua @ Jan 14 2009, 05:20 AM) *
QUOTE (ZEUS__ @ Jan 13 2009, 07:41 AM) *
may you upload turkish release?

Sorry, but i don't have much time. You can follow the instructions in my tutorial to make it in your own language.


@elajua.sorry for confused, I mean I couldn't find turkish full installer anywhere to play with your instructtions..
http://www.ajuaonline.com/2008/10/10/windo...ull-installers/
Raoul90
Downloaded the full installer @ http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/01/07/d...-for-windows-7/

Will try it on an other pc, see if i get the .cache folder.

edit:
Also found dutch and english messenger.msi + Contacts.msi @ microsoft:
EN:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/F...hip-neutral.cab
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/F...ger-ship-en.cab
NL:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/E...hip-neutral.cab
http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/E...ger-ship-nl.cab

But i also want the Windows Live Mail part, so i need to find that installer.
ZEUS__
@Raoul90,
thanks for the link..

I'm newbie on this..I read the tutorial.doc but I do't understand on which table I will create these rows?
QUOTE
The following rows needs to be created because they don't exist.

Property Value
ADDBHO No-AddBHO
ADDLINKS AddLinks
SETHOMEPAGE No-SetMyHomePage
ALLOWRHAPSODY No-AllowRhapsody


on property table?
X-FoRcE
QUOTE (ZEUS__ @ Jan 15 2009, 08:38 PM) *
@Raoul90,
thanks for the link..

I'm newbie on this..I read the tutorial.doc but I do't understand on which table I will create these rows?
QUOTE
The following rows needs to be created because they don't exist.

Property Value
ADDBHO No-AddBHO
ADDLINKS AddLinks
SETHOMEPAGE No-SetMyHomePage
ALLOWRHAPSODY No-AllowRhapsody


on property table?


Yes. Property Table.

Evet, Property Tablosuna ekleyeceksin bahsedilenleri.
spoirier
I discovered that on a Windows XP if you remove the old Windows Messenger that came with the OS using:

RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\inf\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

after running 'WLM9 Switchless.exe' you will get an error saying that it is looking for 'wlm.msi' in the temp directory. I have found that if you run the command to remove the old version first then run 'WLM9 Switchless.exe' you will not get the error.

elajua:
Thanks for the great work you are doing to make our lives easier! thumbup.gif
ajua
QUOTE (cloferba @ Jan 14 2009, 05:04 PM) *
i installed "WLM9 Requisites Switchless" and now it works, i hope to have a full working wlm in a few mb´s, but i see its not possible.. (or can it be elajua?)

6 more megabytes sad.gif

(see the uninstaller plz)

I updated the main post to make sure everyone sees that Requisites Switchless needs to be installed as well.

Sadly, there is no way to slim down the size of WLM and its requisites.

On my main computer, i have an uninstall entry, but i will look into this on other computers as soon as i find some time.
ajua
QUOTE (ZEUS__ @ Jan 14 2009, 08:54 PM) *
sorry for confused, I mean I couldn't find turkish full installer anywhere to play with your instructtions..
http://www.ajuaonline.com/2008/10/10/windo...ull-installers/

You were seeing an old post. See the one i made about the Final version for instructions on how to get the full installer in your language.
Link

QUOTE (ZEUS__ @ Jan 15 2009, 12:38 PM) *
I'm newbie on this..I read the tutorial.doc but I do't understand on which table I will create these rows?
QUOTE
The following rows needs to be created because they don't exist.

Property Value
ADDBHO No-AddBHO
ADDLINKS AddLinks
SETHOMEPAGE No-SetMyHomePage
ALLOWRHAPSODY No-AllowRhapsody


on property table?

Yes, they are to be created in the property table:
"The following rows needs to be created in the Property table because they don’t exist."
ajua
QUOTE (Raoul90 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:40 AM) *
Downloaded the full installer @ http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/01/07/d...-for-windows-7/

Will try it on an other pc, see if i get the .cache folder.

edit:
Also found dutch and english messenger.msi + Contacts.msi @ microsoft:
EN:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/F...hip-neutral.cab
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/F...ger-ship-en.cab
NL:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/E...hip-neutral.cab
http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/E...ger-ship-nl.cab

But i also want the Windows Live Mail part, so i need to find that installer.

I made tests and you will need more components. If some components are missing, you will get some login errors, such as the one another user posted earlier in this thread.

Are you using the full installer in your language? or the web setup? If so, use the full installer instead.
QUOTE (spoirier @ Jan 15 2009, 03:15 PM) *
I discovered that on a Windows XP if you remove the old Windows Messenger that came with the OS using:

RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\inf\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

after running 'WLM9 Switchless.exe' you will get an error saying that it is looking for 'wlm.msi' in the temp directory. I have found that if you run the command to remove the old version first then run 'WLM9 Switchless.exe' you will not get the error.

elajua:
Thanks for the great work you are doing to make our lives easier! thumbup.gif

Thanks for the info on removing the old messenger.
spoirier
When I install 'WLM9 Requisites Switchless' it adds 'Windows Live Call Beta' to the Program Files menu. Is it really a beta or the release version?
cloferba
edit: thanks
mickmack
http://rapidshare.de/files/41689734/MSN9.exe.html

French version of final Messenger 2009.
no adverstising, components included. not to install from SVCPACK. (when installinf from svcpack, it is asking for msi file form which it has been installed)
ajua
QUOTE (spoirier @ Jan 15 2009, 07:47 PM) *
When I install 'WLM9 Requisites Switchless' it adds 'Windows Live Call Beta' to the Program Files menu. Is it really a beta or the release version?

The full installer of Wave 3 Final didn't update my Windows Live Call, so i suppose it is still in Beta.

However, as soon as i reformat my laptop i will make a clean install of that installer to see if there is any change to Windows Live Call when installing from scratch.
mickmack
http://rapidshare.de/files/42028360/MSN9FR.exe.html

French version of final Messenger 2009.
no adverstising, components included. compatible with SVCPACK.

update

1. Added SVCPACK compatibility (now it caches the files locally by adding the line to 7zip
InstallPath="%COMMONPROGRAMFILES%\\Windows Live\\cache"
2. smaller size by using administrative point on all installers, not only messenger (19MB instead of 24mb).
3. patched files to remove advertising, and some tweaks.


edit:
by the way. in error reporting installer i see the files named DWINTL20.DLL for different languages. if someone knows is it possible to leave just files for needed languages? the installer size is getting couple of mbs smaller. there are also many same files on different installers, is it possible to optimize them in 7zip installer? im gonna try to make installer size smaller but if someone has knowlenge, let me know.

edit2:
by deleting not needed language files belonging to error reporting, size of the installer is getting smaller to 200kb.
ajua
You will need to find which files are needed for different languages.

By making a different "requisites" installer, one can install it regardless of the language of WLM.
Raoul90
I still dont get any .cache folder so how i should get it installed.

I want Windows Live Messenger and Windows Live Mail Desktop. In Dutch.

Plz help. smile.gif
mickmack
Raoul: this is MSN9NL. SVCPACK compatible, no advertising, all components included.

http://rapidshare.de/files/42535279/MSN9NL.exe.html

to see cache folder you have to "beveiligte systembestanded tonen" and "verborgen bestanded tonen"
Raoul90
QUOTE (mickmack @ Jan 19 2009, 05:54 PM) *
Raoul: this is MSN9NL. SVCPACK compatible, no advertising, all components included.

http://rapidshare.de/files/42535279/MSN9NL.exe.html

to see cache folder you have to "beveiligte systembestanded tonen" and "verborgen bestanded tonen"


In a weird way the .cache directory popped up a few minutes ago, i dont get it.
But thanks for making the installer.
Benners also sended me a tool in a PM, will check that out also.
ajua
The .cache folder for the final installer is located in Common Files\Windows Live not Program Files\Windows Live

I also updated my switchless installers. The requisites includes the new Windows Live Call, which is not in Beta anymore.

The WLM9 installers only have changed to reflect a new text string when extracting the files.
mickmack
by the way elajua: did you manage to get uninstaller for WLM to show up in software?
ajua
QUOTE (mickmack @ Jan 20 2009, 07:00 AM) *
by the way elajua: did you manage to get uninstaller for WLM to show up in software?

I just tried in three unattended installations and effectively, the uninstall entry is missing. I don't know why is this happening, though.

I don't find this much important, but it is nice to solve all wrinkles.
benners
QUOTE (elajua @ Jan 21 2009, 07:31 AM) *
QUOTE (mickmack @ Jan 20 2009, 07:00 AM) *
by the way elajua: did you manage to get uninstaller for WLM to show up in software?

I just tried in three unattended installations and effectively, the uninstall entry is missing. I don't know why is this happening, though.

I don't find this much important, but it is nice to solve all wrinkles.


The way I did it was to delete the ARPSYSTEMCOMPONENT property in the Property table
cloferba
yes...i remember spanish version doesnt come with uninstaller..

can somebody make a patch?
benners
QUOTE (cloferba @ Jan 21 2009, 11:39 AM) *
yes...i remember spanish version doesnt come with uninstaller..

can somebody make a patch?


You can try yourself if you have the time here
ajua
Indeed, ARPSYSTEMCOMPONENT prevents WLM9 to show an entry to uninstall it.

I will modify the tutorial and switchless installers to include this modification.
cengizhan
welcome.gif Hi

I have done verything according to your tutorial on a computer where the old version was removed. But everytime i start msn a dialog pops up asking for messenger.msi. no.gif Clicking cancel closes popup and then msn opens. How can i remove that popup ? The version i have tried is turkish and final 2009.
Raoul90
QUOTE (cengizhan @ Feb 7 2009, 12:48 PM) *
welcome.gif Hi

I have done verything according to your tutorial on a computer where the old version was removed. But everytime i start msn a dialog pops up asking for messenger.msi. no.gif Clicking cancel closes popup and then msn opens. How can i remove that popup ? The version i have tried is turkish and final 2009.


Use this http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=128918
Works perfectly.




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